FR Gym Crush Approach FLOPP

[Suavesito]

Hey guys, been a while since I've posted any reports on here but now that the dry spell is once again in full effect, I find myself delving deeper and deeper in the forums and GC articles trying to pinpoint my issues and seeing how I can be the beast I once was. It wasn't long ago that the mentality I conveyed with women was one of extreme abundance and believing I had the ability to get with any girl I met. I had literally transformed my mind to believe this, and I give huge credit to a Hector Castillo article where he mentioned you need to believe you're the greatest thing and the best possible man for any girl you meet (something like that). Anyways, I've been approaching a ton more but I know that the reason I'm not seeing success is that my approaches and vibes have been extremely tentative, acting a bit soft and not putting into practice what's in my mind. It's brutal....I know exactly what to do and how to do it, but I find myself stuttering and not conveying shit with dominance and force. Gets me so heated, anyways, I bring this up in case anyone had something similar and can help your boy out...now back to the FR.

Long story short, I had been big time crushing on this one girl from my gym for the past like 3 months and it was the typical gym crush meme to where it got to the point that we would just smile at each other every time we're at the gym and not say hi or anything. I don't even know if she has a bf or what (doesn't matter), but anyways I hit the gym today and she stares at me while se walks in and gives me the cutest smile so I tell myself I need to say or do something. We're working out and she's doing a nearly identical back/bi workout near me so I like wave her over and I tell her (jokingly and to demonstrate superiority) that it looks like she's copying my gym routine and she might as well just ask me for my regimen. She didn't really understand what I said (I dont think I said it properly!) and I clarified and then we were in like an awkward silence. I then pull out of my ass "I charge alot for it by the way" and she goes "I bet" and we go back to working out. Literally the shittiest approach/attempt at speaking to a girl. Just didn't feel right to talk to her at the gym during sets, with headphones, etc so I don't know. Looking back, I give myself credit for at least saying words to her but still feel fucking rattled for the shitty attempt to speak to her. Wanted anyone's thoughts cause it's pissing me off and I gotta elevate the game somehow, but again all help/criticism is appreciated. Cheers!

-Suavesito

 

[Chase]

@Suavesito,

Nice work breaking the 3-month ice on that girl. Those ones can be difficult.

With this:

so I like wave her over and I tell her (jokingly and to demonstrate superiority) that it looks like she's copying my gym routine and she might as well just ask me for my regimen. She didn't really understand what I said (I dont think I said it properly!) and I clarified and then we were in like an awkward silence.

You're always going to be better rolling into a completely different opener if the first one failed to click, rather than repeat the first. It's fresher, gives you another chance to hit, and it gets you out of repeating yourself, which is a bad frame to be in.

So that'd be like:

YOU: Looks like you're copying my gym routine. You may as just ask me for it!​

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HER: Huh?​

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YOU: Anyway, I wanted to ask you something, because I always see you here so I figure I can trust you. By the way, what are you going for, sleek and svelte or are you actually trying to build strength?​

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HER: Oh I'm just trying to stay in-shape, blah blah​

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YOU: Yeah this is kind of the perfect workout for that. I like wearing these tight button-down shirts when I go out and I feel like if I got my back too huge I'd be getting rips in them all the time.​

Etc.

Just switch to something that sounds gym-related, then interrupt yourself and leave that as an open loop so you can move off the gym topics ASAP (e.g., going out shirts, get to talking about going out, what you do for fun, hobbies, etc.).

Then if she asks what was the favor later you can just say oh right in about 7 minutes I need to run and take a call but I was hoping I could just leave my water bottle and my stuff here and if you'll be around here you could just keep an eye on it and make sure it doesn't wander off maybe?

Also, on that opener, accusing girls of stuff (e.g., copying you) is a ballsy high-risk opener. If it hits the girl can be really into it, but a lot of the time if it isn't delivered perfectly girls won't know how to take it, may feel like you are actually accusing them of something, etc. Personally I try to stay away from accusation openers... even if you're trying to be funny they just go right over girls' heads too often and you get that "Huh?" or "Oh... sorry" reaction, that never quite warms up when you tell them you were just kidding.

Next time you see her just treat her like as if you're old friends. Wave "hey what's up, how's the training? Cool, that's excellent" then jump into your workout. If she's giving you signals then you just wave her over like you did again and ask her "So whatcha workin' on today?" "Going for sleekness or going for strength?" "Do you use it for anything? I used to know this car show model and she was always in the gym." Etc.

Meantime, see if you can't squeeze a few more approaches in to a few other girls outside the gym!

Chase

 

[Suavesito]

@Chase,

First off I want to sincerely thank you for the incredible information you've gifted the readers of GirlsChase. It's awesome you commented on this because (from afar) I've learned so much from you and have so many of your articles bookmarked; I always keep them on the back-burners whenever I feel like I need to reinforce something or just to get a reinvigorated attitude out in this crazy world of attracting women.

And secondly, I really appreciate the advice. I completely agree, I should've stayed calm and just diverted to some other extremely lowkey gym topic like you mentioned as it beats just sitting there in silence.

Funny enough, I ended up seeing her the next two days at the gym and I did exactly the "treat her as an old friend approach". I told her something along the lines of "Yesterday I was completely messing around with you and think my joke just flew over your head, but I keep seeing you killing it here at the gym so I had to say hi." We had a great conversation, super interesting girl and even cuter up close (hoping to get even closer!) Towards the end of the conversation, I actually threw a similar joke to her after she mentions to me "Are you working out back and bis again today?" I said: "I already told you my regimen is crazy expensive!" And then we messed around with each other about whose regimen is more difficult, etc.

Question for you and anyone else who happens to read this post: I feel like I am comfortably in the acquaintance zone where we're saying hi to each other every time and little small talk. Last gym session I actually felt her trying to get my attention when I walked in, but I pretended to be extra focused and not see her. I ended up waving later, and she made sure to say bye to me when she was leaving (SIDE NOTE: that extra bye seemed extra, should I look anything into it? I'm kind of looking too deep into it, but I feel like there has to be some validity or interest on her part to reciprocate the engagement. For example, if she had a bf I feel like she wouldn't really do anything just a hi and bye). I'm thinking next step is ask her for coffee or go somewhere outside of gym. I'm inclining towards the direct "Gym buddy, my calendar says this week you're inviting me to a delicious iced coffee?" (Ballsy I know but the result can be great) or "My friends and I are going out to X town or bar Friday, I think it's best I change it up and bring my gym buddy...You in? Make sure to bring your cutest single girlfriends."

As always, all thoughts and opinions are appreciated. Feel like I'm back on a rising wave (despite like no success) because I'm approaching left and right; I still feel like my fundamentals are off, but I want to rack up approaches and learn/tweak to become invincible. Cheers!

-Suavesito