Handling Fundamentals Discovery

[trashKENNUT]

Handling Fundamentals and Move Fast, Auto Rejection.

I have been watching over myself and the body language i have been portraying unconsciously. Been able to remove some not so good habits.

Apparently I been able to get attention when i am in state control, relax and walking like a sexy man.

The bad side of things, i got shut down fast. When i mean fast, i mean REALLY FAST. It's like sometimes she would glance and there's that smile, and gleaming look on her face, and i said Hi. Some got overwhelm, some just shut down, on recent saturday, was out for search of electronic items, and sales staff was mostly ladies. and i'm like decided to click into a gear although i was there for a short time, Manage to meet a cute staff, apparently she was overwhelm with the people there, and it's like crazy, I got her gleaming look but i decided to U-turn, something of a habit that i need to get rid off.

Nevertheless, Great discovery.

Hope you guys have thoughts, your fundamentals? Tell me though.

Zac

 

[Eric]

Few tweaks here and there that make you a warmer person and prevent quick auto-rejection

1) Speak less
Use more facial expressions or one word responses. Smirk and say "hah, really?" to stories. Use hand motions to call women over during the beginning stages of interaction, gets compliance and reduces that instant blow-off. The less you speak it seems like, the more it makes the other person invest in you by speaking. This is great with worker girls. Finger them over and then get them to help you or w/e. Ask if they are single etc.

2) Don't be intimidating
Relax your eyes, and slowly give a really warm smile. Eliminate as much screening as possible and control your social pressure (or use it to stop her from running away). Make this a habit, do it to your grandma.

3) Strive to be kind
Similar to the above, be a kind person. Opposite the problem nice guys have, bad boys have to learn to be kind. This takes work, but once you become kind + sexy you become great. Receive all gifts girls give you (within reason) and don't feel guilty about it. Be elated when you receive compliments. I'll throw my hands in the air sometimes just so I'll make the other person feel good even though it requires a lot of energy. Compliment more, and focus conversation on the other person

4) Eliminate bad nuances
This won't help with instant auto-rejections but will make you a warmer person. I eliminated most of the word No when speaking. I also eliminated stories and telling my hobbies. When a girl asks what I do with my free time I just tell her I watch TV (hardly..). Again you'll find girls bragging to you but having to suck it in, like a girl telling you how she had a nice hotel room or she borrowed an ID tag to get through to VIP or w/e. You did the same thing at the same event without actually having a pass, or having a friend who works there sneak you in.

5) Make fun of your small penis (and other stuff)
This one is self-deprecation, and gets a laugh while making you look confident and humble.

6) Pre-selection / Pre-openings
These will help you from preventing getting blown off completely or at least relax her a little. If I say Hi directly I typically get a stutter "...Hhhi". It's better to kind of just notice her after she notices you (this is why it's better to practice approaches starting from the side). Pre-selection would be having another girl with you talking to you and she leaves, then you open the new girl.

7) WORK FAST
Your windows tend to become incredibly small, and women expect you to be powerful and to move them FAST. When you don't it destroys those feelings and makes them wait.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Hi omgosh,

5) Make fun of your small penis (and other stuff)

It's a good idea, but you find something general to gauge if she's uncomfortable.

Your windows tend to become incredibly small, and women expect you to be powerful and to move them FAST. When you don't it destroys those feelings and makes them wait.

Yeap, the window is as small as it gets.

Zac

 

[MonsieurLabrie]

Few tweaks here and there that make you a warmer person and prevent quick auto-rejection

1) Speak less
Use more facial expressions or one word responses. Smirk and say "hah, really?" to stories. Use hand motions to call women over during the beginning stages of interaction, gets compliance and reduces that instant blow-off. The less you speak it seems like, the more it makes the other person invest in you by speaking. This is great with worker girls. Finger them over and then get them to help you or w/e. Ask if they are single etc.

2) Don't be intimidating
Relax your eyes, and slowly give a really warm smile. Eliminate as much screening as possible and control your social pressure (or use it to stop her from running away). Make this a habit, do it to your grandma.

3) Strive to be kind
Similar to the above, be a kind person. Opposite the problem nice guys have, bad boys have to learn to be kind. This takes work, but once you become kind + sexy you become great. Receive all gifts girls give you (within reason) and don't feel guilty about it. Be elated when you receive compliments. I'll throw my hands in the air sometimes just so I'll make the other person feel good even though it requires a lot of energy. Compliment more, and focus conversation on the other person

4) Eliminate bad nuances
This won't help with instant auto-rejections but will make you a warmer person. I eliminated most of the word No when speaking. I also eliminated stories and telling my hobbies. When a girl asks what I do with my free time I just tell her I watch TV (hardly..). Again you'll find girls bragging to you but having to suck it in, like a girl telling you how she had a nice hotel room or she borrowed an ID tag to get through to VIP or w/e. You did the same thing at the same event without actually having a pass, or having a friend who works there sneak you in.

5) Make fun of your small penis (and other stuff)
This one is self-deprecation, and gets a laugh while making you look confident and humble.

Very solid advice from OMGosh.

When you are actively working on fundamentals, there's this time period where you come off as really intense and intimidating. Some women will be scared and others will take this as posturing or "fronting", so the results are not so good at first. After that phase, you just learn to relax into your new sexiness and realize that you don't need to do that much at all. The less mental space your fundamentals require, the better.

Usually for me I just walk somewhere and think only "shoulders back, chest out" and I'm good for the rest of the night.

When I go talk to a girl, it's usually: "do the minimum to get her to talk, then shut up!"

The only time I met Sebastian Drake, he had an aura of cool amusement about everything. It was like nothing could throw him off and he would laugh at rejection. It took me a while, but I almost have it now. Girls don't need the intensity. The thing they find most sexy is the relaxed state. This is why you hear so many stories about hot guys who can't handle women. They just don't have the "cool factor" and blow up with the girls they really like.

How you train yourself to get this vibe? --> https://www.girlschase.com/content/absolute-abundance

 

[trashKENNUT]

Hi MonsieurLabrie,

It took me a while, but I almost have it now. Girls don't need the intensity. The thing they find most sexy is the relaxed state. This is why you hear so many stories about hot guys who can't handle women. They just don't have the "cool factor" and blow up with the girls they really like.

Thanks for the insight. Will take notice.

Zac,

 

[trashKENNUT]

BUMP

 

[silenceinthesnow]

A couple months late to the party but I call that being fashionable.

Key point to remember is fundamentals don't guarantee results, only provide better odds. Sometimes its not your night and we all have a bad game every now and then. Sometimes I think you can shoot yourself in the foot with fundamentals because you can quickly put yourself out of a girls league and she'll auto reject you for it. I've recently made a post in the general forum about being cautious using the deep dive, I think I've managed to move myself from lover to boyfriend material because I was able to hold a good interaction and get the girls to invest. This creates intimacy, which makes them want to hold onto you. RESULT: Slower game.

Fundamentals can give you a lot more opportunities but can also cast of girls that perceive your value as to high. Alternatively it could be your style, you could be in tremendous shape and dress well but if they don't go for muscles you won't succeed. However relating to the OP don't let approach anxiety get in the way, start to play and keep the interaction going as long as you can, every failed attempt gives valuable experience and every once in a while it might even work!

SilenceintheSnow

 

[trashKENNUT]

sm,

A couple months late to the party but I call that being fashionable.

Key point to remember is fundamentals don't guarantee results, only provide better odds. Sometimes its not your night and we all have a bad game every now and then. Sometimes I think you can shoot yourself in the foot with fundamentals because you can quickly put yourself out of a girls league and she'll auto reject you for it. I've recently made a post in the general forum about being cautious using the deep dive, I think I've managed to move myself from lover to boyfriend material because I was able to hold a good interaction and get the girls to invest. This creates intimacy, which makes them want to hold onto you. RESULT: Slower game.

Fundamentals can give you a lot more opportunities but can also cast of girls that perceive your value as to high. Alternatively it could be your style, you could be in tremendous shape and dress well but if they don't go for muscles you won't succeed. However relating to the OP don't let approach anxiety get in the way, start to play and keep the interaction going as long as you can, every failed attempt gives valuable experience and every once in a while it might even work!

Many great points. Won't deny that it got me thinking about it also.

Zac

 

[trashKENNUT]

BUMP 2

p.s: By the way, many old post have gone missing I think. I'm not speaking for just me but hopefully we can salvage a lot of great post from 2012 till now.

*Found it. But only by search then it unveils.