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Backstory
I've had two first date lays in the past month, but have also had probably 4-5 FR++ that have failed to lead to sex and I never heard from again. My fundamentals seem to be inconsistent with HB8-9-10's. The two first date lays were both HB6-7's.
Approach and number close
Cold approached an HB8 Latina at the mall. She was wearing a baseball cap with a local team emblem. I made an observational intro asking if the team was her favorite. She smiled and responded by teasing me about my presumption. My humor tends to be fairly observational sarcasm and irony which she seemed to like and was smiling and laughing quite a bit while we talked. After about 10 minutes of conversation I asked if she had plans later, she said nothing really important. I told her I needed to finish some shopping but we should meet up in 30 minutes and grab some coffee. She agreed, I handed her my phone to enter her number and told her I'd text her when I was done. She looked excited as she walked away.
Framing
I texted her about 35 minutes later, and asked her to meet me at a nearby store. We met about 10 minutes later. I teased her about not having any bags and asked if she was familiar with a local ice cream shop. She'd never been but was down for going. We drove separately and met at the ice cream shop. The mall and the ice cream shop are both extremely close to my apt so I intentionally stopped by my apt to clean a bit before heading to the ice cream shop. I generally try to make them wait for me as it seems to build tension and excitement, but am generally no more than 10 minutes late to not appear rude. Arriving, I tell her I generally sample quite a few before making my decision and as we each sample I taste some then share. She seems to like this and starts doing it as well. I never pay on a first day, so I generally break this fact to them playfully. I said "I hope the price isn't too steep, I didn't want you to be too invested on our first time hanging out. Can you handle it?" She balked at the challenge and attempted to pay for me which I curtailed to show I'm not a cheapskate. It's a really nice boutique-y ice cream shop and we sat near the window. I took the chair adjacent to her instead of across from her. The proximity allowed for subtle conversational kino, and inadvertent leg brushes. We chat for about an hour mostly her asking me questions and me aswering very simply, with lots of silence and pauses to take bites of ice cream. Every now and again I'd ask "and you?" to her question. We talked about travel and I playfully asked if she'd stopped by the nude beaches. She said she didn't know any, and I said that was a shame. She laughed and agreed, saying she might have visited one. I teased her about the might saying "She's totally an exhibitionist," to which she agreed and laughed. The conversation continued like that throughout. She seemed very comfortable and had her legs propped up across from her toward the end of the hour. About half way through I asked where she lived, she said currently with her parents but she qualified that she's had people over and has a pretty nice setup with her own space. I asked about movies and she said she enjoyed a good movie. I told her I was in a chill mood and was thinking about chilling and watching a movie. She seemed open to the idea. Attempting to guide the next stop to her place, I asked what movies she had lying around. She said she didn't own many but had some. I asked if we should rent one then head to her place. She said I was very forward. I attempted to turn it around and remind her she was the one who'd seduced me and I wasn't sure how I'd ended up with a stranger at a ice cream shop. We changed topics for a few minutes and then I brought it back up. I said "So how far is it to your place so I know how long i'm going to be out." She said her parents probably wouldn't be down for a friend coming over.
Roadblocks and fail
I changed topics and then tried for a third time on the going back to her place plan and could tell she was starting to become uncomfortable and my smoothness and wit were fading. I could not come up with a better option, and my own realization that my window was closing wasn't helping. She implied being okay with going back to my place at some point, but I've yet to have a successful escalation to sex at my place on the first date. Both previous 1st date lay's where at there place. I seem to be failing with the comfort building when back at my place especially with the HB8-9-10's. They seem to be much more resistent to my charms. As I began failing to lead the conversation she offered going to the movies, to which I knew would not result in sex afterward but more likely leading to being friend-zoned, I declined. I went silent as my mind raced for a solution on the fly, but she picked up on it and was growing uncomfortable. She said we should come up with an option that wasn't her or my place. I finally told her I think I'd call it a night and head home and said goodbye. She said somewhat frustratingly "Ok, see you later then." I thought I might be able to recover and texted her as I was driving away an excuse about having to pickup my roommate who doesn't have a car. She responded "haha, okay." Told her "Might be able to meet up after though." To which she replied "She'd missed out on some errands and was going to finish those, but maybe another time." I don't think I'll be hearing from her again.
I've had two first date lays in the past month, but have also had probably 4-5 FR++ that have failed to lead to sex and I never heard from again. My fundamentals seem to be inconsistent with HB8-9-10's. The two first date lays were both HB6-7's.
Approach and number close
Cold approached an HB8 Latina at the mall. She was wearing a baseball cap with a local team emblem. I made an observational intro asking if the team was her favorite. She smiled and responded by teasing me about my presumption. My humor tends to be fairly observational sarcasm and irony which she seemed to like and was smiling and laughing quite a bit while we talked. After about 10 minutes of conversation I asked if she had plans later, she said nothing really important. I told her I needed to finish some shopping but we should meet up in 30 minutes and grab some coffee. She agreed, I handed her my phone to enter her number and told her I'd text her when I was done. She looked excited as she walked away.
Framing
I texted her about 35 minutes later, and asked her to meet me at a nearby store. We met about 10 minutes later. I teased her about not having any bags and asked if she was familiar with a local ice cream shop. She'd never been but was down for going. We drove separately and met at the ice cream shop. The mall and the ice cream shop are both extremely close to my apt so I intentionally stopped by my apt to clean a bit before heading to the ice cream shop. I generally try to make them wait for me as it seems to build tension and excitement, but am generally no more than 10 minutes late to not appear rude. Arriving, I tell her I generally sample quite a few before making my decision and as we each sample I taste some then share. She seems to like this and starts doing it as well. I never pay on a first day, so I generally break this fact to them playfully. I said "I hope the price isn't too steep, I didn't want you to be too invested on our first time hanging out. Can you handle it?" She balked at the challenge and attempted to pay for me which I curtailed to show I'm not a cheapskate. It's a really nice boutique-y ice cream shop and we sat near the window. I took the chair adjacent to her instead of across from her. The proximity allowed for subtle conversational kino, and inadvertent leg brushes. We chat for about an hour mostly her asking me questions and me aswering very simply, with lots of silence and pauses to take bites of ice cream. Every now and again I'd ask "and you?" to her question. We talked about travel and I playfully asked if she'd stopped by the nude beaches. She said she didn't know any, and I said that was a shame. She laughed and agreed, saying she might have visited one. I teased her about the might saying "She's totally an exhibitionist," to which she agreed and laughed. The conversation continued like that throughout. She seemed very comfortable and had her legs propped up across from her toward the end of the hour. About half way through I asked where she lived, she said currently with her parents but she qualified that she's had people over and has a pretty nice setup with her own space. I asked about movies and she said she enjoyed a good movie. I told her I was in a chill mood and was thinking about chilling and watching a movie. She seemed open to the idea. Attempting to guide the next stop to her place, I asked what movies she had lying around. She said she didn't own many but had some. I asked if we should rent one then head to her place. She said I was very forward. I attempted to turn it around and remind her she was the one who'd seduced me and I wasn't sure how I'd ended up with a stranger at a ice cream shop. We changed topics for a few minutes and then I brought it back up. I said "So how far is it to your place so I know how long i'm going to be out." She said her parents probably wouldn't be down for a friend coming over.
Roadblocks and fail
I changed topics and then tried for a third time on the going back to her place plan and could tell she was starting to become uncomfortable and my smoothness and wit were fading. I could not come up with a better option, and my own realization that my window was closing wasn't helping. She implied being okay with going back to my place at some point, but I've yet to have a successful escalation to sex at my place on the first date. Both previous 1st date lay's where at there place. I seem to be failing with the comfort building when back at my place especially with the HB8-9-10's. They seem to be much more resistent to my charms. As I began failing to lead the conversation she offered going to the movies, to which I knew would not result in sex afterward but more likely leading to being friend-zoned, I declined. I went silent as my mind raced for a solution on the fly, but she picked up on it and was growing uncomfortable. She said we should come up with an option that wasn't her or my place. I finally told her I think I'd call it a night and head home and said goodbye. She said somewhat frustratingly "Ok, see you later then." I thought I might be able to recover and texted her as I was driving away an excuse about having to pickup my roommate who doesn't have a car. She responded "haha, okay." Told her "Might be able to meet up after though." To which she replied "She'd missed out on some errands and was going to finish those, but maybe another time." I don't think I'll be hearing from her again.
So I can't give much more advice there, as she's always sleeping at my place.
