Observations Hierarchy of Your Understanding. Moving step by step

[trashKENNUT]

Hi Guys,

Remember, this are only forms/labels.

Guys who are not good with women. (Religious or Super Conservative or Continuous Bad experiences or Mainstream media)
= Women sucks/Women should be sad when nice guys are gone.

Guys who are average with women. (Religious or Conservative or Bad experiences or Mainstream media)
= Women who sleep around are sluts.

Guys who know about women on an amateur level. (Semi-religious or Semi Conservative or Some Bad experiences or Less Mainstream media)
= Women shouldn't do this/She's too slutty (with emotion content)

Guys who know about women on an intermediate level. (Half religious or Half liberal or Lesser Bad experiences or Less Mainstream media)
= I don't want to be involve in this (shit talks about women)/Women should do this and this.

Guys who know about women on an advanced level. (Not religious or Liberal or Well experienced or Little mainstream media)
= Laughs when women topics come out/I think that different environment might play a part/She react that way because you did this and that, and women hate that.

Guys who know about women on an mastery level (Not religious or Liberal or Too well experienced or Very Little mainstream media)
= *Looks at you retardedly when you start ridiculous comments on women*/*Smile*/You do this because this is where you have gone wrong. By doing this, you actually make her unhappy, because she had this expectation.

Guys who are enlightened.

= .....................

If one might wonder, It's very difficult to distinguish guys at the very top. Almost all greats/leaders alternate between "mastery level" and "enlightened". They might also not reach enlightened, but what is "enlightened" is subjective.

The sentence below the bold is examples of how people think of women or speak about women, in general, and what they do as indicated in *.........*.

Zac

 

[Tkr]

It can be very tricky to identify the guys at the very top because looks have little to do with it, I know I get a lot of false leads and even doubt my reads when the dude is actually really good. At this stage, personally, I can spot a man with solid fundamentals easily but the top 1% is not a read I'm confident in making.
It's very interesting though because the idea that "real recognizes real" is true in many things, and it just highlights that I'm not all the way there yet.

A cool example of this happened yesterday:

I went to dance tango at my grandfather's preferred venue with him last night and it was almost impossible to identify who the truly great dancers were.

As a beginner/low-intermediate, I can only really understand posture, and that's how I eliminate most people. Good fundamentals carry on into dance because the posture is a piece of life, and many beginners start dancing hunched over because they're simply not there yet in real life either.
Yet I don't understand advanced footwork and solid leading yet, so it's easy to be dazzled by the guy who's dancing really fast and seems to be having a good time.

When I turn to my granddad, who's a master, he tells me with 0 effort that the dude has no grace and just dances that way because he likes to and tells me not to emulate him. I really have to pick at his brain to get the analysis on exactly why, but I accept that it's too much effort for him to explain in a semi-loud venue and that I'm not at the point yet where I can put the information to use so he doesn't bother. Even if I think I can understand it, I can only trust his judgment and work harder until he thinks I've earned it, because..

A master can tell who the great dancers are almost without thinking about it, because he has enough experience that it's obvious to him. Maybe when I get that far with girl skills I'll be able to do the same.

Heres to a bit of luck to the both of us,
- TR

 

[trashKENNUT]

Tkr,

but the top 1% is not a read I'm confident in making.
It's very interesting though because the idea that "real recognizes real" is true in many things, and it just highlights that I'm not all the way there yet.

Yea, it's crazy. Those at the very top are very very good, and they recognize when you are true/legitimate, even if you on the way there, they will help.

I'm not at the point yet where I can put the information to use so he doesn't bother. Even if I think I can understand it, I can only trust his judgment and work harder until he thinks I've earned it, because..

That key point. "Until i have earned it". Most people already reject the smaller stuff and want to get the big stuff without showing any promise/potential. Good luck to us

Zac

 

[Chase]

Yet I don't understand advanced footwork and solid leading yet, so it's easy to be dazzled by the guy who's dancing really fast and seems to be having a good time.

When I turn to my granddad, who's a master, he tells me with 0 effort that the dude has no grace and just dances that way because he likes to and tells me not to emulate him.

Takes one to know one, in other words! This is eminently true in every field.

Chase