I dont like rich guys

[matheth]

So i met this chick while daygaming who works in a pretty expensive nightclub and told me she gets constantly hit on by these guys. Ive also mentioned i work in IT and also that I work with americans. I think this led her to believe im just another one of these rich guys.

The thing is, after exchanging igs she followed me late at night and unfollowed in the morning. I still sent her a dm for the fucks of it combining a neg with an invitation to go out somwhere. She responded with a laugh and then
"Its not my fault youre rich, its an ick for me"

My question is wtf should i do with this tiny bitch (shes like 140cm lmao). Just to give some context she is clearly from a low class background but the funny thing is that i used to be very poor, probably even poorer than her but now im making bank.

I was thinking:
1) If im just a rich cunt tf you message me for
2) its an ick for u bc you havent been properly fucked by a rich guy
3) tf you talking about, you barely know me. Besides its your loss not mine

Among the three the last one seems to be the least confrontational.
What do you guys think?

 

[matheth]

I might be wrong but I believe she went into auto rejection?
Like she feels she isnt worthy enough for a rich guy so she makes all this shit up about how its an ick for her. Either that or she had bad experiences with rich guys before so its just a shit test.

I would have considered it as bad behavior if I hadnt negged her before but looking at the circumstances I believe its a combination of shit test + auto rejection.

Am i right?

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

how long did you speak to her for in daygame?

what was the neg you sent her on instagram?

maybe she just negged you back?

 

[matheth]

I spoke to her for about 30 mins or more
I sent her something like "I liked meeting you redneck shortie, i wanna have a drink with you"

I sent her something like
These rich guys at the bar must be very annoying, you dont know if im rich or not and some of them are cunts. I liked you and thats why i asked for your ig. If you want we can start again from scratch since im not mad after u unfollowed me haha"

She told me she unfollowed me bc i didnt text her quick enough

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

Yeah that sounds like there's been some miscalibration on your part, subtle stuff, but stuff that women see as a turn-off. More experience will fix that for you. If I have time later today I'll break down where I saw miscalibration, maybe it will be helpful.

My first advice would be, why not set a drink date DURING the 30 minutes you have her in person, rather than do it later via text? Works a lot better.

Bottom line, your connection to her wasn't strong enough, it's pretty much impossible to fix it over text if you couldn't fix it in 30 minutes in person... your best bet is to just throw her into your social pool now and only invite her to group outings, no more 1:1 invites.

 

[matheth]

Thanks, that would be really helpful. I managed to get her to follow me back and now im trying to get her on a date as a thanks for the follow trying to use the yes ladder stuff ive seen before. Maybe there is a chance, however slim it might be

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

Oh, you got her to follow you again? Nice job man. Maybe this can be salvaged yet. In that case I would make one more attempt at getting her out 1:1 but if that fails, back to the social pool option.

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

Can you screenshot your texts and upload them here (obviously blurring any personal information like her name or instagram handle)?

It's MUCH easier to check texts when you see them in the actual instagram window.

Also, hi @Karea Ricardus D.

Hector

 

[matheth]

Shits all in spanish and i used some slang so i dont think it would translate well. I think shes a bit attention whorish too so it wouldnt have really mattered what i said to her

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

Shits all in spanish and i used some slang so i dont think it would translate well. I think shes a bit attention whorish too so it wouldnt have really mattered what i said to her

bruh...you ain't gonna get bitches with that attitude. also i can just translate it and see the ebb and flow of texts but ok.

 

[matheth]

Yeah i know, i havent fucked or fapped in like 1 month and im getting pretty irritable which is not helping..
Heres the texts

 

[matheth]

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[MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla]

So i met this chick while daygaming who works in a pretty expensive nightclub and told me she gets constantly hit on by these guys. Ive also mentioned i work in IT and also that I work with americans. I think this led her to believe im just another one of these rich guys.

The thing is, after exchanging igs she followed me late at night and unfollowed in the morning. I still sent her a dm for the fucks of it combining a neg with an invitation to go out somwhere. She responded with a laugh and then
"Its not my fault youre rich, its an ick for me"

My question is wtf should i do with this tiny bitch (shes like 140cm lmao). Just to give some context she is clearly from a low class background but the funny thing is that i used to be very poor, probably even poorer than her but now im making bank.

I was thinking:
1) If im just a rich cunt tf you message me for
2) its an ick for u bc you havent been properly fucked by a rich guy
3) tf you talking about, you barely know me. Besides its your loss not mine

Among the three the last one seems to be the least confrontational.
What do you guys think?

Im starting to have these women en masse during dates. I kid you not just the other day.

Short end of the story was on a date with a chick who was a side chick to a rich guy, where the rich guy then ended up getting engaged to his main.

Continues talking and then left she texted me the next day she was asking to go out again and I replied “ why would I date a rejected side chick of a rich guy?”

This chick only “After” she got rejected by some guy wanted to go out with me as the next best option or atleast the way I have it framed.

Makes me wonder about social conditioning, “One man’s trash is another man’s treasure” I feel is just some lie. The real truth to me is that one man’s trash is every other man’s trash.

But off that discussion I always like talking about what I see happening in current game.

You have abunch of options with this girl. From what I’m reading you should do a small pause, two week minimum or so then ping again in a couple weeks when you need a lay with a flirty opener.

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

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I speak fluent Spanish, so does Hector and others here... this looks pretty good actually. She basically apologized (explained herself) for unfollowing you. When she said she doesn't drink alcohol, you could have suggested a coffee I guess? Then if she still turns that down, throw her in the pool and invite her to group outings.

@Hector Papi Castillo hey brother, long time!

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

That second text explaining that you may or may not be a rich boy was a big issue. WAY too defensive. She was probably just giving you shit and maybe is frustrated/horny about some rich guys who fucked her over or pissed her off. Girls don't actively dislike guys with money lol, she's just associating a bad experience with being richer. But you got way too defensive about it and that was the beginning of the end.

It was made even more clear when she said "I stopped following you because you didn't text me."

She was the one who got butthurt, see?

Think of it less as "rich = bad" and more "fuckboy = bad."

Fuckboy just means whatever she doesn't like in some guy who fucked her and dumped her (a rich guy did it).

Then you got her to follow you by being a bit persistent. This increased attainability so she liked you more.....

Then you fucked up the logistics conversation. Don't text girls "i'll meeet with you friday" or any day.

ALWAYS ask for her schedule and when she's free. Then set up a date.

Also, you went back to being a fuckboy in her mind.

Dominant "i'll buy you a drink" text = fuckboy in her mind. That's why she's being super bitchy about not drinking.

Then you started teasing her that she gets wild when she's drunk....bad move.

Teasing = lower attainability.

That's why she responded "i'm not a retard." She got offended.

This is just bad texting, bro. Fix that shit. You text like an amateur fuckboy.

You probably killed it already, so don't think I can wizard you out of this but if anything is going to work, you need to be really sincere.

I would try something like this,

"It seems we started off on the wrong foot. Look, I think you're cute and would like to get to know you better. Clearly you're a bit sassy, but I know there's more to you than that. Also, I'm not just some rich fuckboy. Let me know when you are available for a coffee or dinner and we can get to know each other for real. Ok?"

Something like that. change the wording to fit your personality, but don't change it too much.

Also, go jerk off. No fap is for fags.

Hector

P.S. @Karea Ricardus D. i'm good man good. back in america! haha. also i'm not fluent. need a translator for that my dad never taught me...but i do speak fluent womanese hope you've been well brother!

 

[matheth]

I already removed my follow to her account and am also tired of her lmao, ive already fucked up a lot via texting and Id rather start over than try to mentally exhaust myself thinking about some wise shit to say. I know i got sone stuff to improve but I did have some success with other girls with who i was able to be more open. This shitty bratty attitude put me defensive bc i really dislike it.

I kinda dont want to even text girls now because of how shitty i am, i rather just work on improving the actual approach and all of that instead of thinking about attainability and all that stuff i havent read about. I know im gonna lose a lot of lays this way but it legit stressed me tf out having to think about like 3 different seduction stages.

I dont even know wtf attainability is, precisely that 2nd text came bc i thought she unfollowed me bc of auto rejection, which happened bc i was reading too much theory and not actually field testing stuff

I think she got butthurt bc she saw me as a fuckboy and then i got defensive bc she got bitchy which resulted in me not wanting to see her anymore lol. I believe all of this can be solved if i just approach better and maybe do better with texting but i dont wanna focus too much on it

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

attainability = comfort/feels respected/feels like you actually care about her and aren't just in it for sex (even if it's a one night stand, she still needs to feel respected)

often, as value goes up, attainability goes down. but if attainability goes up too much, value goes down (friend zone).

It's possible to do both but it's hard.

If you want to get better at texting, buy my book. it's in my signature below this response. It's cheap and will teach you everything.

"I don't want to focus too much on it"

Well, then you'll lose girls lol. You get what you put in, bro. You're just horngry (horny angry). Go jerk off, play some videos games, or meditate. When you're ready to work and get bitches, get my book and get back to work.

 

[nicolascfl]

Yeah the most important is personality