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TL;DR - You don't need any special attraction techniques.
Game works because you're basically bypassing all of this BS and hitting her in "the id" - the primal part of her being. Not the ego (the thinking part) or the super ego (the part where she thinks about others".
Freud/Jung ain't the best in terms of psychology these days, but id/ego/superego is a good way to explain how it works.
The primal part of her, the most emotional part of her - that's the part that moves us from total stranger, to curiosity, to interest, to something that hits her primal brain (the repitillian brain, the hindbrain) - the part of her that wants to drink, dance, smoke, get high, eat, sleep, #1, #2, and F#$%.
We twirl girls, we dance with them. We make skin to skin contact.
We literally pick them up and move them around like toys
We use innuendo.
We talk about sex frankly.
We use graphic language, we use visual language
We make eye contact, we make facial expressions, we use body language
We move her from place to place.
^that's what pick up is - and this sort of "emotional immersion", this "roller coaster of emotions" - skips all of her typical BS that she uses to not bang. Good pick up is like an assault of the senses. She just goes with the flow.
Deep down, she wants to bang every guy in the venue.
She wants sick and depraved things done to her, and she wants to do them to others.
Our job is to take the lock of the cage, and open the door, and get her to come out.
And she wants ZERO repercussions and consequences. No social damage, no emotional damage, no babies, no diseases, no lingering pain. She's not responsible. She just went with the flow...
Academic and Pop Psychology as applied to Pick Up
That alone should put this out of the forefront of your mind.
PUA, for better or for worse, is about SHORT TERM RELATIONSHIPS. Not long term.
Something that no one wants to say directly - If you can fast forward past all of her logistical hurdles, intellectual issues, emotional problems, and psychological issues - and get to the sex, ON YOUR TERMS, - the easier it is get the long term relationship, and one on your terms.
What blue pill and incel guys say about PUAs that go "mono"
Between any set of people, but especially a man and a woman, there's a flow of power.
She has all the power at the start. She can dictate the terms.
If you don't study this stuff - your relationship is often very "negotiated".
When you do study this stuff - you basically blow up all of her well laid plans. You become the buyer, not the seller.
Remember her long term/boyfriend qualities are BS.
Every chick wants a 6'5" guy with a six pack and 7 figure income, cooler than her, all the girls want him...but he only has eyes for her...(LOL)
In reality, you see them hugged up with some pudgy guy that's 5'9", that might have a good job, but not a great one. If he has a great one, he's married to the job and she's the side piece... She's banged worse. Look up Scarlett Johannsen's 1st boyfriend. (Scar Jo was super hot at one point...)
But after you bang the chick, game or no game, the power shifts to you.
She's potentially in a spot where she might be pregnant. (condoms fail, the pill fails, a lot of girls have irregular periods), she's not gonna know, until 2-3 weeks later that she's in the clear.
She might feel like she's been used (again)
So your power is in how fast you get back to her, and how much you're trying to please her after the fact.
(Current PUA good practices is a balance between ambiguity but good feelings, so as not to trigger regret g(rape)s. I don't make the rules, I just report on em)
Keeping her on pins and needles, where she's moving heaven and earth to hang with you - aka is probably the best it's gonna get before you get to your golden period of your relationship (i.e. your grand kids are spending time with you, haha)
After that initial period of uncertainty - the power shifts back to her - After you both establish a pattern of communication and seeing each other - she's going to want more and more of your time, effort, and emotional commitment. (and just to facillitate this - you're spending money and time - which you could be using to build your base/bag more chicks - but she gives not AF about your loss of opportunity)
You can go through these power shifts. In a long term relationship, it can often feel like you're in competition with someone that's telling you that they're trying to cooperate. But I'm getting really far afield.
To recap
These psych terms don't truly apply to what we're doing, because we're focused on short term goals.
For her, fearful avoidant or not, to worry about a long term relationship - she still has to meet THE MAN'S requirements. Too many Men (and even PUAs) are happy with cute face, nice body, good bedroom skills, and a socio-economic class match.
Demand more.
She will either be insecure about her place and need constant reassurance, or she'll resent you and thinks she can do better (hypergamy)
There doesn't seem to be a STABLE middle ground, where she's 100% happy to be with you 100% of the time.
Game works because you're basically bypassing all of this BS and hitting her in "the id" - the primal part of her being. Not the ego (the thinking part) or the super ego (the part where she thinks about others".
Freud/Jung ain't the best in terms of psychology these days, but id/ego/superego is a good way to explain how it works.
The primal part of her, the most emotional part of her - that's the part that moves us from total stranger, to curiosity, to interest, to something that hits her primal brain (the repitillian brain, the hindbrain) - the part of her that wants to drink, dance, smoke, get high, eat, sleep, #1, #2, and F#$%.
We twirl girls, we dance with them. We make skin to skin contact.
We literally pick them up and move them around like toys
We use innuendo.
We talk about sex frankly.
We use graphic language, we use visual language
We make eye contact, we make facial expressions, we use body language
We move her from place to place.
^that's what pick up is - and this sort of "emotional immersion", this "roller coaster of emotions" - skips all of her typical BS that she uses to not bang. Good pick up is like an assault of the senses. She just goes with the flow.
Deep down, she wants to bang every guy in the venue.
She wants sick and depraved things done to her, and she wants to do them to others.
Our job is to take the lock of the cage, and open the door, and get her to come out.
And she wants ZERO repercussions and consequences. No social damage, no emotional damage, no babies, no diseases, no lingering pain. She's not responsible. She just went with the flow...
^this literally describes 90% of girls, if not 99% of girls.
Academic and Pop Psychology as applied to Pick Up
- Focused on Long Term Relationships and Long Term Behavior
- Often Written by Women and For Women or
- Publicized by women
- Becomes popular with women
- Male input is usually from an older married man or a gay man
- rarely is there any input from a single man that's out there getting it.
That alone should put this out of the forefront of your mind.
PUA, for better or for worse, is about SHORT TERM RELATIONSHIPS. Not long term.
Something that no one wants to say directly - If you can fast forward past all of her logistical hurdles, intellectual issues, emotional problems, and psychological issues - and get to the sex, ON YOUR TERMS, - the easier it is get the long term relationship, and one on your terms.
What blue pill and incel guys say about PUAs that go "mono"
- WIA, that's not a healthy relationship!
- WIA, that's an imbalanced relationship!
- WIA, that's not a 50/50 relationship!
Between any set of people, but especially a man and a woman, there's a flow of power.
She has all the power at the start. She can dictate the terms.
If you don't study this stuff - your relationship is often very "negotiated".
When you do study this stuff - you basically blow up all of her well laid plans. You become the buyer, not the seller.
Remember her long term/boyfriend qualities are BS.
Every chick wants a 6'5" guy with a six pack and 7 figure income, cooler than her, all the girls want him...but he only has eyes for her...(LOL)
In reality, you see them hugged up with some pudgy guy that's 5'9", that might have a good job, but not a great one. If he has a great one, he's married to the job and she's the side piece... She's banged worse. Look up Scarlett Johannsen's 1st boyfriend. (Scar Jo was super hot at one point...)
But after you bang the chick, game or no game, the power shifts to you.
She's potentially in a spot where she might be pregnant. (condoms fail, the pill fails, a lot of girls have irregular periods), she's not gonna know, until 2-3 weeks later that she's in the clear.
She might feel like she's been used (again)
So your power is in how fast you get back to her, and how much you're trying to please her after the fact.
(Current PUA good practices is a balance between ambiguity but good feelings, so as not to trigger regret g(rape)s. I don't make the rules, I just report on em)
Keeping her on pins and needles, where she's moving heaven and earth to hang with you - aka is probably the best it's gonna get before you get to your golden period of your relationship (i.e. your grand kids are spending time with you, haha)
After that initial period of uncertainty - the power shifts back to her - After you both establish a pattern of communication and seeing each other - she's going to want more and more of your time, effort, and emotional commitment. (and just to facillitate this - you're spending money and time - which you could be using to build your base/bag more chicks - but she gives not AF about your loss of opportunity)
You can go through these power shifts. In a long term relationship, it can often feel like you're in competition with someone that's telling you that they're trying to cooperate. But I'm getting really far afield.
To recap
These psych terms don't truly apply to what we're doing, because we're focused on short term goals.
For her, fearful avoidant or not, to worry about a long term relationship - she still has to meet THE MAN'S requirements. Too many Men (and even PUAs) are happy with cute face, nice body, good bedroom skills, and a socio-economic class match.
Demand more.
She will either be insecure about her place and need constant reassurance, or she'll resent you and thinks she can do better (hypergamy)
There doesn't seem to be a STABLE middle ground, where she's 100% happy to be with you 100% of the time.