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Dorian Gray

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Was at my favorite venue, Octagon. I like this place because it has a slightly more chill vibe to it than rest of the "hot" clubs in Seoul. The music isn't as loud and only maybe 20%% of the club is dancefloor. The rest is bar and tables.

Did some warmups to get my momentum going. Took me a while to get in a really social mood, and before anything really hooked. Nearly pulled one girl, HBRedhead

This was a quite tall, her hair was in a dark red colour. I approached her as she was walking past me with her friend. She spoke litterally no english (I think the only thing she said in english was "nice to meet you"), and her body language didn't imply that she was interested, but I could see in her eyes that she liked me. Also she didn't walk away, which is the only "IOI" I really need. If she's not down, she will walk off. If she doesn't it's still on, and even if she walks off I can always re-open.
Anyways, I pulled her towards me. I could tell her "buying temperature" wasn't very high, so I made sure not to touch her TOO much or crate too much tension in the beginning. Her friend tried to drag her away (exchagned a few words with her earlier, but she didn't speak english eiter), but I pulled HBRedhead towards me and told her friend to go away.
I did this kind of jokingly but still kind of serious. Yelled "Go away! She's mine now!" to her friend while holding my arms around my target. It's kind of hard to explain, but Tyler Durden has a video where he does it. I think it it's from HotSeat 2 trailer.

I probably should have tried to befriend her friend a little bit at this point, but at least she let us alone. Tbh I just wanted to try something I saw in a video, and it worked, she left us alone, and she didn't really seem angry at all until waay later.

Tried to talk to my girl for a bit before I realized it wasn't going anywhere. She seemed very nervous and spoke so little englsih it was hard to exchange anytihng but the most basic of plesantries. I don't remember exactly what happend, but I remember HB Redhead and her friend going with some guys to a table.

Saw her alter when some dude was hitting on her. Walked up and just said "ignore him, ignore him, ignore him" in her ear. For whatever reason, it worked! Maybe because I was in such a good mood. I have tried this before, and it works almost every time. Just say "ignore him/her" repeatedly into the ear of your target whenever someone tries to take her away.
Took her to my friends near a table, she said to my friend that she thought I looked bored. I thought "shit, gotta manage my attainability" and started smiling a little more and playing around more.
Anyway, took her to the dancefloor because I figured there wasn't anything else we could do. Danced a little bit with her, just holding her hands around her waist. I know the dangers of getting too physical on the dancefloor, so I avoided that. She didn't seem down with that shit anyway. Her friend left us alone.
There was seriously NOTHING in this girls body language or anything other than the fact that she didn't walk away that showed me she was interested.
Danced for a little bit before she suddenly asked "where you stay?"

I figured this was a sign as good as any; she wanted to go home with me. I tried to communicate "wanna go to my place later?" and I thing she understood and I'm pretty sure she said yes. Asked her "now?" and she shook her head.
I rememember thinkning "hmm what do I do now.." so I just kept dancing with her for a bit. Her friend came by and was pretty pissed. Apperantly she was angry because my target had ignored her and stayed with me for so long. She walked off in fury and my target spent maybe 10 minutes after this to look for her friend to say sorry.

One of my buddies acted as a translator during this period and supposedly she said she wanted to look for her friend alone.
Left her and tried to approach her agian a few times after that, but she rejected me more and more.

Talked to a few other girls after this, but all the hot ones were taken or busy being in hardcore party mode, so didn't get any girls with me tonight. Some girl came up to me, took my phone, put in her number and told me to text her. She was kinda hot, so I guess that's something.

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I've read the post on non-verbal attraction and how to get foreign girls where supposedly not speaking the language is almost better than speaking it, but I don't understand how to pull of a seduction like that. I mean, guess I could see how it would go down if my logistics were really really tight, there were no friends to deal with or she gives any other objections. I also meet guys who tell me they fuck girls they can't speak with "all the time", but they have usually been here for many years and probably speak the language better than they think, OR have had some lucky breaks. Never seen a guy do it. I've been for two months now and ALMOST pulled it off a few times, so I guess if I'm here long enough it's bound to happen, but I just can't see how it can go down consistently.
I feel not speaking the language does wonders for attraction, but is hell for logistics and comforrt. I often feel like I could fuck the girl right then and there, but getting her to actually come with me out of the club is soooooo hard.

Any thoughts?
 
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Chase

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Dorian Gray said:
I've read the post on non-verbal attraction and how to get foreign girls where supposedly not speaking the language is almost better than speaking it, but I don't understand how to pull of a seduction like that. I mean, guess I could see how it would go down if my logistics were really really tight, there were no friends to deal with or she gives any other objections. I also meet guys who tell me they fuck girls they can't speak with "all the time", but they have usually been here for many years and probably speak the language better than they think, OR have had some lucky breaks. Never seen a guy do it. I've been for two months now and ALMOST pulled it off a few times, so I guess if I'm here long enough it's bound to happen, but I just can't see how it can go down consistently.
I feel not speaking the language does wonders for attraction, but is hell for logistics and comforrt. I often feel like I could fuck the girl right then and there, but getting her to actually come with me out of the club is soooooo hard.

Any thoughts?

This may help: you can view sex as simply the last step in a long line of escalating compliance.

So, if you can't talk with her, that's fine; gesture for her to move next to you. Pat the seat for her to sit with you. Have her take your hand as you lead her elsewhere. Spin her. Pull her close. Push her lightly away. Take her hand and draw it in. Take her hand and run it over her chest, then wag your finger in a "no no!" gesture at her playfully. Lead her around more. Pick her up. Lead her outside, and when she starts objecting, act like she's being ridiculous, and show her you're just leading her to that kabob vendor outside (loads of kabob street vendors in Seoul, and the kabob there is AWESOME). Then start leading her again - this time back to your place.

Essentially, what you're doing is getting her used to following your lead. The more into you she is and the less she has obstacles up to that (friends, mental resistance, etc.), the fewer steps you need along the way; the less into you she is and the more obstacles she has, the more you need to take baby steps from one stage to the next.

Also, this is generally easier when there's NO dancing involved... friends cockblock a lot more when they see their girlfriends doing physical stuff (dancing, kissing, etc.). So if you're worried about language barriers, refrain from getting too physical in front of friends.

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