How to make female friends? What are your experiences with female friendship?

[Whiteheart]

There is that general advice on this forum and @Chase also once personally wrote me to apply it. It is to find female friends, from obvious reasons. I would like to hear your experiences and how much actually you benefited from being female friend.

Here are my experiences about friend zone:

• Majority of women would be on scale from cold to really enthusiastic when they accidentally run into me somewhere. Usually, latter. We would have good, funny, flirty, somewhat relatable conversation, they would get as much attention and good feeling as they can and then would politely reject me, walk away and wouldn’t express any interest to interact with me until we accidentally meet again next time. Then cycle repeats again and again. Sometimes they would need something from me so they would enter in number 2 category (below).
• Minority of women that have similar personality or type to me would want to be genuine friend to some point. Especially if they could potentially have business benefits and favors from me. They would go to friend zoned date. However, besides their company, in most cases they would offer me very little advantages from that friendship. Also, they would regularly sleep with some other guy who don’t offer them much favors, while in the same time would ask them from me more and more. Also, in some cases these women would have some humiliation attitude toward me (hey, look at Whiteheart, he is just like this little boy from kindergarten). In the end when they find some suitable provider or don’t need more services from me, they would cut/significantly decrease all interactions with me.
• Minor minority of women would give me false interest signals in order to keep me together with them. They are ready to go on dates, telling me deepest thing about themselves and spend a lot of time with me. They want me to do everything what their boyfriend would do, except to not get sex for that. When I finally discover their true intentions and refuse to participate, they go deeply disappointed how men don’t value female friendship and sleep with some other guy.

As you can see there wasn’t much benefits from being female friend. More similar girls want goods while less similar girls want free attention and good feelings when we accidentally meet somewhere and literally nothing besides that.

Did anyone had some benefits from being female companion? And how did you succeed to find female friends that are dissimilar to you (these women want nothing with me)? Generally, what are your experiences?

I know that seduction community advice, to be friend with women but majority of women don’t want anything with you (besides short-term attention) and those who do don’t offer anything in friendship.

Until now, my experience was that it isn’t worth any time and these women are time and benefits consumers who don’t sexually value you at all and besides those who can help you with something, most of these women really don’t deserve anything.

 

[Lover]

If you become friends with a girl, you can meet her friends too! You are already socially "approved" if a girl invites you to an event where her friends will come too. Then you show that you are a cool guy, and you might hit it up with one of her friends or other girls at the event. Maybe she will even go as far as to tell other girls what a catch you are and to hook up with you. This is the best benefit I know from friendships with girls. Of course you have to be the kind of guy that they would like to introduce to their friends.

The only other benefit I can see from friendships with girls is deep conversations or when you need a shoulder to cry on lol :') girls can be great listeners if you let them, and none of you fall for the other afterwards. [Edit: I will advice against this if there is any risk you will fall for the girl]

 

[ulrich]

The whole point of being friends with women is so you can better understand how they think, how they feel, what are the kind of men they go for and separate the things they say from the things they do.

This way, next time you meet a woman who is similar to your friend, you can better connect with her and read her signals correctly.

It’s market research.

Its not: “I’ll be her friend and we will eventually end up in bed”… more likely if you become her friend you’re LESS likely to end up fucking her… so you’re not going for the lay, you’re going for the insights.

 

[Conquistador]

As you can see there wasn’t much benefits from being female friend. More similar girls want goods while less similar girls want free attention and good feelings when we accidentally meet somewhere and literally nothing besides that.

Often guys have a ridiculously broad definition of "friend" when it comes to girls because they don't understand what a healthy and intimate guy-girl friendship actually looks like.

Did anyone had some benefits from being female companion?

Of course! Although I haven't yet upgraded any of my benefits packages I'm still figuring everything out

And how did you succeed to find female friends that are dissimilar to you (these women want nothing with me)?

This is an important point.

For me sometimes there's instant chemistry with certain girls who are "my type" (both platonically and romantically) like in this journal post or that time I tried Omegle (text) and traded emails after an hour of great conversation when she was like "don't forget me stranger!" (ofc I didn't).

Well, there has to be common ground somewhere. Even if it's simply that life threw you together on a long evening bus ride and that I like to talk to both tourists and British people, like with a British tourist girl I met over the summer who in retrospect was actually fairly into me (I was too inexperienced at the time to realize, as she was plain both in looks and expressiveness).

You don't have to have a lot in common, so long as you build rapport and trust.

I know that seduction community advice, to be friend with women but majority of women don’t want anything with you (besides short-term attention) and those who do don’t offer anything in friendship.

You may be trying too hard.
Making friends with a girl is often much like making friends with a guy. (Sometimes it can be more like a set though.)
However, being friends with a girl is quite different than with a guy (one of the main pluses). Guys, to an extent, can actually bond by being transactional, if the transactions are fair. With ladies, it... doesn't work that way.

Until now, my experience was that it isn’t worth any time and these women are time and benefits consumers who don’t sexually value you at all and besides those who can help you with something, most of these women really don’t deserve anything.

A strong man isn't afraid to ignore girls like that. You want to be friends with girls who open up their hearts and minds to you, the way you secretly wish they'd open up their legs.
As to sexual value, it's OK if they're not personally into you so long as they recognize and respect your masculinity and sexiness. Although, usually you won't know for sure how much or how little they're sexually attracted to you.
Sexual tension, playfulness, nonsexual intimacy, and male-female dynamics might be a little too advanced to discuss right now, just bottom line don't be a simp.