Huge female player forum on Reddit

[Nightlife]

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I've been around for a while and this is probably the biggest female oriented "game" or relationships forum I've seen. Extremely fascinating. On the one hand it is quite toxic and "anti-male" but its interesting to read posts that are this explicit and brutal coming from women. Like they've been radicalized by the manosphere into becoming an inverse-manosphere.

A lot of stuff that they don't usually say is being said openly. It's a very interesting place we're at culturally if stuff like this is out in the open now. Perhaps a result of zoomer chicks not being subjected to quite the same levels of shaming and thus having the balls to say this kinda shit? Not sure what to make of it but I thought I'd put a link here for those who are curious about the way our society is changing

 

[Lover]

I don't find it toxic and anti-male at all. It seems they want high value men over men with low or no value. They're tired of average men. I would rather call it anti-average. But the high value man in their eyes seems to be a high-end provider which, to me, sounds like their definition of a unicorn.

I find some of their self-improvement advice to be common knowledge by now. Set hard limits for yourself, don't do anything you don't want to, and don't be a doormat overall. One piece of advice that actually took me by surprise was: "With regard to the high standards that you’ve set for others, meet them first yourself." This screams responsibility for yourself (which I personally like), and most women are in the "he should like me for me"-boat even if they don't like a guy for being himself lol

Maybe I haven't looked around enough, but I don't see them discuss how to add value to the life of a high value man - the kind of value that he is looking for. Maybe it will come eventually, but it's highly unlikely since it's about self-improvement. I won't know since I won't check out their forum again.

Overall, I think it's a neat women's forum for self-improvement and how to identify and avoid men of low value. Kudos to them.

Should it change anything for us men here? No, not at all. Aim for her to put you in the lover-role first. And if you want things to continue for a long time, then let the provider-role come later.

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

It's my favorite sub on Reddit,

Here's a good one - https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/g6i5l3
"He went to LSE and went to Princeton for masters and now working for hedgefund.

The guy has to fight for my attention not the other way around."

It's very funny what they "value".

WIA

 

[Velasco]

Memes of their subreddit

Just a bunch of jaded spinsters rationalizing they made the right decision by choosing their career over marriage. nothing to see here. you didn't really think these reddit posters were 21 year old HB9s did you? lol

 

[Chrance]

The fact she’s using tinder for something “serious” says something.

IMO if you’re a girl and you need to use dating apps to meet someone then there’s something off with your head (in general of course, same with guys btw)

That reddit is a mix of toxic and interesting. I don’t know how much it reflects the average woman.

I’d be interested to read a technical manual or forum - like MM, nextasf, 60yoc, girlschase, etc - dedicated to improving woman’s dating goals, wrtiiten by women

I remember there was the redpillwomen subreddit which was interesting to read awhile ago as well

I think the toxicity you see there and in the manosphere is a result of the natural antagonism between what men want and what women want, so shouldn’t be discouraging. Some empathy there lol

 

[Train]

I took a quick look and it feels toxic with the memes and what they focus on. Kinda like MGTOW.

I get the frustrations women have with men. But "high-quality" men won't put up with that bitterness. Same for "high-quality" women.

 

[Chrance]

@Train their jadedness wouldn’t be a big deal if they actually had a good strategy and art (field tested) to what they’re doing. Maybe they do, havent read everything. Reading jaded shit can rub off on you though lol. I can respect a woman whose like “I’m going to get and keep that specific hot guy” - imo there’s more to lose than a PUAs typical goals (ONSs, LTRs, etc)

 

[BigPapa]

Me personally I find it silly and cute.

Men won the sexes war once women started pole dancing as a hobby to please men between the 4 walls

 

[Velasco]

I can respect a woman whose like “I’m going to get and keep that specific hot guy”

The memes I posted were the highest upvoted memes at the time (haven't checked that subreddit in a while) so its safe to say those are the thoughts shared by the overwhelming majority of women on that site. Seems like their strategy to attract a high value man is to be second-rate men lol.

 

[Train]

@Train their jadedness wouldn’t be a big deal if they actually had a good strategy and art (field tested) to what they’re doing. Maybe they do, havent read everything. Reading jaded shit can rub off on you though lol. I can respect a woman whose like “I’m going to get and keep that specific hot guy” - imo there’s more to lose than a PUAs typical goals (ONSs, LTRs, etc)

Tell me about it. I only saw a handful of memes and I could feel my blood boiling lmao.

 

[greenleaf]

I’d be interested to read a technical manual or forum - like MM, nextasf, 60yoc, girlschase, etc - dedicated to improving woman’s dating goals, wrtiiten by women

I think I found exactly that (on reddit) a year or so ago. Be damned if I can remember the sub, but it was basically exactly the same as the stuff we have here and elsewhere, but flipped around!

So lots of emphasis on charisma and self improvement and stuff. Some technical stuff to do with teasing (or 'negging') and showing you are high value through stories (dhv?) etc and inner game stuff like 'men don't care about looks' type posts etc. Quite interesting, tbh! I'll see if I can find the sub

 

[readjusting]

I think I found exactly that (on reddit) a year or so ago. Be damned if I can remember the sub, but it was basically exactly the same as the stuff we have here and elsewhere, but flipped around!

So lots of emphasis on charisma and self improvement and stuff. Some technical stuff to do with teasing (or 'negging') and showing you are high value through stories (dhv?) etc and inner game stuff like 'men don't care about looks' type posts etc. Quite interesting, tbh! I'll see if I can find the sub

Same. I remembered finding the female dating stuff a few months ago on Reddit and they all have self-improvement, charisma and stuff, but I couldn’t remember where that is

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

If you ever asked yourself what would happened if the red pill reddit sub was all women....here you have it. I bet reddit doesn't quarantine it like it did the TheDonald or Red Pill sub though.

 

[YS.]

They are almost as bitter and delusional as the Red Pill people.

Endearing.

 

[Sub-Zero]

I should haven’t clicked that forum. They sound so fuckin stupid.

 

[Chase]

@Chrance,

I’d be interested to read a technical manual or forum - like MM, nextasf, 60yoc, girlschase, etc - dedicated to improving woman’s dating goals, wrtiiten by women

The Rules is the classic book on this:

All the Rules: Time-tested Secrets for Capturing the Heart of Mr. Right - Kindle edition by Fein, Ellen, Schneider, Sherrie. Health, Fitness & Dieting Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.

All the Rules: Time-tested Secrets for Capturing the Heart of Mr. Right - Kindle edition by Fein, Ellen, Schneider, Sherrie. Download it once and read it on your Kindle device, PC, phones or tablets. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading All the Rules...

www.amazon.com

There's also the website The Feminine Woman, which is about as close as you'll get to a female version of girslchase.com:

The Feminine Woman - Dating, Love & Relationship Advice for Women

The Feminine Woman is a place and community where women can learn more about getting in touch with their femininity, showing up as a high value woman and create a more cohesive and passionate relationship for themselves.

www.thefemininewoman.com

A friend of mine runs a site and YouTube channel for women (though he's a man... but also has female coaches and presenters):

Matthew Coast - Relationship Advice

Dating tips for women who are looking to get into a committed, lasting relationship with a quality man. If you're looking to attract Mr. Right and you're tir...

www.youtube.com

Hector was on a couple months ago:

The women's comments on that are a blast!

Chase

 

[Protean]

Just pursued the subreddit

And yeah its has you guys said, its more or less the female version of MGTOW and TheRedPill.

I mean just have a read this post on plating straight off their wiki:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/dff0xo
Or this one on establishing queen energy (lol)
https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/e5hyzx
The problem with this angle of approach is two fold:

1. Assuming Men want the same thing as Women One of my favorite articles @Chase has penned was A Guy with [X] Is Like A Girl with [Y] where he goes over different qualities women value in men and the analogous quality that men value in women. In it you'll see that men and women are not only different, but they value completely different things. So for the FDS community, taking the techniques TRP taught and using them will NOT net them the results they expect. They think spinning plates, or demanding that men chase will get them a "high value guy" and unfortunately that's not how things work. In general trying to dominate a guy will not make him attracted to you. They're not women. Just because women are seeking a dominate male does not mean men want the same thing in women. Chads don't want Chadettes.
2. Coming From a Toxic Place: The view of dating that TRP and FDS push comes from the same toxic place of distrust of the opposite sex. One one hand I sympathize with both groups. Getting burned, especially in matters of the heart, is never fun and can leave anyone bitter and jaded. But man going through r/FemaleDatingStrategy and r/MGTOW back to back may be the best example of horseshoe theory I've ever seen. I'd be miserable if hung out in those types of places too much man. Don't get me wrong, one must guard against those looking to take advantage of them, but not to this degree of AWALT or "Performative empathy". Not all women are looking to cheat at the first opportunity to ride the cock carousel. Not all guys are PUA Lotharios.

That being said they do teach a lot of common sense things that anyone who is dating should follow (setting boundaries and having standards).

But on the whole it seems to be a community of bitter women, who chose FDS over feminism as their coping mechanism.

Protean

P.S. Saw this on their side bar and it gave me a good laugh

Are you interested in a darker version of FDS? Our sister subreddit, /r/DarkTriadWomen, is for you.

r/DarkTriadWomen
A space for dark triad women (and those aspiring to be one) to share amoral strategies to maximize their outcomes in life. Morality is for suckers.

Unfortunately you can't view the page without approval from their mods, but I'd kill to see what type of shit they share on there haha

 

[Train]

Sometimes I get so focused on the men side of PUA that I forget women are working with similar concepts. Some healthy and others toxic.

I can only imagine the dark triad women tactics, hahaha

 

[readjusting]

My first reaction when seeing the subreddit is: "These girls can be seduced too" per the spirit of this gem by Chase:

How to Get Girls Who Seem Closed Off or Impossible

Some girls are closed off when you approach them. Some reject you – HARD! Some might even seem impossible to get. Is there a way to get these girls… or is there not? Over on the discussion boards, we have of late had a dustup where a collection of several of our experienced members along with...

www.girlschase.com

But I have an introspection. Will I be influenced by the toxic thoughts? I'd like to think of myself as being hard to influence, that I can come in the swamp and come out with insights. But when examining my past, I have to admit that I'm more easily swayed than I thought. Thus for now I'd stick with the self-improvement people:

Huge female player forum on Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/ I've been around for a while and this is probably the biggest female oriented "game" or relationships forum I've seen. Extremely fascinating. On the one hand it is quite toxic and "anti-male" but its interesting to read posts that are this explicit...

www.skilledseducer.com

I remembered in the early day when I asked out a girl who turned out to work in real estate, older than me 3 years, paid for the date and shared a lot of insights about life. These partly shaped who I am today

 

[Mr.Rob]

Lol they have a field report tag (though they don't seem to know what an FR is).

Men who attempt to use PUA techniques are the lowest of the low. They completely lack character and integrity and have revealed themselves to be without scruples. They sacrifice their own self respect and reputation in their communities just in the hope they can con a woman into having sex with him under false pretenses. THEY HAVE NO SHAME

It's funny all the PUA techniques I've ever used I've never once had a woman call me out or even notice I was using a PUA technique.

All in all yeah it is a little sad to see a female equivalent of the manosphere. My guess from reading some of these posts is it probably attracts low caliber and physically less attractive women based on the way they talk about men (they're not getting approached by STUDS).

Sometimes when I watch old movies from the 40's and 50's I kind of wish things could go back to the simplicity of when men were men and women were women... and the sexes actually liked each other (more). A simpler time I suppose.