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Ideas for how to proceed on second date

mmmcccsss

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Yesterday I had coffee with a girl I met at a house party and will probably see her again. I think she sees me is a potential boyfriend or just friend. I am wondering what you guys think and if you have any suggestions. Here is a little background.

I met her at a house party last weekend where I was older than everyone there but she thought I was one of her younger brother's friends. I was playing a drinking game with her and a couple other people when her ride home started getting ready to leave. She said she had to go because she only had that ride home in a way that seemed to me like she was fishing for an offer. I didn't say jump on it right away but when it came up again I asked where she lived and offered to give her a ride. It happened to be close to my place too.

We didn't interact a ton during the rest of our time there. We shared some laughs, but not much flirting. I tried to talk to most of the other people there and not seem like I was too into her because I actually felt like "fuck she is way too hot for me", but thought "she seems to be interested, maybe I've got it made already". When I decided I wanted to go I said "I'm about ready to head out, are you ready to go?" to her but I felt a little unsure and hesitant. I was parked around the corner and thought we would walk there but when one of the tenants of the house we were at offered to give us a ride, I wavered. I began acting like I didn't want to refuse the hospitality even though I really felt like "no I don't want a ride, we're going to walk". But I wasn't assertive. She ended up being assertive and saying we'd walk after some half-assed suggestions by me that I didn't want a ride.

On the way to the car we talked and I held her hand, and when we got in the car I pretty much immediately tried to kiss her. She said "no, I don't know what kind of girl I seem like, I tried hooking up with guys for a while but it didn't work. I want to start from friendship first". I said "ok" and drove her home. She did most of the talking on the way. At her house she said "we can talk for a bit", which we did, in the car, for an hour. She said she thought I was stuck up when we first met but then saw that I was into joking around after I laughed at a clever joke she made. I didn't make another move, but I made it clear I was interested through conversation, telling her I wanted to "see her again and see where it goes". I went to the bathroom in her house and she gave me a deep cuddling kind of hug and I left.

We got coffee yesterday and had a similar interaction. Talking about various things, laughter. She asked me what I thought of her when I first met her–"not her looks though". I said I thought she was smart and kind of tense. I had a meeting to get to so I had to leave after 45 min or so and she gave me two hugs before I left, making loose plans to go on a hike or something soon because we both have busy schedules. She texted me right after to say "great time, have a good day" and again later in the day about a test she had just taken.

My thoughts:

She's not interested in just hooking up with me.
She seems like she's interested in having me as her boyfriend, but
I may have already gotten friend-zoned.
I would like her as my girlfriend.
Either way is OK, I just discovered girlschase and if this doesn't turn into a romantic relationship, I'm interested in practicing the things talked about here.

Anything you all can point out to me about my little interaction would be really helpful!! Feedback about my interpretations?

Thanks.
 

mmmcccsss

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Ok so I want to change my question to: How can I recover from possibly being in boyfriend territory on the second date?
 

WayOfHand

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Hey man welcome to forums. Your case is very classic and I think you have already figured what could have been improved. Some points:

I tried to talk to most of the other people there and not seem like I was too into her because I actually felt like "fuck she is way too hot for me", but thought "she seems to be interested, maybe I've got it made already".
Its ok to show girls you like them. Women like bold guys. Nothing wrong with being social and having fun but definitely dont leave the girl confused about your intentions.

On the way to the car we talked and I held her hand, and when we got in the car I pretty much immediately tried to kiss her. She said "no, I don't know what kind of girl I seem like, I tried hooking up with guys for a while but it didn't work. I want to start from friendship first". I said "ok" and drove her home.
Bending into her frame like this makes her the one deciding what you will be. Most likely a friend if you are cool or boyfriend in the long run at best.

As you noted yourself you could definetely be more assertive and physical. Less talking and more leading and action. I would suggest to be friends with this one and just hang out. Makes you more comfortable with women overall. Meet other women for romantic purposes. Its very hard to recover after the frame is set this hard.
 
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