I wish it isnt true but I am scared if it is
- In the modrern world with social media and instgram women have more options than ever so value is sky high while men is the exact opposite
- It seems women dont like to help or educate men, infact sometimes torture them like joing the online gaming community and showing their bodies
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TL DR is that women can and often will move on from a relationship if they don't like the one with you, and think the one with someone else will be better.
And social media and online dating sites gives her 1000's more options that she had in the 90's. But she isn't excited at wading through 90% dick pics and low effort messages.
Quick history lesson
Red Pill 1.0 - The Original PUAs borrowed the idea the Red Pill/Blue Pill metaphor from The Matrix. All the stuff that's been taught by religion, Hollywood, etc was not sufficient for a man to get the kind of girls that he wants, the type of lifestyle that he wants. There was this "hidden" code of what actually made girls attractive.
Keep in mind this is the mid-to late 90s, early 00's.
Meeting and talking strangers was NORMAL.
The way to meet a girl was to say that you like her, try to take her out, buy her a drink, and then take her on months of dates before you "got lucky"
This was the Blue Pill. This is how most people met.
But there were guys that were able to meet girls, meet hot girls, and get some "action" on the same night.
These were outliers. These were people at the tail end of the Gaussian Distribution.
To explain why Average Jamal had to get a job, work out, and pray for a nice girl, while Darnell could just wink....
These
players were either Handsome, Athletes, Rich, or Famous or Infamous (bad boys). There was some fixed EXTERNAL quality about them that explained why they got girls. There had to be. There's always an explanation of why that guy is getting the girls.
And then there were naturals. He didn't necessarily have any of these traits, he was just a
natural with women.
Taking the Red Pill 1.0 was discovering this "naturals" secrets. Suddenly girls weren't complicated. The long story short was most of the traditional approaches were boring.
You would take the red pill, discover the secrets, see that this world, these arbitrary rules on how to attract and sleep with an attractive woman, just like Neo did - and suddenly could stop bullets.
So making more money, trying to from 15% body fat to 9% body fat, etc - all that stuff was put by the wayside. The conventional methods got you conventional results.
Turns out an average man could
merely change his personality and behavior and make those connections with women. It wasn't the external stuff that was the real "clincher" but how he used the interaction.
The real funny thing is, you could use a formula with canned lines and memorized scripts to get these amazing reactions with girls. I personally remember using 3's and 7's and getting this dynamite reaction that ended up in a SNL.
You didn't drastically change your looks, or suddenly become a billionaire, you just changed your mindset and then your actions.
You didn't even need to come up with anything.
It's still amazing to think about it. And one could update a lot of the routines, personalize them a bit, and get
better results today, because girls are not as used to offline approaches.
Red Pill 2.0 - Roosh, Roissy (Chateau Heartiste), and Rollo from the Manosphere (Dalrock and those guys - many of whom are traditional conservatives - American/Christian)
I think DC Bachelor started in 2006? Roosh was a student of Mystery. He was fairly successful. He wrote his stripped down version of MM, called Bang. He also started his blog. One of the commenters on his Blog, Roissy would have these social insights into why pick up worked.
But Roissy had a problem. He asked himself, why do I have to do all of this to get with a girl. Roosh noticed it too.
If you've ever gamed in DC, you know that the "market" is women in their mid to late 20's, very educated, and very into things like Yoga and Veganism. Not out of any sort of deeply held respect for Indian culture, it's just the cool thing to do for someone in her tax bracket/social class. It used to be Yoga, and now it's Soul Cycle and "Trap Yoga"
Roissy , at Roosh's urging, started his own blog, and he focused on the social issues with women, but he really meant women in DC.
Pick Up is a cure for a sick society. After years of successful pick up, he comes to the conclusion that women should not be like this. And he leans heavily into Evo Psych for his foundation.
Roosh, unhappy with what he saw as pampered and entitled Type A school girls, set off around the world to meet girls. He'd later start a forum.
Roissy gets doxxed and rebrands as Chateau Heartiste. He's never the same, imo.
Roosh does his series of "love tourist" books, where he talks about how to get laid in Latin America and Europe. He makes a mistake when he criticizes some European country. He tries to ride the wave of notoriety, but he becomes a persona non grata. He's never the same, imo.
At some point Gamer Gate happens, and he goes pretty hard in the paint against "SJW's" and "Liberals". Return of Kings (his other blog) and his Gamer Gate blog just feeds into this new scene that has nothing to do with pick up lines and ASD.
As Roosh gets caught in this Rage Against the Machine, the manosphere is coming together - with Roissy being a major voice. Let's just say some of what Roissy advocates leans into "biological determinism" and that is something discussed in those circles.
In my view, this nexus and 4Chan types, basically creates the Alt Right. But that's another discussion.
Rollo - is not a pickup artist, but he takes up the social aspects of increasing Feminism. He coins things like The Feminine Imperative and the thing I hate the most, "Sexual Market Value". Not because he's wrong, but because guys are literal mouth breathers, and they can't understand an argument/idea.
His first book is eye opening for guys that aren't successful at meeting women. And putting the political framework on the effects of Feminism, as well as the cultural framework - they bring in a whole lot of guys that don't care about going to bars/clubs and actually meeting and interacting with women.
Red Pill 3.0 - Rollo, Roosh, and Roissy - arguably the founders of the "movement" are not important anymore. It's guys like Entrepreneurs with Cars or Turd Flinging Monkey.
A lot of these guys have interesting things to say, they aren't all charlatans.
But They've taken the Evo-Psych arguments as gospel. Have vaulted direct approach, day game, and lifting as the holy trinity to get girls - but paradoxically, getting girls is not the point of The Red Pill. It's not supposed to be, but a good chunk of all of their discussions is about getting women.
The Red Pill Says - Getting bulk, stacking chips, being important in society is the key to getting girls. If you raise your SMV, the chick falls in line. If she gives you a shit test, agree and amplify. Easy, Peasy, Lemon Squeeezy.
These are the very things that PUA figured out were not sufficient to get girls. They aren't particularly efficient either. Instead of following the blue pill recipe, you had to change your mindset and learn new behaviors.
The Red Pill ideology goes further.
In a relationship, you must induce dread in order to keep her underground control. But if she cheats on you, remember AWALT. All Women Are Like That. She's not yours, it's just your turn.
Where I would argue that traditional pick up is about being flexible and reframing things, The Red Pill is about "holding frame" - i.e. being stubborn - not looking for things to change the girl's mood/perspective.
My way or the highway.
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So to answer the question, traditional pick up did consider Evo Psych. Things like pair bonds and dual sexual strategies were discussed, but not obsessed upon. Classic PUA didn't really care too much about "feminism". We cared as much as Al Bundy from Married with Children cared. She could believe that Santa Claus was real, she still wants to fuck.
As PUA got bigger, the industry leaders started to focus on the "social programming" aspects, because they had to systematically deprogram students in order to get them to adopt new behaviors. (and we see where that lead) That's the sort of issue you run into when you have a business that tries to convert people from A to B.
But now, the camps are firmly divided, and the Red Pill people keep spawning these horrible offshoots. Incels, Blackcels, Braincels, MGTOW, etc. All of them are basically trapped in their own mental prisons because of self limiting beliefs.
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As for how the Red Pill can make your game better, it can...if you already understand pickup AND you have a solid world view.
AWALT - If she's gonna cheat, no matter how good you are to her, no matter how good you become - GREAT. You don't have to put a lot into the relationship. And if you're the type of guy that values CONTROL of a relationship, the person who leasts cares is the one in control.
Hypergamy - If she's always trading up for bigger and better, looking for the lover and not the provider - 1) be bigger and better, 2) don't be the provider. Problem solved.
I could go on and on about what could be useful from the current mockery of what the Red Pill was - but
you're not going to learn that from their community.
They want to keep you scared.
There isn't much money being made, but as any veteran PUA knows - people get paid in psychic rewards. Convincing a guy to dump his GF because she liked a Celeb's photo on Instagram is a
WIN for them.
The whole movement used to attract relatively solid guys and basically covered the downside of women better than the commercial side of PUA has.
But now? It attracts guys in high school and college, who haven't had much success with women, in a time when it's harder to connect with women.
You need to decide what sort of life you want. What kind of world view you want to have.
Do you want to be constantly looking over your shoulder, trying to find some Ukrainian Virgin, and live your life according to God's Plan?
Or do you want to live in reality?
Good luck rookie
WIA
