Videos hoe_math

[Marty]

Hey all, I find this channel helpful: hoe_math. I’d be interested in comments from anyone else who has viewed it.

 

[topcat]

From what i’ve seen of it, I don’t like it personally. Sounds like a salty dude that wants to hold women accountable for their “hoe behaviour”.

That’s the attitude of a man who doesn’t “get” women, their mentality or into bed with them.

He doesn’t teach healthy mindsets that lead to mutually beneficial relationships with women. Instead he sells “man crack” that makes men feel good about their frustrations at loose women.

I like hoes personally, if you (meaning the man who makes the videos and any man that shares his views) don’t, then don’t date or fuck them. Not all women are “hoes”…(though most have the potential to be). Environment is what incentivizes them..

 

[Adventurer]

I hate that channel. Since I watch Girls Chase, Youtube kept recommanding it to me so I watched a few videos... Ultimate mental masturbation with no actionable advice to actually get better with women

 

[Train]

I've seen the channel several times. The charts and explanations come off as autistic and with an air of bitterness. It's mental masturbation that feels productive and is decent rage bait but impractical and useless

Also, this guy sounds more like a bitter nerd than a stud who's successful with women

 

[ulrich]

Tried to see two videos. Seems more of a confusopoly to me.

He throws a bunch of statements in such a quick succession that I can’t possibly understand them all and judge if they’re true or not.
Basically the thing they do with Ponzi schemes or MLM.

 

[Marty]

nice dogpile. Okay, point taken! I think those are all fair criticisms, actually.

What I liked was how he showed what we would call ‘fundamentals’ on one axis, with what we would term ‘provider value’ on the other, and indicated what the intersection between those parameters would result in, in terms of relationship types.

But you may be right, that this is outweighed by the negatives mentioned by my esteemed fellow-members above.

 

[ulrich]

What I liked was how he showed what we would call ‘fundamentals’ on one axis, with what we would term ‘provider value’ on the other, and indicated what the intersection between those parameters would result in, in terms of relationship types.

That may be interesting to discuss on its own.

Can you point us to the video?

 

[Marty]

That may be interesting to discuss on its own.

Can you point us to the video?

Hey Ulrich, of course. It’s laid out here, in his flagship video (or what should be): Zones v3. -Marty

 

[MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla]

I followed him on Tik Tok before he blew up, he gets a lot of things right but lately as is the problem with most YouTubers etc… They have to keep going for more extreme opinions to continue having new content.

The great lessons in there are straight forward,

- Women have double speak

- Older women after being dicked enough change their habits and wants in choosing a guy

- You should focus on your own things and enjoyments


I’ve noticed oddly enough on the amount of dates I’ve been on that women do seem to act as a collective with some that exist outside of the rubber band range. I don’t find much individuality in women they usually follow to most degrees what any other chick does. I wonder if they could do a hoe_math equivalent guys

 

[ulrich]

Hey Ulrich, of course. It’s laid out here, in his flagship video (or what should be): Zones v3. -Marty

Hey @Marty.

I tried to give it a full view but I’ve been just so busy the last weeks that I couldn’t get past half of it.

I think the Zones v3 video is much more interesting that his other videos, particularly his shorts.
I insist that the guy speaks very fast and throws a lot of information but I think it has a decent base understanding.

There is something missing from his zones theory, though.
The part where he says men are simpler… that’s bullshit… men seem simpler because most men operate from a scarcity perspective and tend to be chasing for sex almost all the time…. it looks as if we are simpler but in reality is that you don’t get to see the whole extent of men actions.

It sounds weird to guys who have not had success with women but those “zones” exist both in women and men with abundance.

Some thing sound unbelievable for a guy until you live them:
- A sexy girl with a bad personality you just wish you can turn into a good girlfriend
- Being used by multiple women just for sex escapades despite serious interest from the man.
- Rejecting a “super hot” woman because you just don’t trust her intentions.

According to hoe_math zones, those are impossible for men, only women experience those… yet I’ve seen and lived them.

So… decent base, still lacks major nuance.