"Girls are the worst reason to do steroids" - video by dr. Mike Israetel

[Lantern]

Dr. Mike is IMO a great voice in the fitness online world, and he put out this video on the topic of getting girls with muscles.

I think it's very good, it's also something maybe some of the younger guys on here need to see. I'd also like to hear expirienced seducers thoughts on his breakdown of what things are better to do then take steroids if you want to get laid.

 

[Teevster]

The Worst reason to do roids is that it makes you want to suck dick and fuck trannies. Not even a joke.

-Teevster

 

[Chase]

The Worst reason to do roids is that it makes you want to suck dick and fuck trannies. Not even a joke.

-Teevster

Reference:

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www.skilledseducer.com

 

[Chase]

But yeah, first dude I ever knew on steroids bawled his eyes out to me in a hotel room because he couldn't get a girl.

That was a terrifying experience. I kept worrying the guy was going to rape me. I was skinny as a twig back then.

I talked about this and more in this article:

Why Do So Many People Think Muscles Get You Girls?

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www.girlschase.com

 

[POB]

I've read a ton of books about steroids these past couple of months.
This is the bottom line:
Proper steroid use is nothing more than damage control.
That's it really.

Because you ARE going to get side effects from them.
They can be mild or severe, and you never know what's gonna happen until you try.
Personally I'm pushing the start of my TRT journey far back to my 50s (originally I was gonna start at my 40s).

P.S. big muscles are nothing more than a crutch, like a fancy car.

 

[Conquistador]

Don’t steroids and TRT reduce your natural production of testosterone and related hormones?

‘Nuff said imho

 

[Warped Mindless]

Don’t steroids and TRT reduce your natural production of testosterone and related hormones?

‘Nuff said imho

Yes but the idea of TRT is that you don’t get on it unless your already have diminished testosterone production. Of course, that’s not always the case and some men get on it not for replacement but rather optimization.

Many guys would see improvement in T production if they ate healthy, stopped drinking beer, and slept a full 8 hours but other guys need TRT to have normal production.

 

[Skills]

I've read a ton of books about steroids these past couple of months.
This is the bottom line:
Proper steroid use is nothing more than damage control.
That's it really.

Because you ARE going to get side effects from them.
They can be mild or severe, and you never know what's gonna happen until you try.
Personally I'm pushing the start of my TRT journey far back to my 50s (originally I was gonna start at my 40s).

P.S. big muscles are nothing more than a crutch, like a fancy car.

yeah this post unfortunately misunderstood... first of all to get that repulsive body on roids op is talking about you need to take tonsss of steroids and even with tons i doubt it...

The steroid that give roid rage and fucks with your brain is tren..... Which is also one of the most effective to get that cool body but the downsides is no way jose....

Reason not to do steroids when young are simple:

- side effects such as hairloss and acne which of course will affect seduction.
- Tren for example what is call as roid rage (specially tren) bad for seduction, you will want to fight everyone at the club...
- Libido destruction of improper use of ai (estrogen blockers)
- libido destruction which is cause by some steroids like deca.
- you will be a vegetable after you are done with some steroids cause the testie will stop producing the natural testorene while you are on some steroids...
-long time health problems if not done correctly like heart attack...
-you will lose your gains when you stop leading to self image issues and addiction


That video guy is not a seducer sorry.... There are some things consider steroid that are actually pro seducer:

- proviron (this will get you a lean look and will shoot up your sex drive like crazy) though if you are prone to balding, no good..
- testosterone at therapeutic level - if done right after proper study it could make you feel like a teen in your 40s and 50s.....


there are also good with women that have done steroids zyzz and most of the sick cunts(video)were getting girls a lot plaid with juice(though zyzz died).... Gll/scoty/boytoy/revlifestyledesign (boy toy is now more plates more dates he was a seducer in nextasf) and other seducers plaid around with roids.......

I am personally against roids you do not need them for seduction tbh, is a water is wet concept but roids = arnold look is also none sense..... (a lot of fitness insta models on roid they don't look like arnold)

I would personally advice everybody no to do roids because of girls not due to LOOKS but cause of what i mentioned could be consequences.
- trt (though not steroid if taking at proper doses for therapeutic i may recommend after 40s after everything else exhausted) i did it around 45 after exhausting everything...Never touch roids other than proviron around my 40s which was the first trt back in the days, me trying to avoid going into trt.

-with the information and technology today you can achieve a really nice seduction type body without roids....In some cases roid makes it worst due to water retention/blooted look anti-seductive (you look like a marshmallow).....

 

[POB]

The steroid that give roid rage and fucks with your brain is tren..... Which is also one of the most effective to get that cool body but the downsides is no way jose....

Tren does not only fucks with your rage, but can give you permament depression too (not even mentioning the suicidal thoughts).

Reason not to do steroids when young are simple:

- side effects such as hairloss and acne which of course will affect seduction.
- Tren for example what is call as roid rage (specially tren) bad for seduction, you will want to fight everyone at the club...
- Libido destruction of improper use of ai (estrogen blockers)
- libido destruction which is cause by some steroids like deca.
- you will be a vegetable after you are done with some steroids cause the testie will stop producing the natural testorene while you are on some steroids...
-long time health problems if not done correctly like heart attack...
-you will lose your gains when you stop leading to self image issues and addiction

If you don't know anything about:
- dieting and proper bulking
- blast and cruise,
- aromatization,
- estrogen modulation,
- post-therapy cycle,
- half-life and
- the difference between 17-alpha alkylated vs non-alkylated drugs,
you shouldn't even consider touching it.

There are some things consider steroid that are actually pro seducer:

- proviron (this will get you a lean look and will shoot up your sex drive like crazy) though if you are prone to balding, no good..
- testosterone at therapeutic level - if done right after proper study it could make you feel like a teen in your 40s and 50s.....

Testo+deca is the most simple and effective combo for muscle growth.
Usually, you keep testo to a minimum baseline, and modulate deca as high as you can to test for side effects (mainly gyno and hair loss).
No need for anything else (unless you REALLY wanna be the biggest guy round).

I am personally against roids you do not need them for seduction tbh, is a water is wet concept but roids = arnold look is also none sense..... (a lot of fitness insta models on roid they don't look like arnold)

I would personally advice everybody no to do roids because of girls not due to LOOKS but cause of what i mentioned could be consequences.
- trt (though not steroid if taking at proper doses for therapeutic i may recommend after 40s after everything else exhausted) i did it around 45 after exhausting everything...Never touch roids other than proviron around my 40s which was the first trt back in the days, me trying to avoid going into trt.

-with the information and technology today you can achieve a really nice seduction type body without roids....In some cases roid makes it worst due to water retention/blooted look anti-seductive (you look like a marshmallow).....

Yeah, just stop being lazy, eat right and go to the gym.

 

[Police dog]

Same reason as for buying a motorcycle. Many folks think it will attract girls, in reality it attracts high school boys and some middle aged men.
As for the topic, as someone who has been using some gear for some time already, I will chime in:

Testo+deca is the most simple and effective combo for muscle growth.
Usually, you keep testo to a minimum baseline, and modulate deca as high as you can to test for side effects (mainly gyno and hair loss).

That's a terrible advice, first of all, long ethers of progesterone drugs especially at higher doses have a huge potential to give you all sorts of side effects. As for deca-dick, I personally know three people who came with erectile dysfunction and prolactin levels of like a nursing mother. Albeit, all of them been blasting like 600 mg per week, with one idiot doing it solo. I have seen idiots blasting deca with test p and having a lot of trouble to figure out when to stop which. Deca will give you much more gyno than any test because it is a progesterone based compound, please don't assume that all gyno come from estradiol and prolactin levels have nothing to do with it. For said side effects we have AI and cabergolin, no need to dance around low test doses. And if you are afraid of hair-loss, then you need to decide what you need more, your hair or your muscles, because as soon as you start PCT your DHT levels will explode anyway and will eat tons of your hair in just a few weeks. If you blast nandrolones, at least chose an NPP. Any test + anabolic compound is an effective combo for muscle growth, boldenone is as good as nandrolones just takes weeks to start working.

trt (though not steroid if taking at proper doses for therapeutic i may recommend after 40s after everything else exhausted)

IMO: if you are using gear do it all the way in already, if you just want to restore T levels you can always opt for antiestrogens, clomid therapy is very effective and much safer than test injections even at trt levels.

you will be a vegetable after you are done with some steroids cause the testie will stop producing the natural testorene while you are on some steroids.

That's misleading, we have HCG and HMG for that problem, yes you won't be producing any test but it's pretty easy to restore it if you been using HCG through the cycle. And not just some steroids, all of them will shut down your HPT axis.

The Worst reason to do roids is that it makes you want to suck dick and fuck trannies. Not even a joke.

This guy knows what's up

Dr. Mike is IMO a great voice in the fitness online world, and he put out this video on the topic of getting girls with muscles.

The guy on thumbnail doesn't even lift IMO... I know some people think visible abs = muscular but at least he could chose some bodybuilder for that...

 

[Teevster]

This guy knows what's up

I have never done roids, but I know the tranny community well, and they always seem to hook up with very "masculine looking" men, usually muscular bad boys. It is crazy!

-Teevster

 

[Conquistador]

Same reason as for buying a motorcycle. Many folks think it will attract girls, in reality it attracts high school boys and some middle aged men.

Really? Doesn’t work?

Iirc Chase goes so far as to claim it’s the single most effective quick-n-dirty solution.

Also IME, I don’t own a motorcycle but I’ve found that a MTB, particularly when used competently and aggressively, but even just wheeling the thing or wearing a helmet on the bus, appeals in an analogous way to a slightly different (but overlapping) demographic of girl. Three of my most memorable pre-seduction experiences with girls involved bike trips. I also notice more IoIs.

Part of it may simply be socially acceptable non-conformity like in the recent thread. It also might just showcase attractive traits. And of course while you’re riding it you’re even taller lol

 

[Police dog]

Really? Doesn’t work?

Iirc Chase goes so far as to claim it’s the single most effective quick-n-dirty solution.

Also IME, I don’t own a motorcycle but I’ve found that a MTB, particularly when used competently and aggressively, but even just wheeling the thing or wearing a helmet on the bus, appeals in an analogous way to a slightly different (but overlapping) demographic of girl. Three of my most memorable pre-seduction experiences with girls involved bike trips. I also notice more IoIs.

Part of it may simply be socially acceptable non-conformity like in the recent thread. It also might just showcase attractive traits. And of course while you’re riding it you’re even taller lol

If you are otherwise cool sure, if not, you be just another guy who owns a bike

 

[Skills]

Really? Doesn’t work?

Iirc Chase goes so far as to claim it’s the single most effective quick-n-dirty solution.

Also IME, I don’t own a motorcycle but I’ve found that a MTB, particularly when used competently and aggressively, but even just wheeling the thing or wearing a helmet on the bus, appeals in an analogous way to a slightly different (but overlapping) demographic of girl. Three of my most memorable pre-seduction experiences with girls involved bike trips. I also notice more IoIs.

Part of it may simply be socially acceptable non-conformity like in the recent thread. It also might just showcase attractive traits. And of course while you’re riding it you’re even taller lol

It is... @Alpha13SC is proof of this...

 

[Alpha13SC]

It is... @Alpha13SC is proof of this...

It works . . . to a certain extent.

You ll get a certain status, people will expect from you to be more bold, more courageous so you can get with multiple things at once because you have that outlaw look.

Having a full gear can look very sexy for a girl.

Girls who incline more on a thrill of excitmenent will want a ride with you, and you can proceed your seduction but other times it s just . . a ride.

Other ones who are already interested in you will you this as a plausible deniability to get closer to you.

For online dating, it keeps you apart, more or less, because these days a lot of people get a bike.

I use it to make my dates more fun, the girl has to be very close to me, I can caress her legs at red lights, to make sure she s comfortable. Request them to "look cool, I don t want to be average in traffic" jokingly. Puts me in a leading position from the get go, with me teaching her how to stay on my bike and she ll comply.

Logistically, it s heaven because I can get her from her house and return her back, then go upstairs fast for whatever reason.

It s not a magic bullet, but I had a few girls who maybe amplified what was already there and I used it wisely.

Nowadays I use it for dates and . . groceries or whatever I have to do. Only thing is that it can be dangerous. Already been hospitalized for a small amount of time. I hope that you re just lucky.

Alpha13SC

 

[POB]

That's a terrible advice, first of all, long ethers of progesterone drugs especially at higher doses have a huge potential to give you all sorts of side effects. As for deca-dick, I personally know three people who came with erectile dysfunction and prolactin levels of like a nursing mother.

No, it's not terrible advice.
Testo+deca is the most newbie friendly combo with the least side effects.
You just have to start at the lowest possible dosage, keep doing blood tests (specially to check your lipid panel) and modulate accordingly.
Anyway, the fact is that once you start, you will get side effects.
The most important thing is to monitor those and try your best to avoid permanent damage (mostly to things like liver, kidneys, heart and neurons).
No drug is good or bad until you talk about dosage and saturation point...because everyone will react differently to the same compounds, and have a different saturation point to their receptors.
For example, If you take a whole pack of paracetamol, which is a very common and easy to get drug, you will probably die.
Another e.g.: Tren has a bad rep, and it's well deserved....but at super minimum dosages and in shorter cycles, it can do wonders, especially to women.
Re-read my entire post and you will understand.

Albeit, all of them been blasting like 600 mg per week, with one idiot doing it solo. I have seen idiots blasting deca with test p and having a lot of trouble to figure out when to stop which.

This is why you should start super low.
600mg is just a disaster waiting to happen.