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This is my first post, so here are couple of things you should know about me:
21 years old, never had a gf
virgin
kissed one girl in my life (and it was meaningless)
approached hundreds of girls over the last 2 years ( but wasnt attracted to 60 % of them) ( didnt actually tried to close with 80% of them)
Im from Europe so be patient with my grammar
Now, I know what you are thinking, but I am not creepy, ugly, dumb, asexual etc... I am perfectionist, I overthink a lot and seek meaning in everything. I had a lot of girls interested in me, even offering me sex, but I passed because they were not the ones I really wanted, and I definitely have unrealistic and high standards. That is enough for now. Lets move on to tonight report.
Went out with one dude and later he called some other dude to come with us (which I told him not to do, but more on that later). we had agreed to meet at the specific place and he was late. Couple more predicaments and inconveniences happened which led to my bad mood. We arrived at my favorite bar, but there was 100 people outside which meant that the party is over (we came late anyways). I asked two girls what happened and then got into a conversation with them (mind you, I am on the passenger seat practically yelling for them to hear me). Asked them where are they going, they didnt know. Then i heard one girl asking the other: Do you want to go with them (talking about us) and the other seemed like she didnt mind. That led me to asking them to come with us, but I would have never done that if I havent heard their idea to go with us. They agreed, and I wasnt ready so spit my game to be honest. I wasnt confident and socially warmed up enough. First five minutes was good, but later tha vibe was off. They were definitely down to party, but it didnt occur to me until later, that we could have brought them home, or maybe just stay in the car.
After a lot disagreements and wasting time, we finnaly got in some club. I didnt give a fuck where Im going, I just wanted talk to girls. We got in and its kind of a high end club, girls with plastic surgeries, dudes with money etc. It was not a lot of them but you get the picture. I saw couple of nice sets but like always I like to warm up first (talikng with firends, staff, fat girls...). I tell them lets start, we have wasted enough time (it was 1:45 AM already) but I got no response. I said fuck them and approached a fattie. I talked to her because her friend was cute and looking at me, but she was weird and totally ignored me (shes foreigner and doesnt know the language). By then other girls were looking at me and stared getting closer to me. I was fucking around for 15 min and went back to my friends for the next set. Again they did nothing and decided to go the dirtiest and most pathethic club in town, which I hate enormously. ( and I specificallyntold my friend days before, and again today that im not gonna fucking go there, but he is a fucking dumbass). When I told them that Im going to stay here, they were amezed like I havent actuallly told them this 30 fuckiing times that that place is a no go for me. They left, and I was thinkig to myself: why did I even went out with them...
Energized by the frustration from the fact that Im alone and its late, I continued to approach. Opened a 3 set, and it was on. The girl I oppened was givnig me attention and quickly I have won over her frineds. Honestly I wasnt celar on which girls I am gonna go for, but I spent the most time with the first girl (we are gonna call her 1). It was a long fucking iteraction, and I cant write all the details, but she was grabing my shoulders when trying to talk to me, not resisting my touch, giving me great eye contact, and laughing at my jokes (maybe 50% of them). We were playfighting a litle bit, couple of times our faces were very colse to each other, and I knew it was time to go further. I was teasing her that she is a red flag, that shes trouble, and that shes probably hard to deal with in a relationship. Her best friend really liked me and was very receptive of my jokes and presence. I dont know what else to write other than the thing I know was and is a problem for me.
I DONT KNOW HOW TO ESCALATE. Im so uncomfortable touching girs waists let alone asses or tits. I touched her only a cople of times and when I put my hand around girls waist it feels so unnatural. I tried to isolate her, but I then the window have closed already. It went something like this:
me: you know , those couches reght there are so comfortable, lest go there and have a drink.
she: i dont want to drink
me: ok I do , you can watch me drink
she: you can do it here
me: you could DO IT here, in front of all of this people??' ( sexual framing)
she: turns her head and the convo dies ( Im not sure if she heard me or she was tired of me talking shit and not actually trying something this whole time)
After that I kind of tought that this girl is opportunity wasted and asked her friend for ig (because i wanted to make her jelaous, and her firned was actually cool so why not be friends with her). Obviously, target saw that and this time she got pissed. ( I was intentionally talking with her firends just make her work for me and make her chase me a little bit). After that they left and i felt... defeated. This scenario happens a lot to me but and I could never get past the touchnig on the waist. I cant build sexual tension, escalate, isolate, kiss and lay girls. These are my sticking points and I have been working a lot on my game for the past 2 years but I cant close. I can do everythig but get some tangible results. It feels like going to the gym, eating celan, being consistent, searchng, for workout plans, but not getting any result in 2 YEARS!
I would be happy to hear some constructive criticism and advice, and also to share more details about this night or my game in general. Thanks!
21 years old, never had a gf
virgin
kissed one girl in my life (and it was meaningless)
approached hundreds of girls over the last 2 years ( but wasnt attracted to 60 % of them) ( didnt actually tried to close with 80% of them)
Im from Europe so be patient with my grammar
Now, I know what you are thinking, but I am not creepy, ugly, dumb, asexual etc... I am perfectionist, I overthink a lot and seek meaning in everything. I had a lot of girls interested in me, even offering me sex, but I passed because they were not the ones I really wanted, and I definitely have unrealistic and high standards. That is enough for now. Lets move on to tonight report.
Went out with one dude and later he called some other dude to come with us (which I told him not to do, but more on that later). we had agreed to meet at the specific place and he was late. Couple more predicaments and inconveniences happened which led to my bad mood. We arrived at my favorite bar, but there was 100 people outside which meant that the party is over (we came late anyways). I asked two girls what happened and then got into a conversation with them (mind you, I am on the passenger seat practically yelling for them to hear me). Asked them where are they going, they didnt know. Then i heard one girl asking the other: Do you want to go with them (talking about us) and the other seemed like she didnt mind. That led me to asking them to come with us, but I would have never done that if I havent heard their idea to go with us. They agreed, and I wasnt ready so spit my game to be honest. I wasnt confident and socially warmed up enough. First five minutes was good, but later tha vibe was off. They were definitely down to party, but it didnt occur to me until later, that we could have brought them home, or maybe just stay in the car.
After a lot disagreements and wasting time, we finnaly got in some club. I didnt give a fuck where Im going, I just wanted talk to girls. We got in and its kind of a high end club, girls with plastic surgeries, dudes with money etc. It was not a lot of them but you get the picture. I saw couple of nice sets but like always I like to warm up first (talikng with firends, staff, fat girls...). I tell them lets start, we have wasted enough time (it was 1:45 AM already) but I got no response. I said fuck them and approached a fattie. I talked to her because her friend was cute and looking at me, but she was weird and totally ignored me (shes foreigner and doesnt know the language). By then other girls were looking at me and stared getting closer to me. I was fucking around for 15 min and went back to my friends for the next set. Again they did nothing and decided to go the dirtiest and most pathethic club in town, which I hate enormously. ( and I specificallyntold my friend days before, and again today that im not gonna fucking go there, but he is a fucking dumbass). When I told them that Im going to stay here, they were amezed like I havent actuallly told them this 30 fuckiing times that that place is a no go for me. They left, and I was thinkig to myself: why did I even went out with them...
Energized by the frustration from the fact that Im alone and its late, I continued to approach. Opened a 3 set, and it was on. The girl I oppened was givnig me attention and quickly I have won over her frineds. Honestly I wasnt celar on which girls I am gonna go for, but I spent the most time with the first girl (we are gonna call her 1). It was a long fucking iteraction, and I cant write all the details, but she was grabing my shoulders when trying to talk to me, not resisting my touch, giving me great eye contact, and laughing at my jokes (maybe 50% of them). We were playfighting a litle bit, couple of times our faces were very colse to each other, and I knew it was time to go further. I was teasing her that she is a red flag, that shes trouble, and that shes probably hard to deal with in a relationship. Her best friend really liked me and was very receptive of my jokes and presence. I dont know what else to write other than the thing I know was and is a problem for me.
I DONT KNOW HOW TO ESCALATE. Im so uncomfortable touching girs waists let alone asses or tits. I touched her only a cople of times and when I put my hand around girls waist it feels so unnatural. I tried to isolate her, but I then the window have closed already. It went something like this:
me: you know , those couches reght there are so comfortable, lest go there and have a drink.
she: i dont want to drink
me: ok I do , you can watch me drink
she: you can do it here
me: you could DO IT here, in front of all of this people??' ( sexual framing)
she: turns her head and the convo dies ( Im not sure if she heard me or she was tired of me talking shit and not actually trying something this whole time)
After that I kind of tought that this girl is opportunity wasted and asked her friend for ig (because i wanted to make her jelaous, and her firned was actually cool so why not be friends with her). Obviously, target saw that and this time she got pissed. ( I was intentionally talking with her firends just make her work for me and make her chase me a little bit). After that they left and i felt... defeated. This scenario happens a lot to me but and I could never get past the touchnig on the waist. I cant build sexual tension, escalate, isolate, kiss and lay girls. These are my sticking points and I have been working a lot on my game for the past 2 years but I cant close. I can do everythig but get some tangible results. It feels like going to the gym, eating celan, being consistent, searchng, for workout plans, but not getting any result in 2 YEARS!
I would be happy to hear some constructive criticism and advice, and also to share more details about this night or my game in general. Thanks!
