Calls & Texts How to get a solid number from Day Game?

[AdamC]

Hey There Fellas...

So I’m able to get back into Day Gaming for a little bit and I’m trying to figure out how to get a solid number for a meet up based on two approaches I recently did.

The older Hott Russian from last week we can let go because she was pretty up front about not knowing English very well, even thou she did agree to meet up for coffee.

The one I’m disappointed in is the young college girl Saturday late morning walking her dog. I saw her as drove from the store to my place, and in seeing her I had to pull over and open her. On the approach it seemed as if she really liked it.

I opened her with a push pull telling her that her vide seemed interesting so I had to come see what she was like in person, however told her she seemed like really young and asked if she were in college not high school. She blushed and said College. We did a 5 minute walk and talk. I screened her for logistics for a meet-up.. She said she's was going to be studying all weekend instead of partying, but might have some time to meet up next week. That worked for me because I told her about how I'm working a show from Mon - Wed,(Now Thursday) and we could meet up after then.

She said she was down for the meet up. And I did stay and talk with her for like a minute after which is what this coach says to do. In fact he says stay 5 minutes after…

Anyway, I did a text with her then and there when I got the number Saturday:
Me: It's Adam C from Colorado
Me: Chloe

Then later around 7pm Sat I text her:
ME: Fun meeting you today
So I imagine you and Rebel (her dog) will enjoy doing homework all weekend :/
Didn’t hear anything back…

So today I sent her a “Value Text” a coach calls it - “Pinging Value into the void” to get the girls attention and a return response. Like a personal social media post.
It was:
ME: Pretty wild Chloe they built a desert island with the black LED screen in back lighting up as the ocean
(I included two cool picks from the soundstage)

And - NOTHING

Which really sucks since the College Girl seemed really into the interaction. I teased the hell out of her, with push pulls. Got her to blush a couple times. And being older I was like really hoping to have another Rare opportunity with such a young ”juciey” potentially more innocent girl who I could come off as the more experienced teacher.

I sent the Hott Russian something similar. And both didn’t respond. So I am trying to figure out for the Approaches I’ll be doing this week what to do more, better, lest, different, etc… to get a solid number from Day Game?

One Coach says to get a decision from a girl after you get the meet-up. A comment like:
“Ahhh, that’s cute Chloe, you like cute boys from Colorado” and have her agree to that.
(I’m not a cute boy thou, and I’m a more experienced Man, but you get the gist)

Something along those line with the idea that once all her excited emotions drain from her, and let’s say I text later when she’s in a much different mood, she’ll rationally think - “Well, I did say, or agree that I like “Cute Boys From Colorado,” and Adam C was one of them…

I’m inviting suggestions on how you’d modify this decision line

Or what you could say or have her say to get that solid rational after the rush of emotions leave.

Interested in thoughts!

 

[alexlaguma]

Honestly mate I send the same message to ALL of the numbers I get in day game. I say -

"hey Chloe, great to meet you earlier"

And that is it. I never try to get funny or cute or say anything else. I need to look at my stats but its something like an 80% response rate to that. And most of those responses usually give me something to bounce off. And even if the girl just says "nice to meet you too" ... then I'll follow up with a question like "how was xx ?"

If the interaction was solid, just saying "hey great to meet you earlier" will pretty much guarantee a response, and then you can move from there. Even if its the best interaction ever, I find it works because you're still not showing over-investment or that you're too excited about meeting them. Its just cool and calm. Let them give you something to work with in their response.

Anyway, this works for me in London. Might be different culturally elsewhere.

 

[AdamC]

Alright, Cool Alex.
curious -About what time frame do you send that in after the initial interaction?

 

[Atlas IV]

Then later around 7pm Sat I text her:
ME: Fun meeting you today
So I imagine you and Rebel (her dog) will enjoy doing homework all weekend :/
Didn’t hear anything back…

You should always keep the texting fun/upbeat/interesting, not reminding her of something depressing in her life. No surprise she didn't respond to that one.

So today I sent her a “Value Text” a coach calls it - “Pinging Value into the void” to get the girls attention and a return response. Like a personal social media post.
It was:
ME: Pretty wild Chloe they built a desert island with the black LED screen in back lighting up as the ocean
(I included two cool picks from the soundstage)

Did she say anything to you to suggest that she's interested in soundstages? Because if not, it sounds like you're just talking past her. I don't see the value in a ping like this - you're not showing any interest in her life.

A simple go-to of mine is to send a pic the next morning (around 11am) of whatever I'm doing right then and there with some light humor, and asking about her.

E.g. (photo of my morning coffee)
"Starting the day with the world's best coffee (mine) "
"What's going on in Chloe's world?"

Or better, like @alexlaguma suggested, if you know something from personal context with her (e.g. she was about to take an exam, hit the gym, etc), ask specifically about that.
"Did you crush the exam?"
"Solid gym workout?"

Keep it simple but make it personal. If she doesn't respond to something low-pressure like this, chances are she wasn't going to respond to you anyway.

 

[Gorili]

@AdamC,

I think you did very well with the approach. Both the dominant and screening frames were clearly in your court.

She said she's was going to be studying all weekend instead of partying, but might have some time to meet up next week. That worked for me because I told her about how I'm working a show from Mon - Wed,(Now Thursday) and we could meet up after then.

She said she was down for the meet up.

When you guys are in person and scheduling a meet up so far out, this is gonna be a hugeee issue. For an in-depth analysis of why this happens, please read Part 1 of this post from @Skills quoting ijjjji, whom I believe has the best explanation. Leave the logistics / scheduling for when you guys are texting for far into the future events.

From my experience, if you want to schedule something in person, the event should ideally be on the same day or the day after (so in your case either Saturday or Sunday). Anything after that has led to incredibly high ghost and flake rates for me personally.

Then later around 7pm Sat I text her:
ME: Fun meeting you today
So I imagine you and Rebel (her dog) will enjoy doing homework all weekend :/
Didn’t hear anything back…

This is a horrible text. Did your coach tell you to send this? If so, you should consider getting rid of him.

Explanation:

1. You sent her the first text late Saturday morning and you're already double texting so quickly on the same day
2. The text was sent at 7pm Saturday. Would a cool guy really be texting her at this time?
3. She said she's unavailable to meet the whole weekend. Why would you rush to text her if there is no logistical opening?
4. Like @Atlas IV said above, the reference to homework is negative and boring and that is now getting emotionally anchored to you

One Coach says to get a decision from a girl after you get the meet-up. A comment like:
“Ahhh, that’s cute Chloe, you like cute boys from Colorado” and have her agree to that.
(I’m not a cute boy thou, and I’m a more experienced Man, but you get the gist)

Something along those line with the idea that once all her excited emotions drain from her, and let’s say I text later when she’s in a much different mood, she’ll rationally think - “Well, I did say, or agree that I like “Cute Boys From Colorado,” and Adam C was one of them…

As someone who's tried "force framing" with something very similar in the past, I can tell you what's gonna happen. Even though she agreed to a meetup, framing her as chasing this explicitly will have consequences. There's a chance that this girl will reject with something like "haha that's not true" or "I don't know about that". Just be prepared for things to backfire if you use this line.

So I am trying to figure out for the Approaches I’ll be doing this week what to do more, better, lest, different, etc… to get a solid number from Day Game?

One final thing: seduction is a game of odds. All the advice here is about reducing mistakes and stacking the odds in your favor. But this doesn't guarantee that she'll meet up with you or even respond to your texts. Even if we were to replay this exact scenario with Chloe in a parallel universe and with you implementing all the advice here, there's still a chance that it falls through.

There may be outside factors at play that we don't know about that affected her decision and that only she knows. Maybe you came off as too flirty for her tastes. Maybe she met someone else on campus. Who knows?

I would say just keep your head up, continue approaching, and think big picture.

 

[AdamC]

@AdamC,

I think you did very well with the approach. Both the dominant and screening frames were clearly in your court.



When you guys are in person and scheduling a meet up so far out, this is gonna be a hugeee issue. For an in-depth analysis of why this happens, please read Part 1 of this post from @Skills quoting ijjjji, whom I believe has the best explanation. Leave the logistics / scheduling for when you guys are texting for far into the future events.

From my experience, if you want to schedule something in person, the event should ideally be on the same day or the day after (so in your case either Saturday or Sunday). Anything after that has led to incredibly high ghost and flake rates for me personally.



This is a horrible text. Did your coach tell you to send this? If so, you should consider getting rid of him.

Explanation:

1. You sent her the first text late Saturday morning and you're already double texting so quickly on the same day
2. The text was sent at 7pm Saturday. Would a cool guy really be texting her at this time?
3. She said she's unavailable to meet the whole weekend. Why would you rush to text her if there is no logistical opening?
4. Like @Atlas IV said above, the reference to homework is negative and boring and that is now getting emotionally anchored to you

As someone who's tried "force framing" with something very similar in the past, I can tell you what's gonna happen. Even though she agreed to a meetup, framing her as chasing this explicitly will have consequences. There's a chance that this girl will reject with something like "haha that's not true" or "I don't know about that". Just be prepared for things to backfire if you use this line.



One final thing: seduction is a game of odds. All the advice here is about reducing mistakes and stacking the odds in your favor. But this doesn't guarantee that she'll meet up with you or even respond to your texts. Even if we were to replay this exact scenario with Chloe in a parallel universe and with you implementing all the advice here, there's still a chance that it falls through.

There may be outside factors at play that we don't know about that affected her decision and that only she knows. Maybe you came off as too flirty for her tastes. Maybe she met someone else on campus. Who knows?

I would say just keep your head up, continue approaching, and think big picture.

Ahhha cool.
Good stuff Man.

To clarify for my learning.
The double text at 11:30 in the morning was right then and there when we exchanged info.
I forgot to include her name in the initial text, (and to remember her name) so I double text Chloe...

Chases articles and many coaches say you seed the date, and check for logistics in the initial conversation - which is the whole reason WHY you'd get her number.
A number in it-self is useless - it's a bridge from the initial meeting to get her on a one-on-one meet up.

Chases articles talk about an ice-breaker which is what I was trying to do with the 7pm text.
I was trying to make it a "tease"

FRANKLY - texting is extremely tough for me in this area because I almost only use texting for work. Or logistics. Short sweet to the point.
If I want casual conversations I do it in a phone call or in-person. So social texting is pretty foreign to me.

During our initial interaction, she joked about her friends saying she should be an Actress. I dropped in that I work in the Industry and that Acting is like "crazy hard" from my experience. Then when I seeded the date and checked for her schedule she said she was busy with school early in the week, but would have time later in the week. I said, yeah that'll work for me too, and then I dropped how I'd be working on Stage for this "fancy film" Mon - Tues.
Why I thought it would be cool to show her the Stage Set...

Useful info I can apply to my Quota of 10 Solid Day Game Approaches I gotta do this week.
Already did one yesterday, and one this morning, but I felt like they were more "warm-ups" than Solid...

 

[AdamC]

So I just googled "how to get a solid number" and got these notes from on of the recommended videos - from the first interaction in Day Game...

1. Get her to Qualify Herself - not appearance based
2. Make Future Plans - "seed the date"
3. Text yourself right away - ideally from her phone - so she messaged you first, and both texts exchange names.
Try to get her to save your name in her phone - not sure how to do this

*Stay 5 minutes after getting the number (if possible) and build comfort
*While staying 5 minutes after, get a rough idea of her general schedule so you know when to best text her (i.e. not in the middle of class, work or gym, etc...)

Thoughts from experience Fellas???

 

[alexlaguma]

Some good advice from the other guys here.

Main thing is to keep approaching and field test what works for you in terms of texting / scheduling dates. If you read back through my posts when i started in April I was getting tonnes of numbers but no dates. Then through trial and error I’ve got to the point where I’m converting a good percentage of numbers to dates. Now I need to actually start converting the dates to lays (pathetic ratio right now lol). I have some logistical challenges which I was telling @Atlas IV about the other day

Texting was a tough one for me to crack but it’s possible to find your way through it. One observation from me is you need to find your own style and stick to it. @DoWhatWorks has a really good post on this and I’ve pretty much mirrored my style on his. I basically send very few texts and don’t try anything cute or funny. I send the odd occasional dry witty comment. The weird thing is since I’ve started texting like this (which is more in line with my personality generally) I get girls sending me messages full of laughing emojis. It’s kind of like they end up chasing me (at least over text) because I’m not trying to impress them or make them laugh or think of witty one liners. I’m definitely finding it easier to schedule dates.

One way I’ve started to think about it is your texting should mimic how you want to appear. And how I want to appear (and how I want to be generally) is -

1. Someone who is busy
2. Someone who has shit going on in their life
3. Although I’m definitely interested in them, texting them is not my priority in life. I'm not spending ages thinking of something to say

Also to answer your original question to me, I wait about 5 hours before sending that 'hey, nice to meet you text'. If its night game I'll send it the next day. Unless i think theres a chance of SNL in which case text them that night.

 

[AdamC]

Some good advice from the other guys here.

Main thing is to keep approaching and field test what works for you in terms of texting / scheduling dates. If you read back through my posts when i started in April I was getting tonnes of numbers but no dates. Then through trial and error I’ve got to the point where I’m converting a good percentage of numbers to dates. Now I need to actually start converting the dates to lays (pathetic ratio right now lol). I have some logistical challenges which I was telling @Atlas IV about the other day

Texting was a tough one for me to crack but it’s possible to find your way through it. One observation from me is you need to find your own style and stick to it. @DoWhatWorks has a really good post on this and I’ve pretty much mirrored my style on his. I basically send very few texts and don’t try anything cute or funny. I send the odd occasional dry witty comment. The weird thing is since I’ve started texting like this (which is more in line with my personality generally) I get girls sending me messages full of laughing emojis. It’s kind of like they end up chasing me (at least over text) because I’m not trying to impress them or make them laugh or think of witty one liners. I’m definitely finding it easier to schedule dates.

One way I’ve started to think about it is your texting should mimic how you want to appear. And how I want to appear (and how I want to be generally) is -

1. Someone who is busy
2. Someone who has shit going on in their life
3. Although I’m definitely interested in them, texting them is not my priority in life. I'm not spending ages thinking of something to say

Also to answer your original question to me, I wait about 5 hours before sending that 'hey, nice to meet you text'. If its night game I'll send it the next day. Unless i think theres a chance of SNL in which case text them that night.

Hey Alex,

So I just used a variation on your "hey, nice to meet you" on a younger girl I Day Gamed earlier today:

HER: Daria
ME: Hey Daria you already saved my phone number

Two above were with her. I actually talked out the saved my phone number, and realized - she already saved my number. She giggled but had to go.

A little less than 5 hours I sent:
ME: And, fun meeting you earlier...

We'll see if she bites. Otherwise - tomorrow - I'll do the picture thing with comment that Atlas talked about.
She's my second solid approach today. First - another actual Model at Whole Foods in Burbank - (makes a living in print and runway) really good set, but - "I probably shouldn't go out to coffee with you cuz I have a boyfriend"
I have to do 3 more Solid Approaches tonight at this Arts Festival to meet my quota...

 

[AdamC]

Hey Alex,

So I just used a variation on your "hey, nice to meet you" on a younger girl I Day Gamed earlier today:

HER: Daria
ME: Hey Daria you already saved my phone number

Two above were with her. I actually talked out the saved my phone number, and realized - she already saved my number. She giggled but had to go.

A little less than 5 hours I sent:
ME: And, fun meeting you earlier...

We'll see if she bites. Otherwise - tomorrow - I'll do the picture thing with comment that Atlas talked about.
She's my second solid approach today. First - another actual Model at Whole Foods in Burbank - (makes a living in print and runway) really good set, but - "I probably shouldn't go out to coffee with you cuz I have a boyfriend"
I have to do 3 more Solid Approaches tonight at this Arts Festival to meet my quota...

Boom from "How to Get a Solid Number from Day Game" to getting a "Solid Number from Day Game..."
From the tips above of course.

Daria text back around 9:30pm
HER: It was indeed

Now - Value text midday tomorrow trying to spark banter. Banter lead to - "so how's your schedule looking next week?"
Offer and soft close

Unless there are other suggestions - not just for me - for those trying to figure this stuff out as well, who happen on this post.
(Still have 6 more Approaches to meet my quota for the week - oye....)