Is this all worth it?

[Marley]

So just to preface I’m a newbie who discovered girlschase within the last year. I’ve been thinking of starting the newbie assignment for the last 12 months or so but been having many reservations. Moreover there is a part of me that questions whether it’s event worth it to learn seduction just to get a hotter girlfriend. Just knowing that despite all the stuff there is to learn and hoops to jump through it still doesn’t necessarily gaurantee that your relationship will be successful there’s a part of me that considers whether any of this is really worth it. I’ve been weighing my options about what I want to prioritize in life. I have a lot of things I want to accomplish and part of me feels like the stress of relationship management(especially with hotter women) as girlschase outlines might not be worth it considering the time investment. Am I just better off meeting a more plain/mediocre girl through social circle that won’t give me so much trouble, allowing me to focus on other aspects of life?

 

[Bill]

There are many benefits to learning game outside of success with women, many former PUAs went on to be successful in other fields and publicly or privately credit their experiences through game as being their biggest edge.

 

[Bismarck]

What are you looking for with this thread, for us to convince you that improving your self presentation is worth it?

Check out the Field Reports section.

If those sorts of dalliances ignite a spark in you, then go for it. And yes, becoming a better version of yourself takes discipline, consistency, effort, and time. (Oh, and rejections. Plenty of them). It's much easier to switch on Khazan on your PS5 and slay dragons.

If the sex reports don't titillate you, and you'd rather settle for a girl that doesn't really turn you on, while choking the bishop to those who do on the interwebs, we ain't gonna stop ya.

 

[Chase]

@Ozuna,

The decision what to prioritize and where to invest his time is a decision every man must make for himself.

Personally, for things where I am very much torn, I find it helpful to listen to old men near the end of their lives about what they’re proudest of, their fondest memories, and also what they most regret.

I have heard a lot of men say, “I’m glad for the wild years of my youth,” or, “I wish I’d lived wilder when young.” I’ve heard many fewer men wish they had not been so wild (that said: Ben Franklin was one of them. He was a horndog who chased women his whole life though. His thing was basically just, “Sigh, I wish I wasn’t so into women; I could’ve gotten more done!”).

As for managing relationships:

Unless you are going the Nikola Tesla / Isaac Newton route, and plan to live a celibate life, you are going to end up in a romantic relationship sooner or later.

Nothing forces you to choose a hot, high maintenance girl for that. I have known playboys who banged tons of gorgeous girls then chose horrifically ugly and mediocre ones as their long-term mates. It’s definitely doable

(likewise, it is also possible to find good-looking girls who are not really high maintenance. They just won’t be the über hotties, is all)

As you consider these things, also consider the counter to “I don’t want a stressful relationship so I won’t learn game”:

Almost all the 100s of thousands of poor schmucks you see bawling their eyes out in red and black pill channels on social media were the men who did not learn game, fell into the trap of some chick’s wiles, got betaized, then ended up having their hearts totally devoured and their lives upended thanks to “no time to learn game.”

All game is part woman magnet + part woman’s owner’s manual.

IMO it pays to learn at least a little…

Chase

 

[DarkKnight]

So just to preface I’m a newbie who discovered girlschase within the last year. I’ve been thinking of starting the newbie assignment for the last 12 months or so but been having many reservations. Moreover there is a part of me that questions whether it’s event worth it to learn seduction just to get a hotter girlfriend. Just knowing that despite all the stuff there is to learn and hoops to jump through it still doesn’t necessarily gaurantee that your relationship will be successful there’s a part of me that considers whether any of this is really worth it. I’ve been weighing my options about what I want to prioritize in life. I have a lot of things I want to accomplish and part of me feels like the stress of relationship management(especially with hotter women) as girlschase outlines might not be worth it considering the time investment. Am I just better off meeting a more plain/mediocre girl through social circle that won’t give me so much trouble, allowing me to focus on other aspects of life?

Or perhaps, it is better to be a bit more ambitious and rise up to the challenge? Game is FREEDOM, everyone keeps underestimating this. I just met one of the hottest women who really made me go crazy, she is not even aware of how hot she is lol. (I am fucking excited about this one btw.., which is rare for me) and I notice while I talk with her magic game incantations just spring into my mind and I know average guy cannot wow her like I did. Game remains a pain of the ass a lot of times Im not gonna lie, but when it works it is like you are hypnotizing people.. and I believe my life would be much more mediocre if I could not do these things.

So yeah dude 200 percent worth it.. or you need to be content with being another cog in the wheel... I do believe you need to be a bit eccentric to really value this stuff.

that being said I do not believe in shaming people for not wanting to learn this. It is a lot of work.. game is hard. But the fun part is, that is why it is this effective most guys wont ever bother with this except as a magic bullet

 

[Glow]

You have some projections about things of which you have no clue. eg the high maintenance assumptions with 9 & 10s etc.

If you get better at seduction - a central core for your own pleasure and happiness, your understanding of what attracts YOU might change assuming you pay attention to it. As such part of the voyage it to realise nuances of what attracts you in a woman. And that unveils lifelong. It will change your perspective of what 10 is to you. Maybe even disregard the common idea of 9 and 10s.

Dependent on what you want you can then take your development in that direction. learning the pickup part, or the seduction part or the relating part.

So my point is - stay humble to what you dont know, & carve your own path. It will be tenfold stronger than following the scripts of game. But the scripts is a starting point for gaining a bit of control. and some of the tools can be powerful across many areas of life.

Most guys around me that has not learned these things we focus on, miss a toolkit for how to handle their relationships and their own improvrments when needed later on. They miss a way to engage with it. People in here never will.

Your resistance might hold some wisdom that can help guide your journey for how you choose to handle this part of your life. Shows you your way and preferences. add tools to that and your path will be strong.

 

[TwoNameGame]

Am I just better off meeting a more plain/mediocre girl through social circle that won’t give me so much trouble, allowing me to focus on other aspects of life?

You remind me of myself. You seem like a young man looking for a long term relationship. Instead of preaching, I'll tell you my story and you decide.

These were 3 days out of a week.

Background
At the beginning of the year, I had the same qualifications except I didn't know about Girls Chase, so few knew what I was like.

Day 1
I have a training seminar at work. My work is client-focused one based on training in technical skills. I tell people about establishing rapport and getting people not only comfortable but energetic. How? I recite part of a Girls Chase Article while ommititing the seduction part. HR tells me I am insightful and incorporates what I advise. I put communication in a communicable, trainable way for newbies.

Day 2
I get out of class. I don't want to be stuck in this job. Turns out there is a networking event I didn't know about. I am the only one in street clothes. Everyone wears suits. I walk with presence and talk to other students. I form groups to "cut" in line and establish social proof. I introduce myself and the others with a firm handshake and good fundamentals while asking some deep diving questions to understand what the promoter looks for. The recruiters mostly speak to me and remember my name even though I look unprofessional.

Day 3
I get out of class and I see girl who seems like my type. It's not about hotness; what captivates my attention is femininity. Seeing a woman dressed girly and walking with purpose intrigues me, so I approach. I may never see her again, but I am curious about why she carries herself this way when no one else does. Unfortunately, I was never meant to meet her. We don't share a single class or walk in the same direction and her mind is preoccupied with midterms. Fortunately, I know what to do. Within 2-3 minutes, I have her number. Within 23 hours, I have a date. She and I have so much in common, but she is still draws me in. She is pensive when she isn't shy, and she is unafraid to speak her mind when she feels invested. She gets me better than the women in my social circle. But if she leaves me, I can do it again because every woman has her beauty, which I know from experience.

I haven't changed; I just know how to get people interested in what I have time say. And I know how to form connections. And I'm barely a rank above you.

 

[Hue]

Am I just better off meeting a more plain/mediocre girl through social circle that won’t give me so much trouble, allowing me to focus on other aspects of life?

Sounds boring and like settling to me, but I'm not you.

The journey that learning seduction took me on has been extremely rewarding and taught me far more about life than I had ever anticipated.

It kinda goes back to that "life is hard, choose your hard" saying.

Cold approaching, adapting your game, and mastering relationships are hard.

Not having the freedom to meet new and amazing women whenever you want to, and being stuck with a girl that you aren't all that into is hard.

Choose your hard