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miker

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Cold approached right before the girls that were sitting beside us at the restaurant left asked …damn they’re kicking u guys out …this bar has an hour and a half time before u get the boot …they were shy while we were sitting beside them obv early in the night but caught her gaze two times before they left so said Fukit broke the ice …one said she wants to go out the other had wanted to clean lol joked about that called her a grandma they loved it then said ok shell go out then her friend thanked me for getting her out …gave her my phone put her number in it called her…now what what’s the best approach guys need your help the iron is slightly warm now wanna heat it up..wondering go for it tonight and look eager gotta be some smooth shit…or send a msg tomoro and for the dating approach it was cold then kinda warm so it’s an uphill battle but the night is young
 

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In this scenario I would wait about an hour before texting. Don't wait too long but don't text too fast. Send a clever initial text that is not seeking anything. Make it substantial enough that if she wants to reply she can, but if she doesn't you didn't come across as too eager. Use a little call back humor to your convo.
Something like "still trying to figure out how you slipped past the guards at the retirement community...fun talk!
-Miker :)"
I don't know the ins and outs of the convo you had so make it more tailored to fit and just slightly more juicy. Maybe even allude to potentially running into eachother if you can. But only if you can keep it super Low key if you take that approach. Make it almost imperceptible.

What happens next all depends on how she responds. if you get a warm response that feels. If there is enough meat on the bones pace your self. Not too much not too little. Keep the texts fun and brief and don't jump the gun on suggesting a meet up again. You can totally build a vibe where she is going "dang this guy seems like fun, why hasn't he texted me yet..." And then just when she thinks she won't hear from you, another hit. Don't wait too long between texts don't text too quick. This all depends on the context of each text. You might have brief runs where you text a bit more. And then nothing for half an hour. Find clever ways to keep her posted on your scene, as well as gather recon on hers. Pics of what you are up to can help, but only if the are super interesting/fun and the timing is right. Leave her hanging a bit and try to work subtle chase frames into the convo if you can. Subtle innuendo. Just enough for spice, to get her thinking you might be a fun time. but not enough to where she is just using you for validation or when the next day comes and you didn't sync up she goes "hey just another horny dude from last night" A little push pull if you can. Did you already seed the idea of meeting up later when you took her number? That could be crucial here. If you did it will be easy to start to seed it into the texts when things are warm. If not it will be a bit more of a leap. Ultimately have a compelling reason to meet up if things are going well. Never push it if the energy is fizzling out. Better to leave it on a note that is easy to pick up on a few days later than to push too hard for the hang out. Ultimately she's gonna have all sorts of dudes gaming her tonight and the only way you can compete is if you are really compelling. A consistant text exchange that stimulates and intrigues her, but never asks much of her (until it is time to pull the trigger). Keep texts brief and concise. Things she can understand without thinking twice. You're gonna habe yo use your judgment on all this man but I those are some solid considerations that have helped me in the past with this kind of scenario. I have found that the pull usually happens a bit later in the night. Not so late that the energy has totally died down. But also not so early that she is still weighing a bunch of prospects. Its when she says to herself "okay ive been out enough and this guy is definitely the most intriguing thing going"
There might be a moment where you have to go out on a limb and risk losing her in the long term if you can't get her out short term. That's your call. It could be the push she needs, but if if the ground work isn't laid and it doesn't land. well... If it feels like its not quite going anywhere let her be the last to text. Then she can look back a few days later and say. Hey this guy was pretty fun

Also, this isnt your only shot to get laid tonight. Keep gaming other girls and don't get your head too wrapped up in this one. That will also help you pace the texts if she is engaging caus with will be caught up in other fun things. O would personally make gaming other girls the priority and texting this girl a back burner endeavor, until it seems like she is really biting.

-Stray Dog
 
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how do i send the text convo she got back to me I put my breathalyzer on my phone for now
 

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A phone breathalyzer? Like you can't text if you blow over a certain BAL?
 

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In this scenario I would wait about an hour before texting. Don't wait too long but don't text too fast. Send a clever initial text that is not seeking anything. Make it substantial enough that if she wants to reply she can, but if she doesn't you didn't come across as too eager. Use a little call back humor to your convo.
Something like "still trying to figure out how you slipped past the guards at the retirement community...fun talk!
-Miker :)"
I don't know the ins and outs of the convo you had so make it more tailored to fit and just slightly more juicy. Maybe even allude to potentially running into eachother if you can. But only if you can keep it super Low key if you take that approach. Make it almost imperceptible.

What happens next all depends on how she responds. if you get a warm response that feels. If there is enough meat on the bones pace your self. Not too much not too little. Keep the texts fun and brief and don't jump the gun on suggesting a meet up again. You can totally build a vibe where she is going "dang this guy seems like fun, why hasn't he texted me yet..." And then just when she thinks she won't hear from you, another hit. Don't wait too long between texts don't text too quick. This all depends on the context of each text. You might have brief runs where you text a bit more. And then nothing for half an hour. Find clever ways to keep her posted on your scene, as well as gather recon on hers. Pics of what you are up to can help, but only if the are super interesting/fun and the timing is right. Leave her hanging a bit and try to work subtle chase frames into the convo if you can. Subtle innuendo. Just enough for spice, to get her thinking you might be a fun time. but not enough to where she is just using you for validation or when the next day comes and you didn't sync up she goes "hey just another horny dude from last night" A little push pull if you can. Did you already seed the idea of meeting up later when you took her number? That could be crucial here. If you did it will be easy to start to seed it into the texts when things are warm. If not it will be a bit more of a leap. Ultimately have a compelling reason to meet up if things are going well. Never push it if the energy is fizzling out. Better to leave it on a note that is easy to pick up on a few days later than to push too hard for the hang out. Ultimately she's gonna have all sorts of dudes gaming her tonight and the only way you can compete is if you are really compelling. A consistant text exchange that stimulates and intrigues her, but never asks much of her (until it is time to pull the trigger). Keep texts brief and concise. Things she can understand without thinking twice. You're gonna habe yo use your judgment on all this man but I those are some solid considerations that have helped me in the past with this kind of scenario. I have found that the pull usually happens a bit later in the night. Not so late that the energy has totally died down. But also not so early that she is still weighing a bunch of prospects. Its when she says to herself "okay ive been out enough and this guy is definitely the most intriguing thing going"
There might be a moment where you have to go out on a limb and risk losing her in the long term if you can't get her out short term. That's your call. It could be the push she needs, but if if the ground work isn't laid and it doesn't land. well... If it feels like its not quite going anywhere let her be the last to text. Then she can look back a few days later and say. Hey this guy was pretty fun

Also, this isnt your only shot to get laid tonight. Keep gaming other girls and don't get your head too wrapped up in this one. That will also help you pace the texts if she is engaging caus with will be caught up in other fun things. O would personally make gaming other girls the priority and texting this girl a back burner endeavor, until it seems like she is really biting.

-Stray Dog
 

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Hey my friend had to leave to wash his car and feed his goldfish was wondering if u bailed on your friend or did u end up going out I was thinking of going to blah blah on blah … have u ever been??want to meet up for a drink
This is what I sent after two hours and this is what she sent back an hour later


Heyy! Srry we went out for a bit but i had to head home to knit a scarf
 
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Hey my friend had to leave to wash his car and feed his goldfish was wondering if u bailed on your friend or did u end up going out I was thinking of going to wide open on Spadina have u ever been??want to meet up for a drink
This is what I sent after two hours and this is what she sent back an hour later


Heyy! Srry we went out for a bit but i had to head home to knit a scarf
In this scenario I would wait about an hour before texting. Don't wait too long but don't text too fast. Send a clever initial text that is not seeking anything. Make it substantial enough that if she wants to reply she can, but if she doesn't you didn't come across as too eager. Use a little call back humor to your convo.
Something like "still trying to figure out how you slipped past the guards at the retirement community...fun talk!
-Miker :)"
I don't know the ins and outs of the convo you had so make it more tailored to fit and just slightly more juicy. Maybe even allude to potentially running into eachother if you can. But only if you can keep it super Low key if you take that approach. Make it almost imperceptible.

What happens next all depends on how she responds. if you get a warm response that feels. If there is enough meat on the bones pace your self. Not too much not too little. Keep the texts fun and brief and don't jump the gun on suggesting a meet up again. You can totally build a vibe where she is going "dang this guy seems like fun, why hasn't he texted me yet..." And then just when she thinks she won't hear from you, another hit. Don't wait too long between texts don't text too quick. This all depends on the context of each text. You might have brief runs where you text a bit more. And then nothing for half an hour. Find clever ways to keep her posted on your scene, as well as gather recon on hers. Pics of what you are up to can help, but only if the are super interesting/fun and the timing is right. Leave her hanging a bit and try to work subtle chase frames into the convo if you can. Subtle innuendo. Just enough for spice, to get her thinking you might be a fun time. but not enough to where she is just using you for validation or when the next day comes and you didn't sync up she goes "hey just another horny dude from last night" A little push pull if you can. Did you already seed the idea of meeting up later when you took her number? That could be crucial here. If you did it will be easy to start to seed it into the texts when things are warm. If not it will be a bit more of a leap. Ultimately have a compelling reason to meet up if things are going well. Never push it if the energy is fizzling out. Better to leave it on a note that is easy to pick up on a few days later than to push too hard for the hang out. Ultimately she's gonna have all sorts of dudes gaming her tonight and the only way you can compete is if you are really compelling. A consistant text exchange that stimulates and intrigues her, but never asks much of her (until it is time to pull the trigger). Keep texts brief and concise. Things she can understand without thinking twice. You're gonna habe yo use your judgment on all this man but I those are some solid considerations that have helped me in the past with this kind of scenario. I have found that the pull usually happens a bit later in the night. Not so late that the energy has totally died down. But also not so early that she is still weighing a bunch of prospects. Its when she says to herself "okay ive been out enough and this guy is definitely the most intriguing thing going"
There might be a moment where you have to go out on a limb and risk losing her in the long term if you can't get her out short term. That's your call. It could be the push she needs, but if if the ground work isn't laid and it doesn't land. well... If it feels like its not quite going anywhere let her be the last to text. Then she can look back a few days later and say. Hey this guy was pretty fun

Also, this isnt your only shot to get laid tonight. Keep gaming other girls and don't get your head too wrapped up in this one. That will also help you pace the texts if she is engaging caus with will be caught up in other fun things. O would personally make gaming other girls the priority and texting this girl a back burner endeavor, until it seems like she is really biting.

-Stray Dog
I feel like one more clever response tonight opens me up for rapport starting tomoro or after that any ideas
 

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A phone breathalyzer? Like you can't text if you blow over a certain BAL?
Have to be focused when in seduction mode I find too many drinks and things get sloppy make stupid mistakes regarding the breathalyzer comment…after too many drinks I refrain from saying anything over text better waiting..:but ya just thinking one good response to her for tonight and go from there tomoro just don’t want to deflate tonight cuz I know she’s prob not in the zone and I’m still a cold stranger
 
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I feel like one more clever response tonight opens me up for rapport starting tomoro or after that any ideas
If it was me
Her:Heyy! Srry we went out for a bit but i had to head home to knit a scarf
Me: Quaint

and I would leave it at that
 

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If it was me
Her:Heyy! Srry we went out for a bit but i had to head home to knit a scarf
Me: Quaint

and I would leave it at that
I just msged after like two hours….

me

I used to knit …..
That’s it hahah….
Figure sometimes less is more keep it open and build rapport tomoro or the day after and then decide but it was a toughy and we’ll see if I can maneuver it ….thanks for the responses …much love
 

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In this scenario I would wait about an hour before texting. Don't wait too long but don't text too fast. Send a clever initial text that is not seeking anything. Make it substantial enough that if she wants to reply she can, but if she doesn't you didn't come across as too eager. Use a little call back humor to your convo.
Something like "still trying to figure out how you slipped past the guards at the retirement community...fun talk!
-Miker :)"
I don't know the ins and outs of the convo you had so make it more tailored to fit and just slightly more juicy. Maybe even allude to potentially running into eachother if you can. But only if you can keep it super Low key if you take that approach. Make it almost imperceptible.

What happens next all depends on how she responds. if you get a warm response that feels. If there is enough meat on the bones pace your self. Not too much not too little. Keep the texts fun and brief and don't jump the gun on suggesting a meet up again. You can totally build a vibe where she is going "dang this guy seems like fun, why hasn't he texted me yet..." And then just when she thinks she won't hear from you, another hit. Don't wait too long between texts don't text too quick. This all depends on the context of each text. You might have brief runs where you text a bit more. And then nothing for half an hour. Find clever ways to keep her posted on your scene, as well as gather recon on hers. Pics of what you are up to can help, but only if the are super interesting/fun and the timing is right. Leave her hanging a bit and try to work subtle chase frames into the convo if you can. Subtle innuendo. Just enough for spice, to get her thinking you might be a fun time. but not enough to where she is just using you for validation or when the next day comes and you didn't sync up she goes "hey just another horny dude from last night" A little push pull if you can. Did you already seed the idea of meeting up later when you took her number? That could be crucial here. If you did it will be easy to start to seed it into the texts when things are warm. If not it will be a bit more of a leap. Ultimately have a compelling reason to meet up if things are going well. Never push it if the energy is fizzling out. Better to leave it on a note that is easy to pick up on a few days later than to push too hard for the hang out. Ultimately she's gonna have all sorts of dudes gaming her tonight and the only way you can compete is if you are really compelling. A consistant text exchange that stimulates and intrigues her, but never asks much of her (until it is time to pull the trigger). Keep texts brief and concise. Things she can understand without thinking twice. You're gonna habe yo use your judgment on all this man but I those are some solid considerations that have helped me in the past with this kind of scenario. I have found that the pull usually happens a bit later in the night. Not so late that the energy has totally died down. But also not so early that she is still weighing a bunch of prospects. Its when she says to herself "okay ive been out enough and this guy is definitely the most intriguing thing going"
There might be a moment where you have to go out on a limb and risk losing her in the long term if you can't get her out short term. That's your call. It could be the push she needs, but if if the ground work isn't laid and it doesn't land. well... If it feels like its not quite going anywhere let her be the last to text. Then she can look back a few days later and say. Hey this guy was pretty fun

Also, this isnt your only shot to get laid tonight. Keep gaming other girls and don't get your head too wrapped up in this one. That will also help you pace the texts if she is engaging caus with will be caught up in other fun things. O would personally make gaming other girls the priority and texting this girl a back burner endeavor, until it seems like she is really biting.

-Stray Dog
This is what I sent her tonight Hail Mary we’ll see what happens
Hey truthfully I’d love to banter with u about how you’re a grandma but I’d rather be a bit more direct….and skip that….I noticed u the second I sat down and I felt like u were abit shy and saw your gaze so I broke the ice before u left…I’d like to say more but il leave it at that and if you’re interested in continuing this conversation shoot me a response whatever pops in your head
 

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I just msged after like two hours….

me

I used to knit …..
That’s it hahah….
Figure sometimes less is more keep it open and build rapport tomoro or the day after and then decide but it was a toughy and we’ll see if I can maneuver it ….thanks for the responses …muI personally would wait a day or two. But that's just me.
 

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Just gonna be real here. 9.5 times out of 10 this approach just doesnt land. Not saying it won't but often it doesn't. And if it does it can be rad because hey, she just outright accepted your sincerity. But in general...

Just sending a slightly lengthy text out the gate asking her to meet up has a few elements to it. It subcommunicates that on a Saturday night, which is culturally about getting into fun cool things, or working on personal projects that you weren't able to get to during the week, you are prioritizing a relative stranger. It will often have the woman thinking "wait, I am really that important in this mans world? Doesn't he have a life?". Especially if she is getting up to fun cool things herself which she clearly decided to prioritize over you in this case. This alone can deflate any intrigue and wonder. Its like "oh I see he is just out being overly eager to get laid get laid and otherwise doesn't have much going on". Instead of "Damn he was interesting and fun, I wonder what he is getting into? Maybe he is having a blast with his boys. He was pretty confident, maybe he's talking to other girls. Maybe he is deep in that project he said he was working on. That was intriguing. What was that all about. What if he wasn't that into me? I felt so self continue when I said..." You get what getting at. Also the length of text you sent compared to the length she sent back seems to strongly indicate an imbalance of investment. Her response didn't even include anything like "oh that sounds super fun. It was really cool talking" or anything like that. Now she could be thinking that but she certainly didn't tell you. And that puts you in an unbalanced position. Sorry I have to knit is somewhat dismissive. And the truth is, for all you know she texted you that before she went to go get pounded by some other dude. Sure she could be knitting but you don't know that. Or she could be out partying, flirting with other dudes. The list goes on. By saying "I used to knitt..." You are outright accepting her frame and there is a missed opportunity to peak her interest again. That's why I usually go with super ambiguous and short responses in this kind of scenario (like saying "quaint") because yes it does somewhat accept her frame but it also has an air of "if that's how you want to spend your night while this totally awesome dude wants to hang out with you..." Quaint. That way when she hasn't heard from me for a couple days she is surprised to hear from me. Like she was thinking maybe she lost my interest by downplaying me.

And then your last text really just puts all your cards on the table and the ball in her court. It subcommunicates that you have just been thinking about her all Saturday night. She basically knows she can have you and the next step is totally up to her as you just sit and wait.

I don't know what your initial interaction was so hey it all might work. I am just saying in general, even if it does work, it is not a strategy I would apply to game cause the returns are often very slim.

Texting has been my Achilles heal so I have learned all this the hard way.. I still make silly text mistakes after 16 years in the game. I have definitely come to realize that just enough and not too much is the wiser route
 
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Also bro. Not telling you how to do your life but for me, whenever I am really just out to game. I usually have no more than one alcoholic beverage and just get mocktails at the bar. It tends to give me an edge. But hey some guts spit game just fine a few in
 

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I agree with everything you said that knit text was stupid and that last text totally put pressure …and may have sunk me…the thing was we spoke for like one minute as they were leaving so I knew it was an uphill battle and tbh surprised she responded…but hey u win some u lose some…much appreciate your help and info
 

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I agree with everything you said that knit text was stupid and that last text totally put pressure …and may have sunk me…the thing was we spoke for like one minute as they were leaving so I knew it was an uphill battle and tbh surprised she responded…but hey u win some u lose some…much appreciate your help and info
Way to get the number close though. While ultimately a number close only counts for so much its a total victory. It wasn't a fake number or anything and she responded to your first text so you definitely ran some game right when you met. But hey man, it might not have been an uphill battle at all. That may have been an assumption on your part. Sometimes you just have a little faith in the interaction. Put yourself in the right position (using smart text game, in this instance) play your cards right, and pussy comes rolling down hill and lands right into your lap.
 
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Ya it has been recently I would have never asked before I saw it slipping and I grabbed it quick…every girl I met yesterday was feeling it one told me after I picked her and her friend who looked like Emanuelle chriqui up that she noticed me out of all the guys in the place that I had something different …and as I spoke with her more throughout the night I realized how much game she had
 

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Hell yeah bro. Emanuelle Chriqui looks a lot like my ex. Little less breasts and a good amount more booty though. That feeling that your are the smoothest operator in the room is just gold. Pure gold
 

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Hey stray dog I got a question on another topic just wanted to get your input here’s the deal

met this cutie two weeks ago met up last week late night at a bar then took her home fooled around whatever…that topic is on another thread lol …so tomoro is her bday and we have a date Tuesday ..the question is u think I should get her something small like for her bday maybe some flowers or something …we’ve been talking often and have a good thing so far so just not sure gift or no gift
 

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My inclination would be to say no. don't give a gift. Better to just give her orgasms as a present.
These articles might help you make the call for yourself. The last article is more geared towards a girlfriend, which your gal is not, but will still offer insight.
 
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