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Having LTR (and kids as well) with a career oriented girl while I am not a career oriented person myself

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I have had a realised I don't have any career orientation.

Though I have a good job and got a great degree. I would rather quit it and would be fine at living bare minimum.

Yet I want to marry a professional and high achieving girl.

I have hooked up with these and rope them in relationship as well.

But I want to marry them and have kids a lot of them.

But I want her to be provider and I want to enjoy my life spend it on hobbies and rasing kids.

What is the best way to go about it in light of this article.

 

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I have had a realised I don't have any career orientation.

Though I have a good job and got a great degree. I would rather quit it and would be fine at living bare minimum.

Yet I want to marry a professional and high achieving girl.

I have hooked up with these and rope them in relationship as well.

But I want to marry them and have kids a lot of them.

But I want her to be provider and I want to enjoy my life spend it on hobbies and rasing kids.

What is the best way to go about it in light of this article.


Date older washed up women that have baby rabies and never settled down because they were too focused on their careers or picking bad mates

Chances you will get very attractive and younger women, that have access to high quality mates sign up for something like that are slim to none
 

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What @TomInHo said.

32-35 year old that lives for her career and doesn’t want to leave it but wants to tick the child box off the list.

She’ll likely be checking the husband box off the list too, so make sure you have your Resumé in check and a story ready to explain away any gaps in employment ;)
 

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What @TomInHo said.

32-35 year old that lives for her career and doesn’t want to leave it but wants to tick the child box off the list.

She’ll likely be checking the husband box off the list too, so make sure you have your Resumé in check and a story ready to explain away any gaps in employment ;)

Also will be smart to knock those girls up fast and marry without a prenup before they come to their senses
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

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There nothing different you need to do seduce and make her fall in love you like you do with any other girl
.. look at my post on how to go into a proper relationship...
 

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There nothing different you need to do seduce and make her fall in love you like you do with any other girl
.. look at my post on how to go into a proper relationship...

Idk about this, man.

A 35-year-old man dating a 21-year-old woman who has money and is providing for him long-term is going to be very unusual.

I don’t know many relationships where a man can pull something like this off for the long term. It might work for a few years, but most young, attractive women in demand aren’t likely to want to support a man in this way.

During the honeymoon period, sure, but when it comes to marriage and raising kids, things change.

Even if you’re dating a career-oriented young woman, she’ll still be in the building phase of her career. She likely won’t have the resources to take care of a man and raise kids at the same time.

And if she does have kids, it’s going to slow down her career growth—so what happens when she has to take maternity leave? Who is going to support the family?

Realistically, most younger women aren’t in a life stage or possess the resources where they can make this work

But for older women it's a different story

There’s a reason why women who use gigolo services tend to be middle-aged or older. They have established resources, stability, and no longer rely on a man for financial security.

This dynamic also aligns with the trope of a rich husband being replaced by the pool boy or personal trainer—like what happened with Tom Brady and Gisele Bündchen. She and her new judo boyfriend are now expecting their first child together, and she’s 44.

I’m not saying it’s impossible for @empath to make something like this happen, but it’s important to go into it with realistic expectations about what’s likely and what will have a higher success rate.
 
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I have had a realised I don't have any career orientation.

Though I have a good job and got a great degree. I would rather quit it and would be fine at living bare minimum.

Yet I want to marry a professional and high achieving girl.

I have hooked up with these and rope them in relationship as well.

But I want to marry them and have kids a lot of them.

But I want her to be provider and I want to enjoy my life spend it on hobbies and rasing kids.

What is the best way to go about it in light of this article.

I believe in you.
 

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Done it multiple times with girls of all ages...so if op wants to listen to me and field test up to him
Tell me. I want to have kids, if they leave after having the babies its fine.


So you have kids as well or you are talking about an LTR.
 

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Idk about this, man.

A 35-year-old man dating a 21-year-old woman who has money and is providing for him long-term is going to be very unusual.

I don’t know many relationships where a man can pull something like this off for the long term. It might work for a few years, but most young, attractive women in demand aren’t likely to want to support a man in this way.

During the honeymoon period, sure, but when it comes to marriage and raising kids, things change.

Even if you’re dating a career-oriented young woman, she’ll still be in the building phase of her career. She likely won’t have the resources to take care of a man and raise kids at the same time.

And if she does have kids, it’s going to slow down her career growth—so what happens when she has to take maternity leave? Who is going to support the family?

Realistically, most younger women aren’t in a life stage or possess the resources where they can make this work

But for older women it's a different story

There’s a reason why women who use gigolo services tend to be middle-aged or older. They have established resources, stability, and no longer rely on a man for financial security.

This dynamic also aligns with the trope of a rich husband being replaced by the pool boy or personal trainer—like what happened with Tom Brady and Gisele Bündchen. She and her new judo boyfriend are now expecting their first child together, and she’s 44.

I’m not saying it’s impossible for @empath to make something like this happen, but it’s important to go into it with realistic expectations about what’s likely and what will have a higher success rate.

An Idea I have is to bait and switch which I don't want to do but I don't mind if I don't find a win-win solution for both of us.

Bait and switch as in keep job and show her I am career orientied until I knock her and have kids. Then after it just say I don't want to work now so you provide for kids I will see things for myself.

Also, tricking her parents would be tough.
 

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An Idea I have is to bait and switch which I don't want to do but I don't mind if I don't find a win-win solution for both of us.

Bait and switch as in keep job and show her I am career orientied until I knock her and have kids. Then after it just say I don't want to work now so you provide for kids I will see things for myself.

Also, tricking her parents would be tough.
Right idea but you don't say i don't want to work... You need to re frame it as quiting and working on future project or biz... There is no need to trick parents...
 

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An Idea I have is to bait and switch which I don't want to do but I don't mind if I don't find a win-win solution for both of us.

Bait and switch as in keep job and show her I am career orientied until I knock her and have kids. Then after it just say I don't want to work now so you provide for kids I will see things for myself.

That could create challenges in the long term

She would have married you also factoring in that you are career oriented like her. If you just tell her you don't want to work while she provides for you this might lead to tensions down the road

Right idea but you don't say i don't want to work... You need to re frame it as quiting and working on future project or biz...

Yes but how long will she wait for him to get his life together?

He wants to quit and not work at all. Not give the illusion he is hustling and trying to get his life back on track

She might give him time but if he doesn't bounce back at all and has zero income chances of conflict will be extremely high. Because he is not the man she was attracted to in the first place

That might work in the short term, but it could lead to issues later on

Tell me. I want to have kids, if they leave after having the babies its fine.

If the woman leaves after you have kids you will probably have to get back in the work force. This might complicate your initial goal of having a woman support you while raising kids

Unless you married a woman that makes enough money that can support you

For example.... Kevin Federline was able to get support from Britney spears when they got a divorce. But that was child support and not alimony

He only got that money because he had custody of their kids

Getting custody of kids as a father is challenging, as courts often favor mothers unless they are able to prove the kids will be better raised in their household compared to the woman

And this only tends to happen if the woman has psychological issues or addiction that court will see her as unfit to raise children healthily


So you have kids as well or you are talking about an LTR.

He doesn't have any kids to my knowledge. But you can definitely get in relationships were the woman is the breadwinner

Guys without money can date women that make more and have fun relationships.

But once you add in factors like marriage, having kids and also the man never having to work some more practical things of the situation need to be addressed to make it work long term
 
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Tell me. I want to have kids, if they leave after having the babies its fine.
I have no interest in kids, i do it with animals, kids is 50 times more powerful than an animal...
So you have kids as well or you are talking about an LTR.
does not matter the relationship style... The relationship style you are looking for i called it the nanny on the post (for the life of me don't understand why this autistic goal) :

 
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Right idea but you don't say i don't want to work... You need to re frame it as quiting and working on future project or biz... There is no need to trick parents...
Need to trick parents cause I am aiming for significantly weathier family than mine. Famalies are kinda big thing in marriage in India.

Achivement oriented cause my kids will have 50% chance to be achivers.

Well I am look after myself. I just don't have the kind of education and house my partner will require given her background.

So Yeah I can do either nanny.

Or a sort of traveller guy who sees kids few times in a year whatever she will want after marriage or support her in her biz etc. if her family got one.

Bait and switch seems like the way to go and then popping few kids quickly.

Will probably need to screen her views on abortion.
 

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My ex was super carrer-oriented.
Basically what @Skills said...seduce her like any other chick.
If they like you, they'll manage.

Only caveat is that carrer-oriented chicks usually don't want to have kids.
Or if they do, it's just to check the box, so they stop on the first one and go back to focus on their jobs, leaving the kids with their parents/nanny/full-time school.

Husbands in this case are aftermaths...so unless you are really really happy with minimal time with the missus, I would not go down that route.
 
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My ex was super carrer-oriented.
Basically what @Skills said...seduce her like any other chick.
If they like you, they'll manage.

Only caveat is that carrer-oriented chicks usually don't want to have kids.
Or if they do, it's just to check the box, so they stop on the first one and go back to focus on their jobs, leaving the kids with their parents/nanny/full-time school.

Husbands in this case are aftermaths...so unless you are really really happy with minimal time with the missus, I would not go down that route.
I am indeed let me do whatever I want in my free time.

Tbh they are like a check box for me too.
 

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My ex was super carrer-oriented.
Basically what @Skills said...seduce her like any other chick.
If they like you, they'll manage.

Only caveat is that carrer-oriented chicks usually don't want to have kids.
Or if they do, it's just to check the box, so they stop on the first one and go back to focus on their jobs, leaving the kids with their parents/nanny/full-time school.

Husbands in this case are aftermaths...so unless you are really really happy with minimal time with the missus, I would not go down that route.
Really good point one way around this get them in 26 to 28 range after 28 some get the baby fever shit...
 
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