Gym Openers and i'm alive

[William Wallace]

So first question any good gym opener there was a girl from the gym that was staring at me i felt i had seen her before at school years earlier where she also stared at me lol. anyways i felt some sexual tension i think. but in the end gym openers i've heard you shoulden't start with you look nice etc or style.

Nothing much have changed about me i think ive found out that what i'm best at is roleplay with the women though that's only talking to the internet.

i was meant to train on women in the summer and i had one chance to hang out with a girl at the gym who i asked to help me show an exercise and she sounded very happy to hang out or something.

i know of a so called ¨natural¨ in the area in sweden where i'm going the summer and perhaps he can help me out.

so this is the plan if i don't get a job.
Option B would be to start an dating app but you guys tell me there terrible but it might be a good idea for just getting used to texting? and perhaps basic female interaction in real life hahahaha

ive signed up to a dating website which i won't mention other then that's for ¨traditional¨ people

 

[DarkKnight]

Haha I still get amused that a lot of people think that opening in gyms is super hard and such. It is actually very situational and quite easy. Good for you for taking the leap

 

[William Wallace]

Haha I still get amused that a lot of people think that opening in gyms is super hard and such. It is actually very situational and quite easy. Good for you for taking the leap

yeah but that was way back in the summer. so different girls

but i i had on these month earlier that looked like a girl i would ask out based on looks. 8/10 looks perfect height for me etc i switched gym so i won't be able to see her anymore though but in case a situation like this happens again.

 

[Lantern]

I came up with a potential gym opener very recently, but I haven't had the opportunity to use it yet.

In short: you approach a girl nearby where you're working out with your phone in your hand and go:
"Hey, could you help me out with something?"
"Ok?"
"Can you record me on my phone while I do my next set? So I can check my form."

In most cases all girls would probably help you with this.

Then, you'd need to make a call based on the way she reacts with you about how to move on. If she's all smiles and friendly, you can use this moment to continue talking with her and congrats, you opened. If her vibe is she'll help you but she's not happy that you're interuppting her or whatever, well, at least you can check your form.

 

[William Wallace]

I came up with a potential gym opener very recently, but I haven't had the opportunity to use it yet.

In short: you approach a girl nearby where you're working out with your phone in your hand and go:
"Hey, could you help me out with something?"
"Ok?"
"Can you record me on my phone while I do my next set? So I can check my form."

In most cases all girls would probably help you with this.

Then, you'd need to make a call based on the way she reacts with you about how to move on. If she's all smiles and friendly, you can use this moment to continue talking with her and congrats, you opened. If her vibe is she'll help you but she's not happy that you're interuppting her or whatever, well, at least you can check your form.

yeah lol i got a couple of guys i can send it to as well

 

[Gaturro]

I came up with a potential gym opener very recently, but I haven't had the opportunity to use it yet.

In short: you approach a girl nearby where you're working out with your phone in your hand and go:
"Hey, could you help me out with something?"
"Ok?"
"Can you record me on my phone while I do my next set? So I can check my form."

In most cases all girls would probably help you with this.

Then, you'd need to make a call based on the way she reacts with you about how to move on. If she's all smiles and friendly, you can use this moment to continue talking with her and congrats, you opened. If her vibe is she'll help you but she's not happy that you're interuppting her or whatever, well, at least you can check your form.

tell her you didnt bring your phone with you / your phone is dead / something like that so she has to send it to you. and now you have her number / instagram

(instagram is even better so you can screen out girls with boyfriends etc unless your instagram is low value)

with the girl from the OP you could’ve just said what you told us.. “hey.. felt i had seen you before at school years earlier” and boom you already opened

 

[William Wallace]

tell her you didnt bring your phone with you / your phone is dead / something like that so she has to send it to you. and now you have her number / instagram

(instagram is even better so you can screen out girls with boyfriends etc unless your instagram is low value)

with the girl from the OP you could’ve just said what you told us.. “hey.. felt i had seen you before at school years earlier” and boom you already opened

Yeah Thanks i should have done that lol. uhm yeah i don't use social media really so that ain't an option.

 

[POB]

Haha I still get amused that a lot of people think that opening in gyms is super hard and such. It is actually very situational and quite easy. Good for you for taking the leap

Opening is easy, the problem is closing (because of pure social pressure, she does not want to be seen as the "gym slut").
This is why it's better to keep it low profile and try to set insta dates outside of that environment.
Then you can game her and use secret society stuff as the primary weapon.

 

[DarkKnight]

Opening is easy, the problem is closing (because of pure social pressure, she does not want to be seen as the "gym slut").
This is why it's better to keep it low profile and try to set insta dates outside of that environment.
Then you can game her and use secret society stuff as the primary weapon.

I know and yet I have brought quite some girls from the gym to bed. Funny thing is a couple of girls were so into me that they tried to set up logistics, which were horribly wrong LOL! In a way that too is cute. But I do agree with you, in gyms with lots of social circle dynamics, it gets much harder. Girls who like you put up much more resistance, but in other gyms (I tend to shuffle gyms for this reason!) where people are more on their own it becomes easier. Had girls compete for me on multiple occassions. What I discovered was that every gym has it's own culture, but when there are more social circle players around and more regulars.. then it barely becomes feasible. You can still get girls but not worth the hassle/slow game. In the gyms with social circles, it tends to revolve around a couple of girls who behave like queen bees or BECOME queen bees due to orbitors, despite not being that special, but those guys that are around them are thirsty as fuck! Those girls in their turn again get very frustrated with me, because I am untameable. I can write a novel about this shit by now.

The real danger in my book with gym game is when male competition becomes too aware of you. I kid you not, when there is a new girl around and you are about to open her, they do crazy things like hover around you. I had to intimidate quite some fellas to mind their business. Or backturn them, grab the girl by the arm "hey lets check this out". A lot of wannabe amogs who cannot open in or game a girl in a suave manner.

And also you never know. I recall I met this girl who went into competitions of bodybuilding or something similar. And a friend of mine was very intimidated by her, also because she talked with this big muscle bound "intimidating" looking guy. I asked him a couple of basic questions as in does he ever touch her, do they ever come or leave together. All replies were negatieve. So I approached the girl and loo and behold. She was lonely as fuck.

I have never understood the stigma on skilled seducer by some users that the gym is some kind of impossible arena.

 

[Beck Bass]

Those girls in their turn again get very frustrated with me, because I am untameable. I can write a novel about this shit by now.

Lol that would be a good read

Or backturn them, grab the girl by the arm "hey lets check this out". A lot of wannabe amogs who cannot open in or game a girl in a suave manner.

Yup, I didn't even open a girl in the gym yet and just getting some harder IoIs from some girls already gets some guys fucking defensive... You can tell they have no game, but they think they can intimidate you into not getting pussy either (as if it's gonna help them... It's kinda sad, they just get triggered because some of them have been working out and taking the gym seriously for years, and still can't get pussy from a dead cat)

I have never understood the stigma on skilled seducer by some users that the gym is some kind of impossible arena.

I don't think it's impossible, it's just a bit... daunting, because lots of people go there only to do their sets and mind their own business, you do see some people talking, but it's mostly to people they already know, or "can I use this machine?" type of stuff. If you're a regular at a gym and like it there, as well, you don't wanna get rejected left and right by girls (I think Chase wrote on an article some guy he knew got banned from a gym for approaching every girl there)... I think with the whole "me too" thing nowadays, the anxiety is even more real, guys rather approach girls in places they don't go to too often, or places they go to just for that (as going to the gym improves your fundamentals anyways, so it's easy to feel good even if you don't approach any girl there, just for going, thus even more hesitation)...
I don't think it's a matter of the game being hard, it's more convincing yourself to play in the first place, guys want some magic bullet because it feels like a high risk environment (again, remember the buff guys that get no pussy, if it was that easy, they wouldn't exist)

 

[DarkKnight]

Yup, I didn't even open a girl in the gym yet and just getting some harder IoIs from some girls already gets some guys fucking defensive... You can tell they have no game, but they think they can intimidate you into not getting pussy either (as if it's gonna help them... It's kinda sad, they just get triggered because some of them have been working out and taking the gym seriously for years, and still can't get pussy from a dead cat)

Problem is they know I am getting around, so they want to disrupt things. I have even had to put some guys pre-emptively in place because I know they want to be disruptive. Or I am sitting with a girl and guy comes around trying to be loud dropping dumbells and dumb shit and I already tell the girl "he will try to disrupt us, ignoring him, he is lonely and frustrated" in a callous way. I even had staff members (male) trying to interrupt me and I had to make remarks like "hey, you are kind of bothering your clientele right now, can we get some privacy here?". HELL I had female staff members trying to cockblock me by hardcore engaging the girl I am gaming because they were interested themselves.

I am however very adapt at handling disruptors. I tend to be decisive when it happens, call people out when they are fucking around. I do not owe anyone lenience with which they can disrupt my goals.

Lol that would be a good read

Haha.. back in 2020 the chat at night was usually me talking about the mayhem I was causing.. then the fucking lockdowns came... My vibe was so KILLER back then. I am still good but in those days I was primed to the T.

I don't think it's impossible, it's just a bit... daunting, because lots of people go there only to do their sets and mind their own business, you do see some people talking, but it's mostly to people they already know, or "can I use this machine?" type of stuff. If you're a regular at a gym and like it there, as well, you don't wanna get rejected left and right by girls

Then don;t get "rejected" . Talk tot hem when "passing by". That's what I do. I am "suddenly" at a machine next to them because it was the next thing I wanted to do! (bullshit ofc.) I tend to use plausible deniability. Also you do not immediately need to hard close do neo-direct as we call it these days. There are better ways..

People also tend to give way too much power to the environment. It is the story as old as the hills: "What will people think? ". We need to be our own authority instead of putting the frame into the hands of random people around us who we owe zero to.

 

[sab]

The gym I go to, it's a almost a girl desert. Maybe 20 dudes for 1 girl. It's even rare to see a really good looking one. I must be in the wrong gym or wrong place.

 

[DarkKnight]

The gym I go to, it's a almost a girl desert. Maybe 20 dudes for 1 girl. It's even rare to see a really good looking one. I must be in the wrong gym or wrong place.

Wrong gym wrong place.

 

[Beck Bass]

Then don;t get "rejected" . Talk tot hem when "passing by". That's what I do. I am "suddenly" at a machine next to them because it was the next thing I wanted to do! (bullshit ofc.) I tend to use plausible deniability. Also you do not immediately need to hard close do neo-direct as we call it these days. There are better ways..

Yep, be low key cool and shit... It bothers me though that I have to use the mask at the gym, meanwhile I can go to night clubs and bars and none is using them (it feels off)

"hey, you are kind of bothering your clientele right now, can we get some privacy here?". HELL I had female staff members trying to cockblock me by hardcore engaging the girl I am gaming because they were interested themselves.

That's annoying af lol, but yeah, don't let people walk over you (though this people have a bit of authority there, so I get how they can be a pain)

The gym I go to, it's a almost a girl desert. Maybe 20 dudes for 1 girl. It's even rare to see a really good looking one. I must be in the wrong gym or wrong place.

You should try switching, man, I dunno if I would even be going to the gym if it wasn't for the hotties there... Though it can be a bit distracting (it's cool though because I'm not THAT focused on getting a great body, as much as I just wanna work more on my posture, lose a few pounds and get a bit social with fit girls)

 

[pancakemouse]

The gym I go to, it's a almost a girl desert. Maybe 20 dudes for 1 girl. It's even rare to see a really good looking one. I must be in the wrong gym or wrong place.

Same with my gym back in Oakland. But Planet Fitness, for example, will have even more girls than guys in a lot of cities. Totally depends on the gym and the location.

 

[Skills]

I am still a gym virgin..... now mrs. skills is not.... She said usually how it happened with her was:

- gym group usually crossfit and orange theory types
-gym would have a social media page were they went to different activities together.
-group classes and the likes...


the other dude i seen doing cold approach was @Phoenix opener:

-"i have not seen you here before"

^ gym are so highly meh for pick up, but anyways kudos for the guys that like it and do it, i don't see the point, my gym is also a sausage fest... and the guys that try to hit on mrs skills line is "where is your husband" lame...

 

[Skjöldr]

the guys that try to hit on mrs skills line is "where is your husband" lame...

Well that's a pretty good way of flirting and showing intent to her. Maybe not opening with it. I have thought about saying that before like "You know i always see you working out alone, does your boyfriend not like working out with you? "

 

[POB]

But I do agree with you, in gyms with lots of social circle dynamics, it gets much harder. Girls who like you put up much more resistance, but in other gyms (I tend to shuffle gyms for this reason!) where people are more on their own it becomes easier. Had girls compete for me on multiple occassions. What I discovered was that every gym has it's own culture, but when there are more social circle players around and more regulars.. then it barely becomes feasible. You can still get girls but not worth the hassle/slow game. In the gyms with social circles, it tends to revolve around a couple of girls who behave like queen bees or BECOME queen bees due to orbitors, despite not being that special, but those guys that are around them are thirsty as fuck!

This is very much my experience, you are spot on.

And also you never know. I recall I met this girl who went into competitions of bodybuilding or something similar. And a friend of mine was very intimidated by her, also because she talked with this big muscle bound "intimidating" looking guy. I asked him a couple of basic questions as in does he ever touch her, do they ever come or leave together. All replies were negatieve. So I approached the girl and loo and behold. She was lonely as fuck.

Female competitors are lonely by nature.
Most of the muscular guys around those chicks either have very strict GFs or friendzone themselves because they are are just bad at game.
I guarantee that if the gym hottie is not in the first magical months of a new relationship with a guy she likes, she is probably up for grabs
(even if married).

I have never understood the stigma on skilled seducer by some users that the gym is some kind of impossible arena.

Not impossible...like you said, once you understand the dynamics things make much more sense.

 

[DarkKnight]

I was reading the article of Chase about the charisma breakdown of John Wayne and he writes this:

Wayne's movements are deliberate, but not slow. There's a certain wiry energy to them that implies he's energetic but controlled ->

THIS is what those body building types usually seem to lack. Their big, slow encumbered movements , I have suspected for a long time that this makes them suck with game. Imagine having a body which is massive and taxing. So you are actually saving energy without even knowing it which makes you slow and passive. I do not have science behind this but just my gut feeling. Compare this to the football player (I refuse to call it soccer lol), or the basketball player who is more explosive in his movements. Or the hybrid like Christiano Ronaldo. We immediately know that the last group is probably better with girls.

So these bodybuilder types walk around and use amog tactics, but something is just off. I find it hard to pinpoint. They just seem to occupy the room (or the benchpress) instead of partake.

 

[Skills]

Well that's a pretty good way of flirting and showing intent to her. Maybe not opening with it. I have thought about saying that before like "You know i always see you working out alone, does your boyfriend not like working out with you? "

Correct. Your follow the same pattern I use... post opener, that is no what that dude did, see the difference..