FR Going against the clock. Was this possible?

[Higher]

Ok, just met a stunner, we vibed but it died down after a while.

Wrote this down quickly. Feedback always welcome!

--

So, i went out on a mission today: approaching a girl and quickly getting increasing investment from her. I was gonna focus on this and this only (its my biggest sticking point currently) and sorta treat it like practice.

Its around 2pm and i see this girl as shes taking pics at the river. She looks really good in her white long dress and cute hat.

I approach with the usual pic opener, shes very warm and smiley. (EDIT: I complimented her style and her eyes right after the opener. I didnt ask her right away if shes single like i usually do - i did later on.)

Shes in the city as a tourist and leaving tonight at 8pm (EDIT: shes a medical student). I think to myself, this is a good challenge!

I ask her what shes doing. She says shes going to the beach, but i proceed to hijack her schedule and lead her to a coffee place. She happily follows. (bounce #1)

Convo is decent: we talk about living in the moment, being spontaneous and traveling, and we connect on a ton of stuff. I also talk quickly about my city and how beautiful it is.

Then i bounce us around a number of locations - maybe too many.

#2: bench where we talk about sex and relationships. (EDIT: i think i asked her "are u single?" here)

#3: viewing point, where we talk about living "outside of the matrix" and how many ppl just live by and feel no spark in what theyre doing.

#4: another bench in a park, and we talk about religion (shes orthodox christian - i carefully avoid a frame battle here) and promiscuity and how bad judgement is. (EDIT: here at some point i teased her and looked at her, and she laughed shyly and looked down.)

#5: another place near the river, where i talk about my city. I tell her to sit closer to me (she does) and i show her a map. She says shes curious, but when i invite her she says, very firmly, that it would a bit too risky and she wants to visit this city. This is where we part ways.

--

Now, ofc she was tight on time and maybe not open for an adventure, but lemme go thru what i noticed real quick.

The whole purpose of the outing was to practice my leading skills (after having ejected too early with another girl previously), but all in all we were together ~1h. Too much now that i think of it. Also, 2-3 bounces would have been enough. I did 5 here including the initial coffee place - def too many and probably in emotional cresting / overgaming territory.

We connected on a number of topics and i touched her quite a bit, also gently grabbing her wrist a few times when i was leading her around. She followed me without questions and the vibe was good until some time during bounce #5, where i felt the energy got lower.

Shes quite religious and this might have played a role. Not sure how "morally strict" orthodox christians are, but probably fairly strict.

I think the highest point in the interaction was at bounce #3, and maybe thats where i should have invited her home.

--

EDIT

I recall i asked for her number before inviting her to my city on bounce #5, and my invite was not strong and confident. Could be that she was not down from the beginning, or could also be that my tentativeness confused her, especially after all the leading i did.

I can also ramp up touch a bit next time around and see whats possible. At some point during bounce #4 i touched her earrings and her neck. She was cool with it, so maybe i could have brushed her hair and touched her more so long as she was comfortable with it. Had she become uncomfortable, i could have just pulled back, winked and smiled at her, and casually continued with the convo as if nothing happened.

 

[Mr.SocialAcceptableHarem]

you probably could have pulled her

try to think back if you were given any escalation windows

my guess is she gave you at least one but you didn't see it

good seducers are given an inch and take 5 inches instead, my feeling is you could have at least kissed her

my reason being is because she was highly compliant with you

 

[Mr.SocialAcceptableHarem]

you probably could have pulled her

try to think back if you were given any escalation windows

my guess is she gave you at least one but you didn't see it

good seducers are given an inch and take 5 inches instead, my feeling is you could have at least kissed her

my reason being is because she was highly compliant with you

this is assuming you had an apartment reasonably close by, you said your city was not this city

now I'm starting to see the big picture,

you were trying to pull but with shit logistics,
so it fell through

last bounce was probably when she gave up on giving you hints and just lowered her energy

I'm telling you 5 bounces means she would have fucked you, if you had found a place to take her

leading that much probably hurt the seduction, it's like:

Q: Why do we switch locations?

A: To buy time to build up SAC, and also the bounce itself builds compliance

You were doing a move that builds compliance when you already had great compliance,
it probably hurt your game just because it wasted energy and left less time to focus on other important things

she gave you - smiles, compliance, cool with touch (compliance and arousal), agree on topics (similarity)

I'm telling you right now you could have done a same-day lay!

obviously not after the last bounce because by then you fucked it up and that's why she said no to visiting your city

but yeah like you said bounce three would have probably worked for the pull

 

[Higher]

Thanks for the feedback @Mr.SocialAcceptableHarem.

Yeah, maybe she felt i was beating around the bush and i should have invited her earlier.

Might have been a case of overgaming or emotional cresting.

 

[Higher]

Cool stuff to play with next time: https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/stickied-esp-model-of-sexual-escalation.792/