How to be respectful to a woman?

[Jan]

I have had several instances where I had lost an already interested girl (or even one I already had sexual relationship with) due disrespecting her one way of another.

So far the most common ways I feel I disrespected her, are the follows:

- DIRECT ASK FOR SEX EARLY - asking several girls directly on the first date to go home with me, without providing a plausible deniability and therefore raising ASD. "He thinks I'm an easy girl, he disrespects me."

- DIRECTLY ASK FOR SEX LATE - a girl I already had sex twice. Being kind of quiet throughout the week, then on Saturday texting her: "Hey, I would like to have some fun (implied sexual) outdoors this weekend. Wanna come?".

- NO CONSIDERATIONS FOR SOCIAL NORMS - being too direct, not socially calibrated during day game openers. I have recently watched a video from an experienced seducer talking about guys who don't take into considerations normal social considerations when approaching during day time. He thinks that women who gets non-chalantly approached during the day, kind of automatically assume that the guy does it regularly (he is a player), and this automatically tanks the trust. They are not trusting the guy and therefore put a lot of resistance. He suggests to steal her social frame, and start with something like "Hey, I know it's kind of weird because a shopping center I not really the place someone [stealing the frame] + but I saw you walking by with such a class [some genuine complilment]." The idea is to subcommunicate that this unusual approach is not something

I believe that the root of all these issues is a sense of entitlement and unrealistic assessment of my seduction skills. I believe I inflate my skills in my mind while in reality I don't have enough observation skills to gauge what is really willing to do with me.

What are the most common mistakes you guys know of when a guy would disrespect a girl? And would one should do instead?

I struggle with comfort part of my game, so I would appreciate the answers.

Thanks, Jan

 

[Rakehell]

Well you pretty much asked and answered your own questions. In my mind, it boils down to knowing what’ll be well received in certain situations. If you have a One Size Fits All approach to everything you’ll get everything that one size fits results.

It really depends on knowing the person you’re talking to and what’d likely make her feel put off in a serious way.

Part of it is knowing social norms depending on the context yes, but it’s also knowing which norms you can realistically break to get to your desired outcome.

This changes if you choose to be more polarizing, but people who choose to be polarizing know what comes with being polarizing. Does that make sense? So they know how to make it appeal even tho its polarizing.

Obviously you can’t always know, but realizing in the moment and course correcting on the spot is calibration also.

I believe that the root of all these issues is a sense of entitlement and unrealistic assessment of my seduction skills. I believe I inflate my skills in my mind while in reality I don't have enough observation skills to gauge what is really willing to do with me.

I don’t believe having a sense of entitlement is inherently bad, I don’t even necessarily think that’s what makes these girls feel disrespected. It’s all in how you’re expressing it.