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Hey boys,
I've done it.
It was a goal of mine; first I want to see if I can handle it, then I want to see if I can succeed with it.
The "it" I refer to is a very strong reputation as a "player" or a "man-whore." Over the past few weeks I've been running day-game and bar-game like a monster, racking up ~5 dates per week, have slept with a few girls, and fooled around with many, many more. I've also burned some bridges and fucked up along the way, as is natural on the path to mastery.
And last night at the bars, I had many girls tell me various things
"I heard about your game...you're quite the player"
"I heard you're a man-whore now. You sleep with anyone you can get."
"I heard you're taking the machine-gun approach to dating and just going after everyone"
"I've talked to the girls you've slept with"
The last comment was from a girl I'd already slept with when she had a boyfriend; she's single now and was really into me before her friends kept cockblocking in favor of a "nice guy" she's going to date soon.
Derivations of this are abound in my interactions now. The "man-whore" comment I inquired about and the girl told me that she'd heard it from guys in one of the fraternities on campus. Why are guys talking about me to girls? I presume jealousy. Now, I'm a pretty popular/well-liked guy and have many friends who actively help me during interactions, but as is natural when you climb up the social ladder (though I'm not intentionally "social-ladder climbing" in the competitive sense), is that you'll acquire "haters" (I need to start rapping now).
There are various cons and pros about this reputation
Pros
- Preselection; people know I date and sleep with lots of women.
- Skill; when I interact with girls, they'll expect me to know what I'm doing
- Social value; I inevitably make lots of friends and allies being as social as I am
- Abundance mentality
- Sexual preselection; I've heard many rumors about my escapades in bed and my proficiency
Cons
- Girls have their walls up and are guarded about my intentions, even though they fully know my intentions
- Other jealous girls can EASILY cockblock me by giving the girls a few snippets of "he's just gonna try and sleep with you" (even if this would normally help me, to save face and maintain a "pure" or boyfriend-seeking appearance, girls will reject me - they don't want to be seen as "another number" by sleeping with me)
- If I DO fuckup, girls will also hear about this, and likely they'll hear about more of these than my successes
- Jealous guys will also run frequent interference
Solution?
I have a few things in my favor: lots of allies, generally well-liked, and very well known.
But I need something more. Should I just delete Facebook (I already don't post anymore, but it's a VERY helpful tool for staying in contact with European friends)? I've already deleted snapchat and cut down my texting game BIG TIME to make myself seem more scarce and mysterious. I'm starting to read reputation management books; I'm creating more bonds and allies in other organizations; I'm very polite with girls who I don't want to sleep with but who chase me hard; I've learned my lesson about boasting of conquests and vow to not speak about girls with anyone who doesn't first bring it up.
But I need something more...something that can prevent the "man-whore" status' negatives from trumping the positives. Do I need to slow down and be more selective with who I date? Am I making girls not feel special when I approach them, especially if they're friends with other girls I've approached?
I need to construct a smart response to when girls say this. One for girls I want to sleep with and one for girls who I don't.
To girls I want to sleep with: maybe add a vulnerability byronic quality - "It's really unfair for you to judge me like that; I didn't peg you for someone who listens to rumors, most of which are probably untrue." And then after this, act aloof and somewhat disinterested, almost as though you're having second thoughts about her, doubting your attraction.
It's not really defending myself, it's more of appealing to the very pervasive "don't judge me, I am who I am" tone that many songs are now expressing. If you can get the girl in your shoes and understand the injustice of rumors and gossip, it may win her over.
To girls I don't want to sleep with but still want to be polite and friends with: "why are you listening to rumors? Most of them are probably untrue." And then act aloof and disinterested.
It's less focused on yourself, your qualities, and her empathy for you and more focused on social maneuvering.
This is going to be a very arduous journey, but I'm excited for it. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions and comments! I know that my other thread "College Game" in the General boards is very similar to this, but now I have concrete data to work with, and much more specific problems.
May you all become powerful beyond measure,
Anatman
I've done it.
It was a goal of mine; first I want to see if I can handle it, then I want to see if I can succeed with it.
The "it" I refer to is a very strong reputation as a "player" or a "man-whore." Over the past few weeks I've been running day-game and bar-game like a monster, racking up ~5 dates per week, have slept with a few girls, and fooled around with many, many more. I've also burned some bridges and fucked up along the way, as is natural on the path to mastery.
And last night at the bars, I had many girls tell me various things
"I heard about your game...you're quite the player"
"I heard you're a man-whore now. You sleep with anyone you can get."
"I heard you're taking the machine-gun approach to dating and just going after everyone"
"I've talked to the girls you've slept with"
The last comment was from a girl I'd already slept with when she had a boyfriend; she's single now and was really into me before her friends kept cockblocking in favor of a "nice guy" she's going to date soon.
Derivations of this are abound in my interactions now. The "man-whore" comment I inquired about and the girl told me that she'd heard it from guys in one of the fraternities on campus. Why are guys talking about me to girls? I presume jealousy. Now, I'm a pretty popular/well-liked guy and have many friends who actively help me during interactions, but as is natural when you climb up the social ladder (though I'm not intentionally "social-ladder climbing" in the competitive sense), is that you'll acquire "haters" (I need to start rapping now).
There are various cons and pros about this reputation
Pros
- Preselection; people know I date and sleep with lots of women.
- Skill; when I interact with girls, they'll expect me to know what I'm doing
- Social value; I inevitably make lots of friends and allies being as social as I am
- Abundance mentality
- Sexual preselection; I've heard many rumors about my escapades in bed and my proficiency
Cons
- Girls have their walls up and are guarded about my intentions, even though they fully know my intentions
- Other jealous girls can EASILY cockblock me by giving the girls a few snippets of "he's just gonna try and sleep with you" (even if this would normally help me, to save face and maintain a "pure" or boyfriend-seeking appearance, girls will reject me - they don't want to be seen as "another number" by sleeping with me)
- If I DO fuckup, girls will also hear about this, and likely they'll hear about more of these than my successes
- Jealous guys will also run frequent interference
Solution?
I have a few things in my favor: lots of allies, generally well-liked, and very well known.
But I need something more. Should I just delete Facebook (I already don't post anymore, but it's a VERY helpful tool for staying in contact with European friends)? I've already deleted snapchat and cut down my texting game BIG TIME to make myself seem more scarce and mysterious. I'm starting to read reputation management books; I'm creating more bonds and allies in other organizations; I'm very polite with girls who I don't want to sleep with but who chase me hard; I've learned my lesson about boasting of conquests and vow to not speak about girls with anyone who doesn't first bring it up.
But I need something more...something that can prevent the "man-whore" status' negatives from trumping the positives. Do I need to slow down and be more selective with who I date? Am I making girls not feel special when I approach them, especially if they're friends with other girls I've approached?
I need to construct a smart response to when girls say this. One for girls I want to sleep with and one for girls who I don't.
To girls I want to sleep with: maybe add a vulnerability byronic quality - "It's really unfair for you to judge me like that; I didn't peg you for someone who listens to rumors, most of which are probably untrue." And then after this, act aloof and somewhat disinterested, almost as though you're having second thoughts about her, doubting your attraction.
It's not really defending myself, it's more of appealing to the very pervasive "don't judge me, I am who I am" tone that many songs are now expressing. If you can get the girl in your shoes and understand the injustice of rumors and gossip, it may win her over.
To girls I don't want to sleep with but still want to be polite and friends with: "why are you listening to rumors? Most of them are probably untrue." And then act aloof and disinterested.
It's less focused on yourself, your qualities, and her empathy for you and more focused on social maneuvering.
This is going to be a very arduous journey, but I'm excited for it. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions and comments! I know that my other thread "College Game" in the General boards is very similar to this, but now I have concrete data to work with, and much more specific problems.
May you all become powerful beyond measure,
Anatman