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Me: 5'10" Asian male, in business/investing
Her: 5'5" Japanese female, in investment banking

Background
Haven't posted in awhile. Been traveling, getting busy with new business stuff, and also decided to take a break from girls after some recent negative experiences where they acted way too clingy/crazy.

This post is actually from sometime last year that I'm getting around to writing now. I feel like writing and engaging with this board keeps me motivated when I'm actively working on this stuff (now). A lot of other parts of my life have been going really great recently, so I'm making girls/pickup into a priority for 2025.

The Meet
I attended a fancy social event at a mutual friend's apartment. She was a hostess of sorts. Upon entering, I was immediately attracted to her elegant and revealing dress. Instead of immediately walking into the event, I paused to chat her up while she was greeting people. She gave me smiles and good eye-contact, which I read as more than just "polite to the guest". After a bit, I bid her farewell and entered the event, telling her I'd talk to her again later.

Later during the event, I found her again and we chatted some more. I talked a bit about some impressive business deals I've been involved in recently, and she wanted to hear more. So we exchanged numbers and agreed to meet up in the future.

First Date
We met at a teahouse on a weekend early evening. She was dressed very elegantly again. I deep dived her in conversation, and she said this was the most honest she's been with anyone in her life. Towards the end, she insisted that she pay the bill, and also said she had to go now. So, it was a bit of a green light that she paid, but there was also no way to escalate further. We agreed to meet up again.

Second Date
She became a bit flaky over text at this point. But eventually I wrangled her out to a second date. I got her to agree to a cooking date, where we meet at the grocery store, and we would cook back at my apartment (ideal). I cooked a great meal, and we had a decent but not amazing energy.

Escalation
After dinner, we went to the couch, and I tried to kiss her. She resisted, and at first I thought this was typical LMR, but then her reply was "I'm not drunk enough", so it was more of a shit test. She proceeded to give me progressively more aggressive shit tests for another hour or so. And the vibe became more "wow you're such a fuck boy, why am I falling for this?". I just kept my cool and kept trying to enjoy the vibe.

Eventually we made it to my bedroom and had sex, it was not bad but also not amazing. She gave a particularly good BJ.

After Sex
She stuck around for a bit, and then called and uber and left on her own accord.

Insights
Pretty standard overall. I think the only thing that stood out to me was that this was the first time pulling a girl who was "the help", in this case, the hostess for a party.
 
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Welcome back Proper!

Love the 2 date structure for a social circle lay - a hot hostess nonetheless.

Almost any guy who attended that event would've wanted a piece of her, wouldn't they?

That's where 'proper' cold approach skills come to play, the awareness to spit the rap, maintain EC and move to the next step.

Towards the end, she insisted that she pay the bill, and also said she had to go now. So, it was a bit of a green light that she paid, but there was also no way to escalate further. We agreed to meet up again.

Is it a thing with Japanese women? The Japanese girl from the past week insisted and paid for our dinner as well.

Escalation
After dinner, we went to the couch, and I tried to kiss her. She resisted, and at first I thought this was typical LMR, but then her reply was "I'm not drunk enough", so it was more of a shit test. She proceeded to give me progressively more aggressive shit tests for another hour or so. And the vibe became more "wow you're such a fuck boy, why am I falling for this?". I just kept my cool and kept trying to enjoy the vibe.

Yeah, sounds familiar to my experience. J-girls probably require more persistence and relentless escalation than other cultures.

What do you think?
This post is actually from sometime last year that I'm getting around to writing now. I feel like writing and engaging with this board keeps me motivated when I'm actively working on this stuff (now). A lot of other parts of my life have been going really great recently, so I'm making girls/pickup into a priority for 2025.


Great to hear this, Have always loved your reports
 

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Almost any guy who attended that event would've wanted a piece of her, wouldn't they?
Now that you mention it... yes. I'm sure every single guy walking into the event wanted a piece of her.

In fact, I'm 100% sure in my own head that I thought "wow, it'd be nice to get with that hot hostess, oh well, probably not going to happen".

And only after you mention it do I realize that I in fact made it happen and deserve a bit of a pat on the back :ROFLMAO:


Yeah, sounds familiar to my experience. J-girls probably require more persistence and relentless escalation than other cultures.

What do you think?
Not sure if it's a pattern with J girls. Honestly, LMR with every single girl I've ever been with has been random. I'm never able to predict it.

For example with some girls, who are virgins with a conservative upbringing from a conservative asian culture, there's zero LMR whatsoever.

And then I meet some other girls who are party girls raised in the USA, who I'm sure have a fairly large body count, and they might give me MASSIVE LMR, because "I don't do hookups anymore", or some similar excuse.

^^ now that I mention those two examples, the one pattern I've noticed is that international girls are always more chill than I expected, and American girls are always less chill than I expected :unsure:
 
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