FR Girl arrives to the date super drunk! (Text Seduction ;))

[Calibration]

This is interesting, read till the end

I'm a bit excited tbh since I've always dreaded texting. This is a huge win for me since I got the girl to come on a date only through texting. Maybe I cracked the texting code? Thanks @Skills

I have a few questions at the end of the post.

Approach:
On Thursday afternoon while out for lunch from work, I saw this gorgeous looking chic in the food court. I saw her from a distance and then went to approach when she was in front of a stall and as I approached, looks like she didn't like that and went to another stall and this happened 4-5 times. Its funny that I followed her, everywhere. I was almost about to give up and then she stops in front of one of the stall and is facing the stall. I didn't want to approach from behind. So, waited until she turned around. As soon as she turned around, she looked at me and she smiled when she made eye contact and immediately looked away. I smiled and complimented on her eyes. It was super crowded but I was so attracted to her that I didn't care and I loudly and clearly said, "Did anyone tell you, you have stunning eyes?". People were looking at me and she blushed. I continued, "You have this very unique eyes" and showed her with my fingers. She had this "Fox eyes", so seductive.Then I spoke to her for probably 3-4 mins max and she was rushing. I made deep eye-contact and touched her shoulder at her neck, she put her head down. Took her number and left.

Texting:
There was a lot of texting in 3 days and this is the longest I've ever texted a girl and got her on a date. (Warning: Lot of texts)
I also built comfort over text which was actually pretty challenging but I think I did a good job without falling into friendzone this time @Will_V

Note: Swipe left/right on the screenshots to navigate through them

https://imgur.com/a/24IzVXv

Date:
I thought she was joking when she told me over text that she was drunk. I met her outside the restaurant and gave her a hug and she stinks of alcohol. I thought she'll be alright in time. She was suuuuper drunk that she was unable to speak even. We find corner stools and sit next to each other and she has droopy eyes. We talk some basic shit for maybe 10 mins about how our days were etc and in my mind I didn't know what to do with her since she was able to ask right questions but she is struggling to articulate. Then she says, she wants to go to the toilet. After a few mins, I went to the counter to ask the menu and I look behind to see her and she is running out of the restaurant. I went running after her and stopped her and asked what happened? She said her friend called her and she wants to go. I said ok that's fine and ask if she is alright and she says "Yes, my friend just called me and so I have to go". I say, Ok and I kept walking and she was walking behind me talking on the phone with her friend and laughing. I was very angry. After around 50 mtrs, I stop her and tell her to get off the phone, I wanted to talk to her for a minute. Then I say "Look its ok, if you are leaving and running away was not nice". I said that very firmly looking into her eyes. She tried gaslighting saying "What could I have done? I looked for you around and couldn't find you and I had to rush". I got very very angry but still held my composure and said "I was looking for the menu and you could've looked around for me and not run away without telling me. Don't ever do this again! This is the worst date I've ever had". She apologises saying "Sorry. You know I'm drunk". I looked at her for a few secs into her eyes and said "Take care!". She says "You too!" and I walk away. After 10 mins, she blocked me.

Questions:
1. Was there anything that I could've done better in texting? @Skills
2. Did I overreact?
3. Am I safe? Whenever things don't go well with girls, for some unknown reason I have irrational fear around FRA accusation or things similar. Is there something that I need to do?
4. I'm so glad I met her in public and its a lesson learnt to not invite girls home directly. Any thoughts on this?

Cheers guys for all your help!

 

[Boom_1982]

This is interesting, read till the end

I'm a bit excited tbh since I've always dreaded texting. This is a huge win for me since I got the girl to come on a date only through texting. Maybe I cracked the texting code? Thanks @Skills

I have a few questions at the end of the post.

Approach:
On Thursday afternoon while out for lunch from work, I saw this gorgeous looking chic in the food court. I saw her from a distance and then went to approach when she was in front of a stall and as I approached, looks like she didn't like that and went to another stall and this happened 4-5 times. Its funny that I followed her, everywhere. I was almost about to give up and then she stops in front of one of the stall and is facing the stall. I didn't want to approach from behind. So, waited until she turned around. As soon as she turned around, she looked at me and she smiled when she made eye contact and immediately looked away. I smiled and complimented on her eyes. It was super crowded but I was so attracted to her that I didn't care and I loudly and clearly said, "Did anyone tell you, you have stunning eyes?". People were looking at me and she blushed. I continued, "You have this very unique eyes" and showed her with my fingers. She had this "Fox eyes", so seductive.Then I spoke to her for probably 3-4 mins max and she was rushing. I made deep eye-contact and touched her shoulder at her neck, she put her head down. Took her number and left.

Texting:
There was a lot of texting in 3 days and this is the longest I've ever texted a girl and got her on a date. (Warning: Lot of texts)
I also built comfort over text which was actually pretty challenging but I think I did a good job without falling into friendzone this time @Will_V

Note: Swipe left/right on the screenshots to navigate through them

https://imgur.com/a/24IzVXv

Date:
I thought she was joking when she told me over text that she was drunk. I met her outside the restaurant and gave her a hug and she stinks of alcohol. I thought she'll be alright in time. She was suuuuper drunk that she was unable to speak even. We find corner stools and sit next to each other and she has droopy eyes. We talk some basic shit for maybe 10 mins about how our days were etc and in my mind I didn't know what to do with her since she was able to ask right questions but she is struggling to articulate. Then she says, she wants to go to the toilet. After a few mins, I went to the counter to ask the menu and I look behind to see her and she is running out of the restaurant. I went running after her and stopped her and asked what happened? She said her friend called her and she wants to go. I said ok that's fine and ask if she is alright and she says "Yes, my friend just called me and so I have to go". I say, Ok and I kept walking and she was walking behind me talking on the phone with her friend and laughing. I was very angry. After around 50 mtrs, I stop her and tell her to get off the phone, I wanted to talk to her for a minute. Then I say "Look its ok, if you are leaving and running away was not nice". I said that very firmly looking into her eyes. She tried gaslighting saying "What could I have done? I looked for you around and couldn't find you and I had to rush". I got very very angry but still held my composure and said "I was looking for the menu and you could've looked around for me and not run away without telling me. Don't ever do this again! This is the worst date I've ever had". She apologises saying "Sorry. You know I'm drunk". I looked at her for a few secs into her eyes and said "Take care!". She says "You too!" and I walk away. After 10 mins, she blocked me.

Questions:
1. Was there anything that I could've done better in texting? @Skills
2. Did I overreact?
3. Am I safe? Whenever things don't go well with girls, for some unknown reason I have irrational fear around FRA accusation or things similar. Is there something that I need to do?
4. I'm so glad I met her in public and its a lesson learnt to not invite girls home directly. Any thoughts on this?

Cheers guys for all your help!

Why the fuck did you follow her when she decided to leave? Why were you angry? It was her fault that she came drunk and left. You should have played it cool & given her space to come back to push for second date with strict terms on not drinking before date

You are suffering from scarcity complex and heavily oneitsed her to a point of no return. My suggestions are to start talking to more girls, don't take rejections personally and increase your coolness quotient. Remember it's always about her and not about you until your dick is in her pussy.

 

[Skills]

I never in my life had this happened and if did, i would have left

 

[Chase]

What a mess.

So, first off, yes, texting looks good, @Shawn.

This girl was almost certainly blacked out drunk, if she was so bad off she can't even articulate. You seem like you don't have much experience around drunk people. You could've let her go and she wouldn't have even remembered what happened. Then all you'd have had to say was, "Wow, that was a mess, you showed up, looked at the menu, went to the toilet, then disappeared. So I guess you didn't TECHNICALLY stand me up, lol!"

She'd have been apologizing, and you'd get to do the "Well now you get to make it up to me [date suggestion where she has to do / bring something to make back up]. Also, NO pregaming this time!"

For all you know she got plastered because she was too nervous about meeting you.

She's for sure going to remember you having her stop and fuming at her though. That won't be forgotten. And of course, probably creeped the stuffing out of her in the moment... no wonder she blocked you. This one's done.

When weird shit happens, you've gotta learn to shrug your shoulders and be like, "Well. That sure was weird. Guess I'm eating dinner myself then. Glad I picked a place that I like!"

I haven't had this happen, but I have had girls do weird flakes or other weird things on me, where I was just like, "Well, I dunno what that was about, but I'm just not going to reply and just forget all about her since she was the one being weird and obviously in the wrong." Then the next day the girl is apologizing and... usually it is just super, super easy to lay her after that.

You just take no action AT ALL, because she is the one who made the faux pas, so she is the one who has to fix it. Girls who do weird shit know they are doing weird shit, and if a guy is legitimately cool and doesn't get flustered by their weird shit they will often get super into him. (and if they don't and they just vanish, well, now you don't have to deal with their weird shit. So it's a win either way!)

Just think of it as a massive shit test:

If she acts weird, and you freak out, you fail.

Keep your cool, and you may hear from her later. Ideally, highly apologetic and much more compliant.

Chase

 

[Calibration]

Why the fuck did you follow her when she decided to leave?

I felt like I was being played. Didn't want her to go back to her friends and laugh about her bold adventure.

Why were you angry?

Gaslighting. She tried blaming me that I wasn't around and so it was not her mistake to run away. Also, she had done something so messy and yet laughing on the phone. Perhaps it brought back subconscious memories of my ex who did the same after cheating.

I never in my life had this happened and if did, i would have left

When I returned home, I thought the same too. I should've said "look you seem to be not in a right state of mind right now, let's meet another time" and left. It didn't occur to me in the moment.

She's for sure going to remember you having her stop and fuming at her though. That won't be forgotten. And of course, probably creeped the stuffing out of her in the moment... no wonder she blocked you. This one's done.

When weird shit happens, you've gotta learn to shrug your shoulders and be like, "Well. That sure was weird. Guess I'm eating dinner myself then. Glad I picked a place that I like!"

I haven't had this happen, but I have had girls do weird flakes or other weird things on me, where I was just like, "Well, I dunno what that was about, but I'm just not going to reply and just forget all about her since she was the one being weird and obviously in the wrong." Then the next day the girl is apologizing and... usually it is just super, super easy to lay her after that.

You just take no action AT ALL, because she is the one who made the faux pas, so she is the one who has to fix it. Girls who do weird shit know they are doing weird shit, and if a guy is legitimately cool and doesn't get flustered by their weird shit they will often get super into him. (and if they don't and they just vanish, well, now you don't have to deal with their weird shit. So it's a win either way!)

Just think of it as a massive shit test:

If she acts weird, and you freak out, you fail.

Keep your cool, and you may hear from her later. Ideally, highly apologetic and much more compliant.

Chase

I'm a bit stuck between "being cool" and "define boundaries" in dating.
Would one stay unphased even when the girl crosses your boundaries? Would you never tell her that what she did was not cool? Not only in this situation but anything in general. An extreme example: If she kisses another guy in front of you when exclusive and if you're unphased doesn't she think of you as a "doormat"?

BTW, I had no problem that she had come drunk. I was laughing with her when she was struggling to articulate. But what pissed me off is, to run away without letting me know and it was not funny. This is what I told her too.

Also, if a girl does something like this, isn't it disrespectful to give her another chance?
I was very pissed off by her behavior of running away and not letting me know that I wouldn't have fucked her, even if she came back. So, I'm not disappointed about that.

I forgot to mention one thing in the OP, although she was drunk, she was asking the right questions and still shit testing fine about my age etc. For ex: She asked me, what I did this afternoon and I said I had to prepare for an upcoming presentation at work and she was laughing saying who works on a Sunday? I said with a straight face that it's an important presentation and it needed better preparation. She asks, is it tomorrow? I said sometime this week and she says "why did you have to prepare so quickly on a Sunday?" and laughing etc. So she was aware of what she was talking but just fumbling for words. So, I wondered if she could do this, she could've as well informed me and left.

 

[Chase]

@Shawn,

Have you really never been blacked out drunk?

Let me tell you: I have picked up girls blacked out drunk and had no idea how I even got the girl, what I said to her... heck, how I got her home without crashing my car, for that matter. In the end you're just grateful to find out you used a condom, because aside from that you have no memory of anything. You can still be reasonably articulate when blacked out drunk (enough to pick women up), despite not being able to remember anything that happened more than a few minutes earlier and despite the fact that you will not know anything that happened the next day, aside from a few extra emotional moments that stick in your memory.

Also, this whole focus on 'respect'... dude, do you really not understand women at all?

Read (or reread) every article in this section as soon as you can:

Female Mind | Girls Chase

www.girlschase.com

'Constant respect' is a male-to-male quality. Women will respect you when they are happy or intimidated, and they will disrespect you when they are pissed off or jealous or whatever. But on top of that... she didn't even disrespect you here! She was completely hammered!

She probably had only the foggiest idea where she was... got on the phone with her friend... her friend was like "You're on a DATE? You're completely drunk! Come on, I'm going to order you a car right now, just come out and come home. Okay? You are TOO DRUNK to be dating right now!" and she was like okay, okay, I'll go outside, okay.

When you are that drunk, you are not thinking, "Oh, before I go, I should go and explain myself properly to the fine gentleman I've been texting who is seated at the table patiently awaiting my return from the toilet." You are just a bundle of instincts and a very short-term memory.

Would one stay unphased even when the girl crosses your boundaries? Would you never tell her that what she did was not cool? Not only in this situation but anything in general. An extreme example: If she kisses another guy in front of you when exclusive and if you're unphased doesn't she think of you as a "doormat"?

Is she your girlfriend? No way.

Is she some chick you are not together with yet physically? Then it is either a test, or it doesn't even matter, in which case you can still bed her anyway (and I have, indeed, bedded new girls who kissed other guys in front of me)... or she may not actually like you and is doing it specifically TO get a rise out of you, and you raging and getting all pissed at her about 'respect' is just the validation she was looking for.

You seem to not understand the fundamental principle that until a woman is yours, 'respect' does not really apply... not in the way you would apply it to a girlfriend or another male, anyway.

Also, if a girl does something like this, isn't it disrespectful to give her another chance?

Imagine you got so drunk you don't remember what you did the last night, then found out you had a date, and that you ran out on the date.

You text the girl: "Hey, I'm so sorry... did I run out on you last night?"

She texts back: "Yeah... we kinda had a date, which you kinda ditched. You're going to need to make that one up to me, lol."

What's your reaction? Do you think, "Geez, what a loser, I cannot believe she would tolerate that kind of disrespect from me. She should be yelling and screaming at me and telling me I'm the worst person in the world and that she refuses to ever see me again. Then I would know she is someone worthy of my respect"?

The mental models here are completely askew, man.

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with women.

It doesn't look like it's "get a lot of success with them."

If respect is so important, you should probably not be trying to seduce women.

Instead, you should maybe be focused on building a career as a firefighter, or a policeman, or a solider, or a doctor, etc.

You won't get nearly as many women as a seducer will. But you will get tons more 'respect', including from loads of women who won't sleep with you but WILL tell you how much they respect you for what you are doing, how awesome and amazing you are, and how they wished their guys were as heroic as you are.

Chase

 

[Skills]

@Shawn,

Have you really never been blacked out drunk?

Let me tell you: I have picked up girls blacked out drunk and had no idea how I even got the girl, what I said to her... heck, how I got her home without crashing my car, for that matter. In the end you're just grateful to find out you used a condom, because aside from that you have no memory of anything. You can still be reasonably articulate when blacked out drunk (enough to pick women up), despite not being able to remember anything that happened more than a few minutes earlier and despite the fact that you will not know anything that happened the next day, aside from a few extra emotional moments that stick in your memory.

Also, this whole focus on 'respect'... dude, do you really not understand women at all?

Read (or reread) every article in this section as soon as you can:

Female Mind | Girls Chase

www.girlschase.com

'Constant respect' is a male-to-male quality. Women will respect you when they are happy or intimidated, and they will disrespect you when they are pissed off or jealous or whatever. But on top of that... she didn't even disrespect you here! She was completely hammered!

She probably had only the foggiest idea where she was... got on the phone with her friend... her friend was like "You're on a DATE? You're completely drunk! Come on, I'm going to order you a car right now, just come out and come home. Okay? You are TOO DRUNK to be dating right now!" and she was like okay, okay, I'll go outside, okay.

When you are that drunk, you are not thinking, "Oh, before I go, I should go and explain myself properly to the fine gentleman I've been texting who is seated at the table patiently awaiting my return from the toilet." You are just a bundle of instincts and a very short-term memory.



Is she your girlfriend? No way.

Is she some chick you are not together with yet physically? Then it is either a test, or it doesn't even matter, in which case you can still bed her anyway (and I have, indeed, bedded new girls who kissed other guys in front of me)... or she may not actually like you and is doing it specifically TO get a rise out of you, and you raging and getting all pissed at her about 'respect' is just the validation she was looking for.

You seem to not understand the fundamental principle that until a woman is yours, 'respect' does not really apply... not in the way you would apply it to a girlfriend or another male, anyway.



Imagine you got so drunk you don't remember what you did the last night, then found out you had a date, and that you ran out on the date.

You text the girl: "Hey, I'm so sorry... did I run out on you last night?"

She texts back: "Yeah... we kinda had a date, which you kinda ditched. You're going to need to make that one up to me, lol."

What's your reaction? Do you think, "Geez, what a loser, I cannot believe she would tolerate that kind of disrespect from me. She should be yelling and screaming at me and telling me I'm the worst person in the world and that she refuses to ever see me again. Then I would know she is someone worthy of my respect"?

The mental models here are completely askew, man.

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with women.

It doesn't look like it's "get a lot of success with them."

If respect is so important, you should probably not be trying to seduce women.

Instead, you should maybe be focused on building a career as a firefighter, or a policeman, or a solider, or a doctor, etc.

You won't get nearly as many women as a seducer will. But you will get tons more 'respect', including from loads of women who won't sleep with you but WILL tell you how much they respect you for what you are doing, how awesome and amazing you are, and how they wished their guys were as heroic as you are.

Chase

Chase again disclaimer i am kj cause i dont drink and i dont mess with drunk girls.. but i personally would have left and i been 3 to 5 french women maybe more, i know they love coofee, wine, cigarrettes... but i never had any girl show up hammer to a date, i personally would have called her out and left, but again i am kj, never had this happened ever...

 

[Calibration]

@Shawn,

Have you really never been blacked out drunk?

Let me tell you: I have picked up girls blacked out drunk and had no idea how I even got the girl, what I said to her... heck, how I got her home without crashing my car, for that matter. In the end you're just grateful to find out you used a condom, because aside from that you have no memory of anything. You can still be reasonably articulate when blacked out drunk (enough to pick women up), despite not being able to remember anything that happened more than a few minutes earlier and despite the fact that you will not know anything that happened the next day, aside from a few extra emotional moments that stick in your memory.

Also, this whole focus on 'respect'... dude, do you really not understand women at all?

Read (or reread) every article in this section as soon as you can:

Female Mind | Girls Chase

www.girlschase.com

'Constant respect' is a male-to-male quality. Women will respect you when they are happy or intimidated, and they will disrespect you when they are pissed off or jealous or whatever. But on top of that... she didn't even disrespect you here! She was completely hammered!

She probably had only the foggiest idea where she was... got on the phone with her friend... her friend was like "You're on a DATE? You're completely drunk! Come on, I'm going to order you a car right now, just come out and come home. Okay? You are TOO DRUNK to be dating right now!" and she was like okay, okay, I'll go outside, okay.

When you are that drunk, you are not thinking, "Oh, before I go, I should go and explain myself properly to the fine gentleman I've been texting who is seated at the table patiently awaiting my return from the toilet." You are just a bundle of instincts and a very short-term memory.



Is she your girlfriend? No way.

Is she some chick you are not together with yet physically? Then it is either a test, or it doesn't even matter, in which case you can still bed her anyway (and I have, indeed, bedded new girls who kissed other guys in front of me)... or she may not actually like you and is doing it specifically TO get a rise out of you, and you raging and getting all pissed at her about 'respect' is just the validation she was looking for.

You seem to not understand the fundamental principle that until a woman is yours, 'respect' does not really apply... not in the way you would apply it to a girlfriend or another male, anyway.



Imagine you got so drunk you don't remember what you did the last night, then found out you had a date, and that you ran out on the date.

You text the girl: "Hey, I'm so sorry... did I run out on you last night?"

She texts back: "Yeah... we kinda had a date, which you kinda ditched. You're going to need to make that one up to me, lol."

What's your reaction? Do you think, "Geez, what a loser, I cannot believe she would tolerate that kind of disrespect from me. She should be yelling and screaming at me and telling me I'm the worst person in the world and that she refuses to ever see me again. Then I would know she is someone worthy of my respect"?

The mental models here are completely askew, man.

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with women.

It doesn't look like it's "get a lot of success with them."

If respect is so important, you should probably not be trying to seduce women.

Instead, you should maybe be focused on building a career as a firefighter, or a policeman, or a solider, or a doctor, etc.

You won't get nearly as many women as a seducer will. But you will get tons more 'respect', including from loads of women who won't sleep with you but WILL tell you how much they respect you for what you are doing, how awesome and amazing you are, and how they wished their guys were as heroic as you are.

Chase

Lol.. I get you @Chase . Sure, I'll read those articles soon. Thanks for sharing them.

I have blacked out a few times and I didn't do anything logically. I was just thinking if she can think logically about asking me the right questions, doesn't she know she need to inform me?

I try to see if a girl disrespects me as a shit-test or it's a plain insult, if it's the latter that's when I start thinking about "respect". Even when I approach a girl, some girls shit-test in multitude ways but some of them flat out insult and the latter really really pisses me off tbh. To be fair, there are only a handful of insults in 1000s of approaches.

BTW, I'm glad this incident happened, I got to learn a lot about myself and just women in general.

 

[Skills]

@Shawn i talked to a seducer friend of mine, who is a drunken expert, recently thanks god finally stopped... I asked him for his take....

He said that this girl is french and was drunk, and that you made a mistake having a logical type convo which is ideal with normal girls but not with drunk girls.... (again i am kj i don't know shit about drunk stuff)

He said drunk people look like they are in control but they are not is just running on reptilian brain instinct.....

his theory is she got bored and left, though i told him you have my style and you are not the boring type... but he says he thinks this was the mistake (again for me not a mistake i would have done the same)... Just giving you his take cause he would have banged her, his more scumbaggy than i am...

he also said that rsd tyler advise used to give was on gaming drunk girls spiking buying temperature and all that....

 

[Calibration]

@Shawn i talked to a seducer friend of mine, who is a drunken expert, recently thanks god finally stopped... I asked him for his take....

He said that this girl is french and was drunk, and that you made a mistake having a logical type convo which is ideal with normal girls but not with drunk girls.... (again i am kj i don't know shit about drunk stuff)

He said drunk people look like they are in control but they are not is just running on reptilian brain instinct.....

his theory is she got bored and left, though i told him you have my style and you are not the boring type... but he says he thinks this was the mistake (again for me not a mistake i would have done the same)... Just giving you his take cause he would have banged her, his more scumbaggy than i am...

he also said that rsd tyler advise used to give was on gaming drunk girls spiking buying temperature and all that....

I definitely don't want to bang a drunk chic. I had a very bad experience once. A few years ago a chic calls me at 11 pm and asked me if I can pick her up? I went to pick her up and her friends interrogate me for half an hour and send her with me. Then when having sex, she was literally jumping on my dick crazily in cow-girl and the condom slipped off and I was about to cum and shot inside her. She said she was on pills but some of friends scared the shit out of me that she was probably lying. Then next day she blocks me too. Next 3 months were the most dreadful time of my life. Thereafter, I decided not to fuck drunk girls.

Not sure if she was bored but she was definitely on high alert. I was teasing her for not trusting me and coming over to my place over text and I asked her if she got pepper spray. She mentioned to me that her friends are constantly monitoring her and they'd call her every now and then. So, maybe she was going bonkers. Anyway, a funny experience that I'm not going to forget for a long time.

Btw, it's funny that she was drunk af at 7 PM lol

 

[Skills]

I definitely don't want to bang a drunk chic. I had a very bad experience once. A few years ago a chic calls me at 11 pm and asked me if I can pick her up? I went to pick her up and her friends interrogate me for half an hour and send her with me. Then when having sex, she was literally jumping on my dick crazily in cow-girl and the condom slipped off and I was about to cum and shot inside her. She said she was on pills but some of friends scared the shit out of me that she was probably lying. Then next day she blocks me too. Next 3 months were the most dreadful time of my life. Thereafter, I decided not to fuck drunk girls.

Not sure if she was bored but she was definitely on high alert. I was teasing her for not trusting me and coming over to my place over text and I asked her if she got pepper spray. She mentioned to me that her friends are constantly monitoring her and they'd call her every now and then. So, maybe she was going bonkers. Anyway, a funny experience that I'm not going to forget for a long time.

Btw, it's funny that she was drunk af at 7 PM lol

yes i don't mess with drunk girls no matter how horny i am... no worth a false accusation

 

[Boom_1982]

I definitely don't want to bang a drunk chic. I had a very bad experience once. A few years ago a chic calls me at 11 pm and asked me if I can pick her up? I went to pick her up and her friends interrogate me for half an hour and send her with me. Then when having sex, she was literally jumping on my dick crazily in cow-girl and the condom slipped off and I was about to cum and shot inside her. She said she was on pills but some of friends scared the shit out of me that she was probably lying. Then next day she blocks me too. Next 3 months were the most dreadful time of my life. Thereafter, I decided not to fuck drunk girls.

Not sure if she was bored but she was definitely on high alert. I was teasing her for not trusting me and coming over to my place over text and I asked her if she got pepper spray. She mentioned to me that her friends are constantly monitoring her and they'd call her every now and then. So, maybe she was going bonkers. Anyway, a funny experience that I'm not going to forget for a long time.

Btw, it's funny that she was drunk af at 7 PM lol

Thanks for sharing @Shawn. Your incident has been a learning experience for me and you've already received good advice from Skills and Chase. My two cents
- Forget respect and focus on pussy
- More assertive and less demanding. Nobody owes you anything
-You're the prize

I definitely don't want to bang a drunk chic. I had a very bad experience once. A few years ago a chic calls me at 11 pm and asked me if I can pick her up? I went to pick her up and her friends interrogate me for half an hour and send her with me. Then when having sex, she was literally jumping on my dick crazily in cow-girl and the condom slipped off and I was about to cum and shot inside her. She said she was on pills but some of friends scared the shit out of me that she was probably lying. Then next day she blocks me too. Next 3 months were the most dreadful time of my life. Thereafter, I decided not to fuck drunk girls.

Not sure if she was bored but she was definitely on high alert. I was teasing her for not trusting me and coming over to my place over text and I asked her if she got pepper spray. She mentioned to me that her friends are constantly monitoring her and they'd call her every now and then. So, maybe she was going bonkers. Anyway, a funny experience that I'm not going to forget for a long time.

Btw, it's funny that she was drunk af at 7 PM lol

 

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I read the first 4 articles and it was an interesting read. There was a lot of valuable info. Relating to this post, I now see where you're coming from. Your reaction to her behavior will be like - I have so much abundance that I didn't even notice your silly behavior, I'm onto my next pursuit. It was just silly and cute.
On the other hand, when you call out her behavior, it's also communicating the same I guess - I have so much abundance that I don't care what you think but I don't tolerate your behavior.

I guess the difference is in sub-communication. Looking back, I think I did pretty well by calling out her behavior in a calm way and my body language was not confrontational and didn't seem affected. Only mistake I did was the wrong choice of words: "Running away from the date was not nice. You could've informed me and left. This is the worst date I ever had. Take care!"

She probably had only the foggiest idea where she was... got on the phone with her friend... her friend was like "You're on a DATE? You're completely drunk! Come on, I'm going to order you a car right now, just come out and come home. Okay? You are TOO DRUNK to be dating right now!" and she was like okay, okay, I'll go outside, okay.

Exactly! Looked like, this is exactly how it happened from what I could see her on the phone.

 

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Thanks for sharing @Shawn. Your incident has been a learning experience for me and you've already received good advice from Skills and Chase. My two cents
- Forget respect and focus on pussy

I'm a bit wary of this advice while I agree with the rest since I've come full circle. Most of my life, I've not taken girls seriously but from my experience, with some girls you really need to define boundaries.

Just to quote an example:
I had a female friend who you can call the typical bitch. She was an attention ho. Once I had a party at my place and she got so wasted that you can't imagine the things that she did until I intervened and literally had to ask her to leave. She spilled drink on a girl she didn't like and pretended like it was an accident. One of my guy friend who she was interested in was chatting to a girl, she went over to them and said "don't trust her... Hahaha.. no, I'm joking". Then she insisted that she stay back at my place for the night and when I said no you have to leave, she thought it was funny to pinch my nipples. I told her to stop doing that in a funny tone a few times and she increased doing that. I had to put on a serious face and asked her to leave and told her that she'll never be invited. Just a few things I remember from what she did. I actually felt very bad doing that and the next day she apologized to me and I did the same. But I had no way to stop her except what I did.

I must admit that with girls I want to bang or just dating in general, I still have things which I'm not sure of, though. So, I try to apply whatever knowledge I have.

 

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Whenever things go south like with this girl, I subconsciously tend to fall into a negative mindset about women but one of your article addresses this very precisely and that is exactly what I wanted today. Thanks for that article @Chase

 

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@Skills,

He said that this girl is french and was drunk, and that you made a mistake having a logical type convo which is ideal with normal girls but not with drunk girls.... (again i am kj i don't know shit about drunk stuff)

He said drunk people look like they are in control but they are not is just running on reptilian brain instinct.....

his theory is she got bored and left, though i told him you have my style and you are not the boring type... but he says he thinks this was the mistake (again for me not a mistake i would have done the same)... Just giving you his take cause he would have banged her, his more scumbaggy than i am...

That's a good analysis from your friend, yeah.

When girls are really drunk you basically need just straight up instinctual game, fun, sexy, pattern interrupts, expressive emotions, etc.

(I messed around with drunk girls a bit when I was a newbie... only while getting equally plastered to them or more though, felt like it wasn't 'fair' if I was sober but she was drunk, lol... wouldn't recommend it now, especially in the current environment, but it is what it is)

If her friends were calling her and telling her to leave but she was having a really good time with Shawn she would've pushed back. "It's okay, I REALLY like him... he is SO cool... I am NOT leaving, lol! I'm fine! Stop worrying!"

If he's not gaming her on-point though and the friend is calling telling her to go, she is just going to do what they tell her to in that case.

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As for handling the girl showing up drunk... here is what you do:

"Hey, I really like you! But you are plastered right now, lol! We need to get you home and then we can meet up another time when you're not so shitfaced. Do you have a girlfriend you can call who can pick you up?" Then you just have her call her girlfriend and if need be you can talk to the girlfriend and laugh and tell her "Hey I had a date with Liz tonight, she is awesome, but tonight she showed up completely hammered! I think we should adjourn here and continue again when she's more sober. Think you can pick her up and take her home safely? I'll keep an eye on her till you get here, but you should probably get here before she passes out, lol."

It's just all: positive emotions, positive emotions, taking care of her, handing her off to her female friend so there's no 'oh but he was alone with me trying to go home with me when I was drunk but then we didn't get together, was it because I fended him off?' BS to deal with later when she tries to patch together her blacked out memory, etc. Let her friend who she trusts fill her in on the details the next day once her memory is working properly again.

Then when she sobers up later the friend will just sing your praises... and if she comes out to meet you sober the second time and you're a fun, sexy guy, then you're the socially proofed lover, she feels a little embarrassed about last time and wants to make things up... all you need to do is not screw up.

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Your reaction to her behavior will be like - I have so much abundance that I didn't even notice your silly behavior, I'm onto my next pursuit. It was just silly and cute.
On the other hand, when you call out her behavior, it's also communicating the same I guess - I have so much abundance that I don't care what you think but I don't tolerate your behavior.

Yeah exactly.

You're discriminating without being judgmental or emotional about it.

"Hmm, that doesn't seem like something I want to put up with/be around. Ah well, girls will be girls! [shrug] [onto the next one]"

This is how cool people deal with things. If you do something shitty to a girl and she just sorts of shrugs her eyebrows and is like "Not sure if that's the right way to deal with people, but... you do you," and then just leaves and goes and does something else, she is going to look so much cooler and higher value to you than if she gets pissed off, confronts you, tells you off, or anything else. Works the same way when it is you dealing with weird/crappy behavior from women.

Sometimes you will even get girls chasing you down later who were shitty to you earlier, because they cannot psychologically deal with the fact that they were unable to get to you. They will come after you, be asking you, "What is your deal?" etc... they may ask you if you are gay (if they were trying to make you jealous or get you to chase), or they may apologize for their earlier behavior if they are the more self-aware types.

To put it even simpler: when a girl commits a faux pas, you, in a very cool way, imply that she has committed a faux pas and is the one behaving unusually, then just stop talking to her, again in a cool way, and put some distance between her.

(I also think this is better from a male ego perspective too. Doesn't it feel so much better being the super cool guy who is above women's petty antics than it is being the reactive guy who gets all upset because a woman stomped on his toes? I think so)

Chase

 

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This is interesting, read till the end

I'm a bit excited tbh since I've always dreaded texting. This is a huge win for me since I got the girl to come on a date only through texting. Maybe I cracked the texting code? Thanks @Skills

I have a few questions at the end of the post.

Approach:
On Thursday afternoon while out for lunch from work, I saw this gorgeous looking chic in the food court. I saw her from a distance and then went to approach when she was in front of a stall and as I approached, looks like she didn't like that and went to another stall and this happened 4-5 times. Its funny that I followed her, everywhere. I was almost about to give up and then she stops in front of one of the stall and is facing the stall. I didn't want to approach from behind. So, waited until she turned around. As soon as she turned around, she looked at me and she smiled when she made eye contact and immediately looked away. I smiled and complimented on her eyes. It was super crowded but I was so attracted to her that I didn't care and I loudly and clearly said, "Did anyone tell you, you have stunning eyes?". People were looking at me and she blushed. I continued, "You have this very unique eyes" and showed her with my fingers. She had this "Fox eyes", so seductive.Then I spoke to her for probably 3-4 mins max and she was rushing. I made deep eye-contact and touched her shoulder at her neck, she put her head down. Took her number and left.

Texting:
There was a lot of texting in 3 days and this is the longest I've ever texted a girl and got her on a date. (Warning: Lot of texts)
I also built comfort over text which was actually pretty challenging but I think I did a good job without falling into friendzone this time @Will_V

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Date:
I thought she was joking when she told me over text that she was drunk. I met her outside the restaurant and gave her a hug and she stinks of alcohol. I thought she'll be alright in time. She was suuuuper drunk that she was unable to speak even. We find corner stools and sit next to each other and she has droopy eyes. We talk some basic shit for maybe 10 mins about how our days were etc and in my mind I didn't know what to do with her since she was able to ask right questions but she is struggling to articulate. Then she says, she wants to go to the toilet. After a few mins, I went to the counter to ask the menu and I look behind to see her and she is running out of the restaurant. I went running after her and stopped her and asked what happened? She said her friend called her and she wants to go. I said ok that's fine and ask if she is alright and she says "Yes, my friend just called me and so I have to go". I say, Ok and I kept walking and she was walking behind me talking on the phone with her friend and laughing. I was very angry. After around 50 mtrs, I stop her and tell her to get off the phone, I wanted to talk to her for a minute. Then I say "Look its ok, if you are leaving and running away was not nice". I said that very firmly looking into her eyes. She tried gaslighting saying "What could I have done? I looked for you around and couldn't find you and I had to rush". I got very very angry but still held my composure and said "I was looking for the menu and you could've looked around for me and not run away without telling me. Don't ever do this again! This is the worst date I've ever had". She apologises saying "Sorry. You know I'm drunk". I looked at her for a few secs into her eyes and said "Take care!". She says "You too!" and I walk away. After 10 mins, she blocked me.

Questions:
1. Was there anything that I could've done better in texting? @Skills
2. Did I overreact?
3. Am I safe? Whenever things don't go well with girls, for some unknown reason I have irrational fear around FRA accusation or things similar. Is there something that I need to do?
4. I'm so glad I met her in public and its a lesson learnt to not invite girls home directly. Any thoughts on this?

Cheers guys for all your help!

Well, i have had a gal i approached in the streets whom we had been exchanging texts back n forth for two months finally agree to come to my place. she came late with an uber with a chivas whisky in her hand, totally hammered, she told me her ex is the one who had bought it for her. she told me to pay for her uber while at the gate and i agreed, she came inside and gave me a very difficult time. she was really drunk, wearing a very short red dress with no panties. we caressed but didn't fuck coz she was drank, she offered me her alcohol and we continued to have a rather uncomfortable night, those days curfews were still on and i couldn't kick her out, she came over almost past curfew time. it was a hell of a night but i just stayed relax and finally slept off. she kept cuddling me the whole night and dry humping me, she was quite a mess but that was it. It was a nightmare for me. I finally saw her off in the morning.
So yeah, as a seducer you will ran into such scenarios, just stay calm and may be try giving the gals water. In my case I gave her water but she continued drinking, she told me she also smokes weed, which i know she did.

 

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Well, i have had a gal i approached in the streets whom we had been exchanging texts back n forth for two months finally agree to come to my place. she came late with an uber with a chivas whisky in her hand, totally hammered, she told me her ex is the one who had bought it for her. she told me to pay for her uber while at the gate and i agreed, she came inside and gave me a very difficult time. she was really drunk, wearing a very short red dress with no panties. we caressed but didn't fuck coz she was drank, she offered me her alcohol and we continued to have a rather uncomfortable night, those days curfews were still on and i couldn't kick her out, she came over almost past curfew time. it was a hell of a night but i just stayed relax and finally slept off. she kept cuddling me the whole night and dry humping me, she was quite a mess but that was it. It was a nightmare for me. I finally saw her off in the morning.
So yeah, as a seducer you will ran into such scenarios, just stay calm and may be try giving the gals water. In my case I gave her water but she continued drinking, she told me she also smokes weed, which i know she did.

No you wont, it is super super super unlikely girl meet on a date and shows up drunk we can do a survey .00000001%