Videos Is this good game? (scene from I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell)

[Marty]

Is the scene where Tucker seduces a married woman in the bathroom from I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell (at 1:20:15 in the full movie) a depiction of good game?

If so, what are the elements shown that I can learn from?

Many thanks in advance,
Marty

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

Good game is repeatable, imo.

The guy is young and in decent shape.
The woman is old and in a young person bar.
A lot is implied in this setting already.

His approach and first words are congruent with him and the scene. But his level of filth has to be fully committed to. In the book, and in those interviews, he was totally in the zone.

Her decision to play along with the banter is just part of flirting. The dialogue is cringe, but a lot of pickups are cringe. The actress plays along though.

Was it good game to follow her into a bathroom and hope something happened ?

Attraction, trust, arousal= sexy time.

So much could have gone wrong here. But It's also the sort of experience that some guys but a lot of girls want to have.

It's not a gamble I would take but that might have been the only escalation window with the girl.

I don't see any of this as good solid repeatable game, because it looks so one off.

Pulling a cougar into bar bathroom after 30 sec seconds of chatting is possible, but not likely every time you see this happen.

That said you will see older women in places they shouldn't be. You will be able to flirt. You can find places within a venue for a quick hookup. But imo pulling this off is less about solid technique and more about inner game/delusional self-confidence.

Here's another one, that looks possible but not probable

 

[Will_V]

Is the scene where Tucker seduces a married woman in the bathroom from I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell (at 1:20:15 in the full movie) a depiction of good game?

If so, what are the elements shown that I can learn from?

Many thanks in advance,
Marty

Looks like the sort of game that either works or it doesn't, depending on whether she's ready to roll.

Something to be aware of - a lot of movies get nonverbals, timing, and presentation wrong with stuff like this, because there's a script and anybody can stand there and read it any way they like, even in ways that are cringe or would blow things completely, because it doesn't change what the rest of the script says. We all know all those movies where the beta is cringy/needy/tryhard but the script swindles the relationship forward anyway.

One of the worst depictions of pickup imo is this scene from Crazy Stupid Love:

I mean, it's so phony and overcooked it's hard to watch. You can almost see everyone involved clutching their scripts. And that's even when some of the writing of the scene is technically ok.

In the case of what you posted, it's not too bad for a young guy going after a cougar, he does a pretty good job of rejecting her frames and imposing his sexual frame, but he's not the most believable guy in the world in terms of his presentation and delivery.

 

[Spyce D]

Something to be aware of - a lot of movies get nonverbals, timing, and presentation wrong with stuff like this, because there's a script and anybody can stand there and read it any way they like, even in ways that are cringe or would blow things completely, because it doesn't change what the rest of the script says. We all know all those movies where the beta is cringy/needy/tryhard but the script swindles the relationship forward anyway.

True .

We must never forget that movies are for entertainment nor for education .

 

[Marty]

Something to be aware of - a lot of movies get nonverbals, timing, and presentation wrong with stuff like this, because there's a script and anybody can stand there and read it any way they like, even in ways that are cringe or would blow things completely, because it doesn't change what the rest of the script says. We all know all those movies where the beta is cringy/needy/tryhard but the script swindles the relationship forward anyway.

That’s true, of course. I guess I was happy to find a fictional example, just because it’s almost impossible to witness a successful interaction of this sort in real life—since humans tend to be private in their romantic and sexual lives, I suppose.

So many of the possibilities discussed in the forum and on the main site seem exciting, and I’m happy to take people’s word for it that these can be replicated, but it helps in internalizing the process when you see it happening for real, especially if you haven’t (yet) experienced it during infield exchanges.