Girl with fiance

[nomorals]

Firstly I understand if most consider this a line not to cross but I've gotten myself in a situation that's evoking strong moral considerations for me.

I've been slowly demolishing the walls with this girl that I recently met (last time I had fingers up her) but I'm feeling extremely guilty about all the guilt she's feeling because she is engaged.

She keeps saying she feels really safe with me and has never felt this way with anyone else in years and she doesn't even know why because everything is almost perfect with the other guy and all her friends keep telling her how lucky she is to have him.

I've been escalating very smoothly and I know I can probably get over the last hurdle if I really push but I think I'm having my own mental block of guilt knowing that I will ruin this girl's life forever and send her into an existential crisis. I really enjoy being around this girl but I know I cannot give her the white picket fence ending that she will ultimately get from her fiance. But, at the same time, I also know she's lacking the excitement in her life that I bring to the table and I know that she really wants that as well.

If any of you guys have been in such a situation I'd appreciate any input.

 

[reeax]

Unless you think that you have some future with that girl, forget that. You are just fucking with their lives for nothing.

 

[Alpha13SC]

Chances are that if you re not the guy who ll screw her, another one might be. Her desire for something will still be there.

Depends on your morals now.

Me, personally I don t give a fuck about guilt. But I wouldn t place myself in a situation like this. Might not worth it.

I had situations with girls in relationship. Didn t felt in any way, other than a side dick. Maybe was not so rewarding than I thought or it s just my common sense to not do it.

 

[POB]

I believe in the Laws of the Universe.
One of them says:
"Your reap what you sow"
Another one:
"What goes around, comes around"

That's why I stopped messing with married/engaged women.

 

[Zoro]

Don't assume that things are going to be flowers and rainbows for her, especially if there is already this internal conflict for her.

Most people have no idea how to run relationships and then they get MARRIED.

So while I don't think you should be the one to bring down the glass castle, sounds to me like it's going to come crashing down eventually.

 

[TomInHo]

No need to feel guilty about your desires

But you sound crazy talking about how you can't give her a white picket fence ending. Any girl that cheats on her man to be with you should automatically be disqualified for anything serious

Because if she did that to him, why wouldn't she do that to you? And please don't tell me something retarded like it's because you're special and have game

Either way her marriage is already doomed. Because if she doesn't fuck you she will probably fuck someone else.

Put yourself first and forget how she feels because it's doesn't matter. Instead do what you feel is best for you

Fuck her if you want but don't be a moron and get into serious relationship with her. Also accept that if her Fiancé finds out about it there's a small chance you could get deleted and we'll never hear from you again

And if you feel too much guilt then simply don't do it. She's not the only beautiful girl in the world you can fuck, and there are others you can have fun with that won't make you feel negative emotions or complicate your life

The choice is yours

 

[Conquistador]

Tl;dr don’t treat her like a madonna if she’s cheating on him
She’s a naughty cheater and that’s totally fine but you are just having fun together. Be chill, give her fun. Or don’t get involved.

The choice is yours…

 

[Arnav]

I had been in a similar situation, where I was the sideguy to the girl who was engaged, she eventually dumped me to go back to her stable partner and their married life continued just fine ( which was quite surprising to me)

The way this situation came around to hurt me was I was became a little too paranoid about cheating after this and would become hyperaware about girls behaviour who I would be with, extremely anxious and on the edge fearing there might be another guy like me putting the moves my girl.

 

[POB]

Once I hooked up with a married woman who was taking a break from her husband (didn't know it at that time).
We got together and I gave her the complete D treatment.
While her husband was buying her a lot of shit (including a brand new car) to try to get back with her, she was giving me lifts and sucking my cock in the same car that the guy bought her!!!

He was kissing her ass, and she was kissing MY ass.

Of course it didn't last long...once she figured out I was not going to commit, she went back to him.
This is the lover vs provider conundrum in a nutshell.
You should always start as the lover, no matter the situation.

 

[Skills]

Firstly I understand if most consider this a line not to cross but I've gotten myself in a situation that's evoking strong moral considerations for me.

I've been slowly demolishing the walls with this girl that I recently met (last time I had fingers up her) but I'm feeling extremely guilty about all the guilt she's feeling because she is engaged.

She keeps saying she feels really safe with me and has never felt this way with anyone else in years and she doesn't even know why because everything is almost perfect with the other guy and all her friends keep telling her how lucky she is to have him.

I've been escalating very smoothly and I know I can probably get over the last hurdle if I really push but I think I'm having my own mental block of guilt knowing that I will ruin this girl's life forever and send her into an existential crisis. I really enjoy being around this girl but I know I cannot give her the white picket fence ending that she will ultimately get from her fiance. But, at the same time, I also know she's lacking the excitement in her life that I bring to the table and I know that she really wants that as well.

If any of you guys have been in such a situation I'd appreciate any input.

There is no need to feel guilty i used to feel this way, but you are actually in some cases helping no make the wrong choice, if she is engage and willing to cheat she is totally marrying the wrong dude and vice versa.... You are helping both of making a mistake, just make sure you are extremely discreet never in her crib... make sure you do not encourage her to leave hubby, you do not judge, and you are EXTREMELY discreet....

 

[Tony D]

I love married women. They're the best.

They usually get snatched up and married young, before they get to try a lot different men and sexual experiences.

You may be experiencing a little bit of Madonna/Whore complex. She is an adult and knows exactly what she's doing. Don't place the blame on yourself if she fucks up her marriage. She's a woman and can get dick from any number of Chads out there. Trust me, she's being offered dick every single day. You think you're the only one she's on the verge of banging? Hahahaha. Read this thing I wrote about married women. https://www.absoluteability.com/dating/best-women-usually-married/

Just be careful that she doesn't tell the husband and he shows up on your doorstep with a Glock.

 

[Conquistador]

Read this thing I wrote about married women. https://www.absoluteability.com/dating/best-women-usually-married/

Great stuff

 

[Chase]

I mean, this is a widespread female reproductive strategy.

If she can't land the chad as a long-term partner, she gets herself a good provider as the LTR and a chad as her side-dick.

Whether it is going to shoot her into an existential crisis... well is she talking about how guilty she feels hanging out with you when she has this great guy? It doesn't sound like she is. It sounds like she's saying "Wow, I can't believe I'm with you! I mean I have this other great guy yet here I am, tee-hee!"

She is likely to be doing the same thing post-shag as well. "Wow, how did that happen! I have this awesome dude! Yet here I am, getting fucked! How silly of me!"

If a woman is going to feel guilty, she will feel guilty about the emotional affair far more than she will anything sexual that happens. The sex is just icing on the cake. As opposed to men (well... most men), for whom the emotional affair isn't really anything, but sex is a BIG DEAL.

Her fiancé would probably be a lot more wrecked by you banging her than you hanging out with her and her falling for you.

But the girl doesn't sound conflicted from your description. If she's not conflicted about the emotional affair, she won't be conflicted about sex. The sex to her is just an extension of the emotional affair that is already ongoing.

Unless she has a change of heart for some reason (unlikely), her fiancé is not likely to ever learn about what goes on between you and her, especially if it is short-lived. So it's really down to "How does it affect her?" and it doesn't sound like she cares.

Anyway, down to your principles.

I won't shag engaged or married chicks personally (if I know they're engaged/married, that is)... but different guys are going to have different yardsticks for what is or is not acceptable to them.

Chase

 

[KJ Francis]

Whiile her husband was buying her a lot of shit (including a brand new car) to try to get back with her, she was giving me lifts and sucking my cock in the same car that the guy bought her!!!

"She askin' me to aim for her neck, 'cause her boyfriend bought that necklace"
-Ty Dolla Sign

I think I started on the path of pursuing multiple women with a very sad belief that no woman will ever only want you. She will never be some perfect soulmate.

Like even if you're a top seducer and can run a great relationship with amazing sex where she is head over heels for you... Don't you think she'd still fuck Leonardo DiCaprio if the chance arose?