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How to Graduate to Hotter Girls

ramirezs316

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I've been getting pretty good with dating attractive and cute girls. Dates and lays have been going up. But I'm still not seeing or sleeping with the types of girls I am really attracted to. I'm a good looking, high value guy with ambitions, good fashion sense and above average communication skills. But it seems I'm stuck on only getting out girls who I find attractive up to a point. It seems like girls who are high value head turners are just impossible for me to get out on dates.

I got one girl's number off her instagram after we liked each other's pictures. She was an amateur lingerie/nude model. So naturally sexy. We chatted and decided to grab a drink. Unfortunately this was around the holidays, so Christmas and New Year's made it hard to schedule. Right after, just as soon as her texts to schedule started drying up, her modeling gigs and pictures went from amateur to total professional. Now she looked like an instagram star who doesn't have time for texting, dating, or fucking regular guys. It was difficult not to feel like she had become too "fantasy world hot" for me.

A few months back, I met this stunning EDM chick at a club-- type of girl who I never get to talk to. We exchanged numbers and I was able to set up the logistics of the date a week later. She then asked for my instagram to check me out. No harm so I give it to her. Then she never texts back to confirm the date. It felt like she had found some incompatibility or undesirable factor in my pictures (which I try hard to create a sexy profile), like on paper I just didn't match up with her status.

Whether she is online or in real life, countless times I've gotten a girl-who-I'm-100%-attracted-to's number but it never pans out even when I'm efficient with texting and moving fast. And these are girls with genuine interest. I've learned not to place girls I find way more attractive on a pedestal, but it feels so tough to graduate to the girls I really want to be going out with. I try to treat them just like any other girl but the results aren't coming. Is this just an issue that time and experience will take care of? As you learn more, are the girls you want easier to get?
 

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Hey Ramirezs,

I was puzzled by your same problem for a bit: "Why can't I get the super hotties, when I get the attractive cute girls with little effort?" The answer is in the data (numbers). How many girls have you approached this month that you would define as hot vs how many girls that you have approached that were cute? I'm going to guess that you have approached A LOT more cute girls than hot ones, which explains the discrepancy in results. The reason you have more success with the cute ones is simply because there is more of them around in the general population.

Do you know how many approaches you have to do to get a cute lay? 15? 30? 100? Whatever that number is, approach that number of "hot" chicks to solve your problem. Make a tally of every hot chick you approached, so you KNOW exactly how many you've asked out (Instagram doesn't count haha). It's likely that you have over-estimated how many you've approached for the reason that the rejections of really hot girls tend to be more memorable.
 
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ramirezs316

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ProblemSolving said:
Hey Ramirezs,

I was puzzled by your same problem for a bit: "Why can't I get the super hotties, when I get the attractive cute girls with little effort?" The answer is in the data (numbers). How many girls have you approached this month that you would define as hot vs how many girls that you have approached that were cute? I'm going to guess that you have approached A LOT more cute girls than hot ones, which explains the discrepancy in results. The reason you have more success with the cute ones is simply because there is more of them around in the general population.

Do you know how many approaches you have to do to get a cute lay? 15? 30? 100? Whatever that number is, approach that number of "hot" chicks to solve your problem. Make a tally of every hot chick you approached, so you KNOW exactly how many you've asked out (Instagram doesn't count haha). It's likely that you have over-estimated how many you've approached for the reason that the rejections of really hot girls tend to be more memorable.

I figured this has been the case. I haven't been going out as much, but I noticed many of the numbers I've gotten in person have been from more attractive girls. I do online a lot because of my schedule and because I probably needed a break from going out. Now that things are going pretty well job wise and health wise, I should start again. A few months ago I went out on a string of dates with this little hottie, but she was such a pain in the ass to see/try get into bed that it fizzled. Two years ago, when I started going out more on my own, I got dates with very hot girls. I even got a lay with a total sex bomb without even trying. I guess I've been focusing too much at online girls, which of course its easy to get the cute girls offline.
 

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If you're looking to get hot girls online, stick to Tinder, POF, and OKC. Instagram is for girls to collect fans and orbiters. Your ability to get with the hot girls online will depend on your pics, location (the closer the better), and of course, the number of girls you hit up.

ramirezs316 said:
Two years ago, when I started going out more on my own, I got dates with very hot girls. I even got a lay with a total sex bomb without even trying. I guess I've been focusing too much at online girls, which of course its easy to get the cute girls offline.

See? It wasn't that you had to do anything different with these girls, it's just that you have to approach more of them.
 

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Hey Ramirez,

I probably asked this question several times on here when it was an issue I was having. I'd recommend looking back some old threads I started 1 to 2 years ago.

Same problem. Getting better but not quite the girls I wanted. Franco and some of the elders gave awesome advice in those threads even though it took me a while to eventually crack.

Few things to note from what I've learned since. Hot doesn't always equal quality. Sometimes it does and we're talking about unicorns there. Find the type of girls you truely like meeting. For example, while super glam hot club girls are nice to look at, I found I didn't click with their personality, likes, lifestyle as I get older. The reason I say that is... don't asked for hotter girls, ask how to get quality girls. And by quality, I mean, qualities which you like or admire. Those can be physical or other.


In the end, for me, it was just attitude and exposure. Even though I thought I was "the same" around hotter girls, I wasn't really. I was afraid to mess up and it probably showed in my body language too. I've been seeing a really great girl lately who I'd have been more intimidated by 2 years ago. I feel really relaxed around here and we bust each others balls a lot. It's fun. In the beginning I wasn't just relaxing and doing this enough. Strangely, just being more comfortable to "be myself", like I would act around friends, was all it took.
 

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Estate said:
In the end, for me, it was just attitude and exposure. Even though I thought I was "the same" around hotter girls, I wasn't really. I was afraid to mess up and it probably showed in my body language too. I've been seeing a really great girl lately who I'd have been more intimidated by 2 years ago. I feel really relaxed around here and we bust each others balls a lot. It's fun. In the beginning I wasn't just relaxing and doing this enough. Strangely, just being more comfortable to "be myself", like I would act around friends, was all it took.

agree man. You don't "graduate" to hotter girls. You just need to get out of your own way =)
 
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