Going blank and silent after approaching at clubs

[UnaverageNavy]

I will usually open with something pretty standard like: "Hey how's it going? I just wanted to meet you real quick."

After the opener, I will introduce myself and ask how they know each other but it rarely gets more than a few words out of them.

I then proceed to go into interview mode questions (I try to do assumption statements instead of direct questions) to keep the convo going like what do you do, where you are from etc. but they usually give short answers and the conversation dies. And the big problem with that is then I go completely silent as I have no idea what to talk about so I sit there awkwardly for a bit and just leave.

Now there are instances where the girl will be more interested and keep the conversation going with longer answers but it's been very rare.

Is there any structure/formula I can use so that I don't just run out of things to say and sit there like an idiot? I know that inner game is prioritized but canned lines/structures can really help for me to build that confidence. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Glow]

You need to wake em a lil..

A few tricks on general opening effectiveness:
- Be sure to lock-in properly
- hit them w more chick crack eg Mini-cold-reads
- Instead of focussing on the opener - Amp up the response - you need to react to it a lil w dramatic
- pregame - how is your entrance to the set? how ready do they look? etc
- try to go in with 20% energy lift
- use room game to amp up your social proof - WORK the room first, the set second.
- mingle instead and focus where theres energy (you roll in and out)
- use presence game pre-opening to omit powerful vibes and engage smoothly or with punch
- use body rocking & over the shoulder openers
- dependent on their defensiveness use adjacent sets or other to get them to note you first
- side open 1 vs the whole set
etc etc

oh and
- Be sure to lock-in properly
- Be sure to lock-in properly
- Be sure to lock-in properly
This sends subtle underlying signals to them and everyone and makes or breaks things beyond anything.

Learn to spit game more so that you can riff off responses and shoot more potent stuff initially to ignite them via your responses and followups

 

[Derek da man]

but they usually give short answers and the conversation dies.

When they give a short answer (or even a longer answer) ask an open question based on her response, like "why" or "how" which means she has to explain and give more detail. This shows you're listening and not just asking your standard list of interview questions.

Once she is speaking you nod and show positive responses that you are listening then you can always ask for more clarifications or question her response and lead her in direction you want to go. Also use humor linked to her answer, where appropriate, to break away from her response for a bit before bringing it back to her answer and asking her to go on.

It sounds like you're not really "deep diving" on her responses which would mean conversaiton can continue until you decide to move on or the time is right to escalate.

 

[UnaverageNavy]

You need to wake em a lil..

A few tricks on general opening effectiveness:
- Be sure to lock-in properly
- hit them w more chick crack eg Mini-cold-reads
- Instead of focussing on the opener - Amp up the response - you need to react to it a lil w dramatic
- pregame - how is your entrance to the set? how ready do they look? etc
- try to go in with 20% energy lift
- use room game to amp up your social proof - WORK the room first, the set second.
- mingle instead and focus where theres energy (you roll in and out)
- use presence game pre-opening to omit powerful vibes and engage smoothly or with punch
- use body rocking & over the shoulder openers
- dependent on their defensiveness use adjacent sets or other to get them to note you first
- side open 1 vs the whole set
etc etc

oh and
- Be sure to lock-in properly
- Be sure to lock-in properly
- Be sure to lock-in properly
This sends subtle underlying signals to them and everyone and makes or breaks things beyond anything.

Learn to spit game more so that you can riff off responses and shoot more potent stuff initially to ignite them via your responses and followups

Thank you for the tips.

Could you please explain what you mean by locking in properly?

 

[Glow]

Thank you for the tips.

Could you please explain what you mean by locking in properly?

Sure.

Its about how you position yourself in a set or w a single wolf. How you lock into the set if you will.

You can eg stand outside the set addressing it or you can step more into the set and appear a part of it. Then reallocate. Or take a relaxed posture etc. Old school was to eg open a two set and slide in between them turn and lean against the bar so that it appears that theyre gaming you.

Check how cajun slides into the first set here then lean back w a cool as f vibe

The step in then out/lean back is an extra detail called kino pinging that creates a vacuum they can step into especially if the hook bait is good. its very efficient to use in sets. But thats an extra add to the lock-in.

i can literally decide if your opening-structure will work or not based on how well you lock-in.

Also - with short, lowkey answers focus on your response to her Mellow answer. Amp her answer up a lil to create energy. James corden is massive at it eg when he tells lady gaga "Shut uup!", Creates excitement and drama. be creative w it

Just widening your eyes a lil, a slight back lean and repeating her last 3 words will amp up the energy a lot and wake the set up a lil - then transition with more chick crack to stir emotion.

 

[ElderPrice]

Your post seems built on the premise that if only you say the right things, you'll have successful seductions.

This is not a healthy mindset, nor do I think it works.

You instead need to look bigger picture. For instance, you're probably getting these bored, uninterested responses because of how you come across. Your vibe. Your body language. The impression these girls were taking in as you were walking over. Perhaps they're not going cold because of the things you're saying, but because they had zero interest from the start.

Consider if you instead gave the first impression as a cool, sexy guy (meaning, before you even say a word), then you could open and say standard, boring stuff like you mentioned, and you'd get results.

The idea of building a strong presence, or vibe, or impression, or whatever you want to call it, is the main idea behind what Glow is talking about. All these details and all this work you can do before opening can help you appear cool and interesting so you don't get uninterested girls every time.

You're making yourself look interesting and attractive. Then you don't have to discover some magic string of things to say to do the seducing for you - something that probably doesn't exist anyway.