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Hey guys,
Yeah, I know how the title sounds. Disclaimer: I am not talking about landing "That One Special Girl" detailed in Chase's Can't Stop Thinking About Her? Here's Why You Need To Meet More Girls when you are new to improving yourself with women and can't help but chase after her.
Rather, I am talking about persisting with a girl over time and doing whatever it takes to get her, all while knowing you could replace her with more attractive, healthier women at a whim.
Before I tried Chase's method for texting girls that you hadn't been in touch with for over a year, I had a pretty clear cut idea of when things were truly "over" with a girl. I used to think that after a certain amount of failure and screwing up, a future with a certain girl was out of the cards, and it was in your best interest to forget all about her and keep meeting more women that you hadn't blown things with. I got to the point where if it didn't happen on the first date, I'd forget about a girl unless she made things easy (like coming straight over), or I was doing date compression and didn't plan on getting together right away.
However, delving through my contacts and hitting up some old flames using reconnect texts made me realize that it wasn't over with these girls. Of all the girls I hit up, around 75% of them responded, and as of right now about 60% I have either set a date with, been on a date with, or bedded. Every girl I hit up I had screwed things up with in the past, whether it had been attainability, missing escalation windows, or chasing (All of these girls were from back in HS, and some from before I discovered GC). Some of these girls I had respond, fall off the map soon after, and then reengage me after I savvily persisted using call/text splitting with them without resorting to chasing.
(The least likely to respond were girls I had hooked up with without building much connection)
I heavily consulted Chase's Ultimate Guide To Getting A Girl Back and one of his pieces on auto-rejection (auto-rejection was a big one for me). My game is a lot tighter than it was in HS. I don't really chase anymore, in all facets of my game. I am always leading. I punish and reward far better. I am also smoother, more social and outgoing, more dominant, and have a great physique and cool hair. My better understanding along with better fundamentals has allowed me to do things I once couldn't, such as hitting escalation windows better, bypassing LMR, or persisting with respect to my time rather than becoming another guy chasing after her.
My thought now is that, so long as you haven't done anything too extreme, and maybe even then, you can land any girl who has ever been attracted to you. Of course, depending on where you went wrong, this can be much harder than just going out and meeting new women. It also helps if she was very attracted to you, and not just meh.
The two biggest reasons I can see for doing this are:
1. When you have invested a lot in a girl previously and want to "make it right", whether it's to prove something to yourself, or you're a glutton for challenges, OR
2. As an alternative and supplemental way of filling the pipeline
Things That Have Worked For Me
1. Time- time away from each other "resets things" to some extent. It also lets you meet more women and level yourself up. So far I have only tried things with girls I hadn't talked to in over a year, so couldn't tell you how effective a 6 week break is
2. Pacing Her Reality/Rebuilding Bridges- my formula for auto-rejection. Credit of course goes to Chase (and I think he got it from Vin DiCarlo). I basically level with a girl, explaining that I realize she probably thinks I am x, and she is justified for thinking that, but the reality is I am actually y and think she is awesome, and hope we can repair things. Works great in person, but can work over the phone/while texting too. Though you do have to get her to listen to you to begin with, which brings us to...
3. Get Her To Hear You Out- I've found being warm, excited, though not coming across as needy or desperate, works well. Can go into a lot of detail if requested but this post is already long enough. Can be done over the phone or in person. She may be cold to you at first, but you remain unfazed and unaffected, though still aware, and she will come to your level after you pace her reality and rebuild attainability, if not before.
4. Advanced Closing Ability- knowing how to build to a date request, when to propose it, and setting up an easy, effective date helps you get to the point and enter the date with solid footing
5. Escalating Properly- bypassing her reservations and out framing her
6. Persistence- the key to my idea. If you persist (not chase like a puppy dog) with a girl over a long enough period, coupled with all the other techniques listed (especially 1 and 7), you should be able to get her
7. Preselection- best way I know to turn a girl from off to on, though outside of social media (which I don't use), chance meetings in social settings (not reliable), or creepily going where you know a girl will be and trying to get her to see you with beautiful women (which is chasing imo, especially when you haven't seen her in a year), may not be an option
The question is how far to take it. Say you have a girl you blew it with, but still want. Say you also are a very capable romancer and seducer. Can you have any girl you want that you once had a shot with, so long as you persist long enough WITHOUT CHASING? Can things ever get too far gone to make something happen?
Best,
Ambiance
Yeah, I know how the title sounds. Disclaimer: I am not talking about landing "That One Special Girl" detailed in Chase's Can't Stop Thinking About Her? Here's Why You Need To Meet More Girls when you are new to improving yourself with women and can't help but chase after her.
Rather, I am talking about persisting with a girl over time and doing whatever it takes to get her, all while knowing you could replace her with more attractive, healthier women at a whim.
Before I tried Chase's method for texting girls that you hadn't been in touch with for over a year, I had a pretty clear cut idea of when things were truly "over" with a girl. I used to think that after a certain amount of failure and screwing up, a future with a certain girl was out of the cards, and it was in your best interest to forget all about her and keep meeting more women that you hadn't blown things with. I got to the point where if it didn't happen on the first date, I'd forget about a girl unless she made things easy (like coming straight over), or I was doing date compression and didn't plan on getting together right away.
However, delving through my contacts and hitting up some old flames using reconnect texts made me realize that it wasn't over with these girls. Of all the girls I hit up, around 75% of them responded, and as of right now about 60% I have either set a date with, been on a date with, or bedded. Every girl I hit up I had screwed things up with in the past, whether it had been attainability, missing escalation windows, or chasing (All of these girls were from back in HS, and some from before I discovered GC). Some of these girls I had respond, fall off the map soon after, and then reengage me after I savvily persisted using call/text splitting with them without resorting to chasing.
(The least likely to respond were girls I had hooked up with without building much connection)
I heavily consulted Chase's Ultimate Guide To Getting A Girl Back and one of his pieces on auto-rejection (auto-rejection was a big one for me). My game is a lot tighter than it was in HS. I don't really chase anymore, in all facets of my game. I am always leading. I punish and reward far better. I am also smoother, more social and outgoing, more dominant, and have a great physique and cool hair. My better understanding along with better fundamentals has allowed me to do things I once couldn't, such as hitting escalation windows better, bypassing LMR, or persisting with respect to my time rather than becoming another guy chasing after her.
My thought now is that, so long as you haven't done anything too extreme, and maybe even then, you can land any girl who has ever been attracted to you. Of course, depending on where you went wrong, this can be much harder than just going out and meeting new women. It also helps if she was very attracted to you, and not just meh.
The two biggest reasons I can see for doing this are:
1. When you have invested a lot in a girl previously and want to "make it right", whether it's to prove something to yourself, or you're a glutton for challenges, OR
2. As an alternative and supplemental way of filling the pipeline
Things That Have Worked For Me
1. Time- time away from each other "resets things" to some extent. It also lets you meet more women and level yourself up. So far I have only tried things with girls I hadn't talked to in over a year, so couldn't tell you how effective a 6 week break is
2. Pacing Her Reality/Rebuilding Bridges- my formula for auto-rejection. Credit of course goes to Chase (and I think he got it from Vin DiCarlo). I basically level with a girl, explaining that I realize she probably thinks I am x, and she is justified for thinking that, but the reality is I am actually y and think she is awesome, and hope we can repair things. Works great in person, but can work over the phone/while texting too. Though you do have to get her to listen to you to begin with, which brings us to...
3. Get Her To Hear You Out- I've found being warm, excited, though not coming across as needy or desperate, works well. Can go into a lot of detail if requested but this post is already long enough. Can be done over the phone or in person. She may be cold to you at first, but you remain unfazed and unaffected, though still aware, and she will come to your level after you pace her reality and rebuild attainability, if not before.
4. Advanced Closing Ability- knowing how to build to a date request, when to propose it, and setting up an easy, effective date helps you get to the point and enter the date with solid footing
5. Escalating Properly- bypassing her reservations and out framing her
6. Persistence- the key to my idea. If you persist (not chase like a puppy dog) with a girl over a long enough period, coupled with all the other techniques listed (especially 1 and 7), you should be able to get her
7. Preselection- best way I know to turn a girl from off to on, though outside of social media (which I don't use), chance meetings in social settings (not reliable), or creepily going where you know a girl will be and trying to get her to see you with beautiful women (which is chasing imo, especially when you haven't seen her in a year), may not be an option
The question is how far to take it. Say you have a girl you blew it with, but still want. Say you also are a very capable romancer and seducer. Can you have any girl you want that you once had a shot with, so long as you persist long enough WITHOUT CHASING? Can things ever get too far gone to make something happen?
Best,
Ambiance
