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This is another one I was reminded of when responding to Wes's latest field report here.
It's very easy to get into situations where you're telling girls that you owe them something, or they owe you something (usually this comes out of role-playing). Here's one example:
(aside: you'll notice there's a lot of little stuff in there to get the sticky decisions already handled in advance, when it's easier to do so - she's PROBABLY going to sit down with you after you buy the drink, but if you haven't discussed this first, there may be an awkward "decision time" transition, or she may even go, "Well, thanks for the drink, but I really have to run!" - you avoid all this by establishing before you even walk over there that she's going to sit and talk with you for a set number of minutes, which is usually going to balloon into something more substantial - in the rare event she said, "Well, I've actually got to run - but I'll take the coffee!" that's a blatant "nothing-will-happen-with-us-but-you-can-still-buy-me-stuff" move that you always want to answer with "No deal - where's the fun in buying someone a drink if they're going to steal off into the night with it?" or, in this case, something like, "No way, I won't be held responsible for you getting cramps from drinking and running. Well, it was a pleasure meeting you anyway," then bail... but that's pretty rare; most girls will say "yes")
Here's another example:
This is just a generally fun way of transitioning into the next stage of the seduction. Once you've established "owing", you can then use this as callback humor in setting up dates or moving forward again:
Remember to make whatever you are or she is paying something TINY - inexpensive, like a little bit of food or a drink - or doesn't have a monetary price tag at all - a tour, a picnic, etc. This little gambit becomes un-fun real quick if you're promising or asking for expensive baubles... so keep it cheap or free, and relatively easy / low-stress.
Chase
It's very easy to get into situations where you're telling girls that you owe them something, or they owe you something (usually this comes out of role-playing). Here's one example:
You: I'll give you a hundred dollars if you can guess what city I'm from.
Her: Is it... St. Paul?
You: Damn... how'd you get THAT right?
Her: Well, you said you went to University of Minnesota, so it was either there or Minneapolis.
You: What if I was an out-of-state'r?
Her: Who goes to University of Minnesota from out of state?
You: Good point... well, I don't have a hundred bucks on me, but I'll buy you the drink of your choice at that coffee stand over there.
Her: Deal.
You: Okay. But you've GOT to sit and talk with me for at least 10 minutes... no drinking and running, it's bad for the metabolism.
Her: All right.
(aside: you'll notice there's a lot of little stuff in there to get the sticky decisions already handled in advance, when it's easier to do so - she's PROBABLY going to sit down with you after you buy the drink, but if you haven't discussed this first, there may be an awkward "decision time" transition, or she may even go, "Well, thanks for the drink, but I really have to run!" - you avoid all this by establishing before you even walk over there that she's going to sit and talk with you for a set number of minutes, which is usually going to balloon into something more substantial - in the rare event she said, "Well, I've actually got to run - but I'll take the coffee!" that's a blatant "nothing-will-happen-with-us-but-you-can-still-buy-me-stuff" move that you always want to answer with "No deal - where's the fun in buying someone a drink if they're going to steal off into the night with it?" or, in this case, something like, "No way, I won't be held responsible for you getting cramps from drinking and running. Well, it was a pleasure meeting you anyway," then bail... but that's pretty rare; most girls will say "yes")
Here's another example:
You: If you could do anything in the world and make as much money as you're making right now, what would it be?
Her: Hmm... will I sound crazy if I say I've always wanted to be a trapeze artist?
You: You realize that's a dangerous profession that takes forever to get good at, right?
Her: That's a good point.
You: See that? I just saved you from wasting YEARS of your life learning how to do something you stand a good chance of dying in.
Her: Yeah. Thanks.
You: You totally owe me now, don't you?
Her: I guess so!
You: So how are you going to make it up to me?
Her: Umm... how do you think I should make it up to you?
You: Well, a new car would be nice, but I'll settle for an inexpensive alcoholic beverage.
Her: [laughs] All right, you're on.
This is just a generally fun way of transitioning into the next stage of the seduction. Once you've established "owing", you can then use this as callback humor in setting up dates or moving forward again:
You: I still owe you for that [whatever] - what say I take you to XYZ place and show you a good time?
You: You know, I did you a pretty big favor, saving you from a horrific death on the circus floor in front of hundreds of spectators... I'm not sure a drink is compensation enough. What say you show me around some of your favorite parts of town sometime?
Remember to make whatever you are or she is paying something TINY - inexpensive, like a little bit of food or a drink - or doesn't have a monetary price tag at all - a tour, a picnic, etc. This little gambit becomes un-fun real quick if you're promising or asking for expensive baubles... so keep it cheap or free, and relatively easy / low-stress.
Chase
