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Hi all, this is OriyKrewge, hope you're all doing well!
Let me start of by thanking you guys, Chase especially, for having this amazing inner game site and respect for women mantra next to the moves, I would have loved for this to exist back when I first started out. Which brings me to my introduction and why I'm here, and then go to my newbie assignment (Quick recap of days 1-5) and lastly my observations so far. I'm 25, taking forever over college. I used to be hard working, busy with self-improvement and happy to workout, but somewhere along the road, I got stuck in every domain the last few years, hoping to finally progress now back in every domain.
My prior experience with game, is almost from 10 years ago, when I was 15-16. I had my stuff together, and noticed girls noticing me (I'm not tall, nor bulky, a minority), I'm a bit of a religious guy, so didn't advance. One girl litteraly asked me to sleep with her (classmate), but of course, what did I do, I "liked" her "too late", and while maybe I could have just asked her back then, I decided to Google how to seduce girls. I ended up on Fast Seduction pretty fast, which I followed for a whole year, doing the dressing up part, kino, trying my luck at patterns. I never got my crush, but I think she did feel something for me regardless (girls and boys were like get a room and just fuck already, I ignored her because she didn't want to meet up, she gave me the look of disgust for it, yet she kept flirting till end of high school and recently tried to get subtly in contact with me, she stayed a virgin throughout high school and settled for someone else eventually, yet kept flirting). I wish I had settled, I wish I had continued, but perhaps this all might save my life, who knows, my eagerness to relearn gets frustrated just as easily by how hard this can be, will need three years of solid inner and outer game improvement. Now the ties that bind are gone, I see attraction from girls ranging from young to 33 again, which is weird, I'm nine years older, so I feel a bit old now for the young girls, and a bit young for the older girls. Wild that this happened back in the old days too, I was a kid back then.
I got into relationships, that didn't last long, but I flirted with women my age to above twice my age. I quit using game after going overboard (firing off multiple flirt wars in class, class was 3/4 girls), I was still getting enough attention from girls for a while after, but I entered social atrophy and now I'm suddenly "into girls" again. Last year, I went out again, joined a friends social circle, though I don't really fit the ethnic criteria for it, and I behaved. I got girls interest while trying to rebuild my life, but I didn't realize it or I didn't dare, and so passed a whole year, but eventually I went for one. I texted way too much, got "friendzoned", somehow however I got a second chance, she practically jumped in for the kiss, yet I didn't go for it, kept messaging, falling into that oneitis trap again, and after 8 years I find myself typing how to seduce girls once again on Google. Lo and behold, GIRLSCHASE!
I met up with some guys who are good with girls recently, and I explained this, and they told me I might have some natural game, but I have to be prepared that if I'm going to learn game again, I might see a significant drop in results first. Funny thing, I start seeing problems again I didn't see for the better part of the decade, like girls telling me they have a boyfriend, girls stealing their friend and running off to the bathroom, and people seeing me as a tryhard. It's like they will always be girls, they'll never learn (we should learn though, we're the leaders, it's our problem to fix everything, and fuck our ego's (I have a massive ego lol)).
Oh God, if only I had toughed it out back then, I shouldn't have faced these problems anymore today... I'm really hoping to turn my one regret this year around (failing the rest, oh well I guess I didn't fail enough to succeed ;-)), this girl who got her heart broken, then opened up to me, friendzoned me hard, because I friendzoned her like once or twice because I didn't know the fuck what I was doing, then I made a move on her which she didn't saw coming but I didn't pull it through, then I flirted the crap out of girls in front of her (like I used to nine years ago, weird trigger), dissapointing her, then having her bump into me and really hoping I would talk to her next time I saw her (my interpretations) but me keeping ignoring it, getting her dissapointed again, and then showing up on the next event, only to tell me subtly she has date, me ejecting ASAP from her, her giving me again that look of utter disgust (I'm assuming this is auto-rejection based on what I've read here, and I've seen this look many many times, only to know realize it), I might might might just apologize for wasting her time and giving such mixed signals if I might see her again.
The newbie assignment NOTE I've been a bit inconsistent, going through exams and feeling a bit depressed through everything, but we'll see...
Day 1
I've always wanted to be the guy you meet at school, the coffeeshop, between the books in the library, or like anyware I have to go when out and about. Wouldn't it be convient to do everything without losing sleep over it? Will want to do night game for fun, but love to play white knight (tough I should work on the negative aspects of this side of me)
Day 2
Worked on posture, gives a different impression, that I have of people, that people have of me. Not being that particularly tall, this is really helpfull. I also began my old habit of wearing shoes that make a bit taller, with feet stuffing inside too. Not ideal, not perfect, but it works, it helps.
Day 3
Eye-contact, something that I really need to train, but I'm lost on the information. The way Fastseduction taught it (and the way I kept using it) was picking one eye and focus on it. The advice here on Girlschase seems to alternate from bridge nose to one eye, could use some clarification on that. Making eye contact with female non-hired goons is still a bit scary. Guys sometimes start greeting me automatically like they know tough, which a strange observation.
Day 4
Hi to six (imo) attractive women. Not a biggie, tough kept myself confined to classmates eventually.
Day 5
Hi, how are ya (or something like that, haven't come up with a decent translation yet in Flemish, tough I think it might suffice already). Kept myself confined to classmates eventually again. Felt really insecure in the morning, stumbled at my words ("what if the convo keeps going"), girls getting a creepy vibe, laughing at me. I caught my break by talking to a hired goon, making a light and funny conversation, nothing special, just to keep my back up again. It worked, tried again, made new acquaintances in classmates, flirted a bit, passed, but relied a bit on quick jumping on the battlefield and classmates, which will damage reputation if done poorly, and I really should watch out. Maybe. Anyway, felt really insecure in the morning, felt thrilled in the evening.
Break for now
I had a meet with some guys who are into game (I really hope to find Girlschase people in Belgium, tough the RSD guys are more connected). Went out for a day game session, and I just did the four "Are you single?" ones, for lack of an alternative. Had one girl be like "yeah right", one girl "no no no". One girl I asked to get married, laughed and rushed off. However the first girl they made me approach was a beautiful 18 year old psychology student, nice sense of fashion, taller than me. So grateful for the RSD guys, the regretted sending her to me.
Me: "Hey...can I ask you something?"
Her:"Yeah"
Me:"Okay, don't take this the wrong way, right..."
Her:"Uhuh"
Me:"Are you single?"
Her:"Wuh Yeah, what?"
Me:"Yeah I just saw you walking here with your beautiful sense of style, I thought I should say hello"
Her:"Oh wow that's so sweet, gosh"
I forced myself a bit further into the conversation by asking her what she studies and stuff, she noticed the RSD guys, so I said i'm going to go back to them, but let me grab your number (first time asking for a number), she gave me the excuse that she isn't into guys, which I didn't believe (she stared at my lips, might have been crossing her tall legs not sure), but I was like okay let's both get out of here, I already stumbled it this far. I was happy to see it, I felt like I could have Insta-dated her, but felt some obligation to stick to the group, so went for a number half-assedly I guess. The RSD guys where like wow direct approach huh, what did she say, felt like she could have been insta-dated too, where pissed to send a newbie to do this stuff. I would NOT be incredulous if someone with skills would take her home within an hour, even tough she's an 18 year old angel.
Observations/questions/remarks so far
-It somehow feels like a new world is opening (or reopening, can't wrap my head around this cognitive dissonance and "coming back" feeling, making observations and having thoughts I haven't had in years, not just dating, but social skills, psychology, NLP stuff, wish I really had worked it for the last 8 years, might have become skilled as well)
-I need to hide my intent so I won't come over to try-hard, not sure how, any help???
-Girls are lonely. I started having this realization in social circle completly on my own over the course of last year, I was not coming outside so yeah nothing happens, but why are these girls who get outside nearly begging me to rescue them, how could they be this desperate, it's like they don't want to go out anymore and hook up, and grudgingly sleep with players they don't like, but nice guys don't put out or rescue them from a life of night game misery (God why didn't I realize this back then, all the "Are you single?", "When are you starting to work", girls subtly letting me know they're dropping everything just to meet me). When doing the newbie assignment it looked like at a certain point one out of three girls starts looking at my lips (must be something about my gaze as well, don't control this yet, but definitely had this even before game, I used to be told I had a killer look (Edgy?-Sometimes a girl would freeze up when locking eye contact, haven't had that in years as well), I also begin noticing me doing the tilting of the head when I feel I'm being dominant over her, I did this automatically, start noticing this now. This looks to confirm my observation, and some of the RSD guys get laid off girls who just can't seem to find someone (decent), somehow fucked up. Well actually I let so many girls pass last year, so uh yeah
-Girls feel rejected so fast, it's insane to have this realization as well, the girls I'd cold approach seem intensely in to me, but seem also to grow cold and dissapointed fast as well (the old term bitch shield still seems to pop up, really have to unlearn that and negging, forget about that last years tough)
-I want to open two-sets on a day game basis, don't know how yet (getting past the other girl(s)), would really appreciate some help here!!!
-Have to train that eye contact, and posture, and voice, sense of style, and so on
-Night game we shall see
-Girlschase folks from Belgium or the Netherlands, say hi!
-Girls, even from lower quality, sometimes make "the moves" as well it seems, women choose, but sometimes it looks like they are really using kino and other pick stuff too to keep you orbiting around her, somehow this seems... unfair... actually always felt this way, and sometimes it's like they are asking for compliance too ("to friendzone you, perhaps to boyfriendzone you?")
-Shit test, ball breaking, but somehow you can sometimes feel them coming up mere moments before they do, and hey, I start enjoying myself failling (or passing them), though the drawn-out ones I still get busted in, sometimes, with girls I'm not interested in (because too young probably), it feels like I'm passing them better, and don't even notice them. Same goes for compliance, the girls I don't want/can't want, I treat them more as "little" girls automatically
-Chase frames, looks like an interesting thing, let them do all the work, don't chase, replace
-Sexual talk, first date sex, seems like a far away thing, though never done the whole months chasing and getting her too
-RSD guys told me I have a whole boyfriend vibe, someone to settle with, not to sleep with on the first day (I was dressed up better than usual tough), not sure if this has to be a bad thing, and of course nobody is a saint
-What about asking "Are you single?" a bit indirectly, like talking about shopping, then saying "is that where you go with your boyfriend?", had some desired results...
-What if during dates, I grab her hand quickly, what if I just go for the goddamn kiss already, instead fumbling and probably wasting hours of her and my time
-Girls so easily take off their headphones
-So much more work to do...
Might have forgotten stuff, but it's a really long post, really hope to hear some feedback
Let me start of by thanking you guys, Chase especially, for having this amazing inner game site and respect for women mantra next to the moves, I would have loved for this to exist back when I first started out. Which brings me to my introduction and why I'm here, and then go to my newbie assignment (Quick recap of days 1-5) and lastly my observations so far. I'm 25, taking forever over college. I used to be hard working, busy with self-improvement and happy to workout, but somewhere along the road, I got stuck in every domain the last few years, hoping to finally progress now back in every domain.
My prior experience with game, is almost from 10 years ago, when I was 15-16. I had my stuff together, and noticed girls noticing me (I'm not tall, nor bulky, a minority), I'm a bit of a religious guy, so didn't advance. One girl litteraly asked me to sleep with her (classmate), but of course, what did I do, I "liked" her "too late", and while maybe I could have just asked her back then, I decided to Google how to seduce girls. I ended up on Fast Seduction pretty fast, which I followed for a whole year, doing the dressing up part, kino, trying my luck at patterns. I never got my crush, but I think she did feel something for me regardless (girls and boys were like get a room and just fuck already, I ignored her because she didn't want to meet up, she gave me the look of disgust for it, yet she kept flirting till end of high school and recently tried to get subtly in contact with me, she stayed a virgin throughout high school and settled for someone else eventually, yet kept flirting). I wish I had settled, I wish I had continued, but perhaps this all might save my life, who knows, my eagerness to relearn gets frustrated just as easily by how hard this can be, will need three years of solid inner and outer game improvement. Now the ties that bind are gone, I see attraction from girls ranging from young to 33 again, which is weird, I'm nine years older, so I feel a bit old now for the young girls, and a bit young for the older girls. Wild that this happened back in the old days too, I was a kid back then.
I got into relationships, that didn't last long, but I flirted with women my age to above twice my age. I quit using game after going overboard (firing off multiple flirt wars in class, class was 3/4 girls), I was still getting enough attention from girls for a while after, but I entered social atrophy and now I'm suddenly "into girls" again. Last year, I went out again, joined a friends social circle, though I don't really fit the ethnic criteria for it, and I behaved. I got girls interest while trying to rebuild my life, but I didn't realize it or I didn't dare, and so passed a whole year, but eventually I went for one. I texted way too much, got "friendzoned", somehow however I got a second chance, she practically jumped in for the kiss, yet I didn't go for it, kept messaging, falling into that oneitis trap again, and after 8 years I find myself typing how to seduce girls once again on Google. Lo and behold, GIRLSCHASE!
I met up with some guys who are good with girls recently, and I explained this, and they told me I might have some natural game, but I have to be prepared that if I'm going to learn game again, I might see a significant drop in results first. Funny thing, I start seeing problems again I didn't see for the better part of the decade, like girls telling me they have a boyfriend, girls stealing their friend and running off to the bathroom, and people seeing me as a tryhard. It's like they will always be girls, they'll never learn (we should learn though, we're the leaders, it's our problem to fix everything, and fuck our ego's (I have a massive ego lol)).
Oh God, if only I had toughed it out back then, I shouldn't have faced these problems anymore today... I'm really hoping to turn my one regret this year around (failing the rest, oh well I guess I didn't fail enough to succeed ;-)), this girl who got her heart broken, then opened up to me, friendzoned me hard, because I friendzoned her like once or twice because I didn't know the fuck what I was doing, then I made a move on her which she didn't saw coming but I didn't pull it through, then I flirted the crap out of girls in front of her (like I used to nine years ago, weird trigger), dissapointing her, then having her bump into me and really hoping I would talk to her next time I saw her (my interpretations) but me keeping ignoring it, getting her dissapointed again, and then showing up on the next event, only to tell me subtly she has date, me ejecting ASAP from her, her giving me again that look of utter disgust (I'm assuming this is auto-rejection based on what I've read here, and I've seen this look many many times, only to know realize it), I might might might just apologize for wasting her time and giving such mixed signals if I might see her again.
The newbie assignment NOTE I've been a bit inconsistent, going through exams and feeling a bit depressed through everything, but we'll see...
Day 1
I've always wanted to be the guy you meet at school, the coffeeshop, between the books in the library, or like anyware I have to go when out and about. Wouldn't it be convient to do everything without losing sleep over it? Will want to do night game for fun, but love to play white knight (tough I should work on the negative aspects of this side of me)
Day 2
Worked on posture, gives a different impression, that I have of people, that people have of me. Not being that particularly tall, this is really helpfull. I also began my old habit of wearing shoes that make a bit taller, with feet stuffing inside too. Not ideal, not perfect, but it works, it helps.
Day 3
Eye-contact, something that I really need to train, but I'm lost on the information. The way Fastseduction taught it (and the way I kept using it) was picking one eye and focus on it. The advice here on Girlschase seems to alternate from bridge nose to one eye, could use some clarification on that. Making eye contact with female non-hired goons is still a bit scary. Guys sometimes start greeting me automatically like they know tough, which a strange observation.
Day 4
Hi to six (imo) attractive women. Not a biggie, tough kept myself confined to classmates eventually.
Day 5
Hi, how are ya (or something like that, haven't come up with a decent translation yet in Flemish, tough I think it might suffice already). Kept myself confined to classmates eventually again. Felt really insecure in the morning, stumbled at my words ("what if the convo keeps going"), girls getting a creepy vibe, laughing at me. I caught my break by talking to a hired goon, making a light and funny conversation, nothing special, just to keep my back up again. It worked, tried again, made new acquaintances in classmates, flirted a bit, passed, but relied a bit on quick jumping on the battlefield and classmates, which will damage reputation if done poorly, and I really should watch out. Maybe. Anyway, felt really insecure in the morning, felt thrilled in the evening.
Break for now
I had a meet with some guys who are into game (I really hope to find Girlschase people in Belgium, tough the RSD guys are more connected). Went out for a day game session, and I just did the four "Are you single?" ones, for lack of an alternative. Had one girl be like "yeah right", one girl "no no no". One girl I asked to get married, laughed and rushed off. However the first girl they made me approach was a beautiful 18 year old psychology student, nice sense of fashion, taller than me. So grateful for the RSD guys, the regretted sending her to me.
Me: "Hey...can I ask you something?"
Her:"Yeah"
Me:"Okay, don't take this the wrong way, right..."
Her:"Uhuh"
Me:"Are you single?"
Her:"Wuh Yeah, what?"
Me:"Yeah I just saw you walking here with your beautiful sense of style, I thought I should say hello"
Her:"Oh wow that's so sweet, gosh"
I forced myself a bit further into the conversation by asking her what she studies and stuff, she noticed the RSD guys, so I said i'm going to go back to them, but let me grab your number (first time asking for a number), she gave me the excuse that she isn't into guys, which I didn't believe (she stared at my lips, might have been crossing her tall legs not sure), but I was like okay let's both get out of here, I already stumbled it this far. I was happy to see it, I felt like I could have Insta-dated her, but felt some obligation to stick to the group, so went for a number half-assedly I guess. The RSD guys where like wow direct approach huh, what did she say, felt like she could have been insta-dated too, where pissed to send a newbie to do this stuff. I would NOT be incredulous if someone with skills would take her home within an hour, even tough she's an 18 year old angel.
Observations/questions/remarks so far
-It somehow feels like a new world is opening (or reopening, can't wrap my head around this cognitive dissonance and "coming back" feeling, making observations and having thoughts I haven't had in years, not just dating, but social skills, psychology, NLP stuff, wish I really had worked it for the last 8 years, might have become skilled as well)
-I need to hide my intent so I won't come over to try-hard, not sure how, any help???
-Girls are lonely. I started having this realization in social circle completly on my own over the course of last year, I was not coming outside so yeah nothing happens, but why are these girls who get outside nearly begging me to rescue them, how could they be this desperate, it's like they don't want to go out anymore and hook up, and grudgingly sleep with players they don't like, but nice guys don't put out or rescue them from a life of night game misery (God why didn't I realize this back then, all the "Are you single?", "When are you starting to work", girls subtly letting me know they're dropping everything just to meet me). When doing the newbie assignment it looked like at a certain point one out of three girls starts looking at my lips (must be something about my gaze as well, don't control this yet, but definitely had this even before game, I used to be told I had a killer look (Edgy?-Sometimes a girl would freeze up when locking eye contact, haven't had that in years as well), I also begin noticing me doing the tilting of the head when I feel I'm being dominant over her, I did this automatically, start noticing this now. This looks to confirm my observation, and some of the RSD guys get laid off girls who just can't seem to find someone (decent), somehow fucked up. Well actually I let so many girls pass last year, so uh yeah
-Girls feel rejected so fast, it's insane to have this realization as well, the girls I'd cold approach seem intensely in to me, but seem also to grow cold and dissapointed fast as well (the old term bitch shield still seems to pop up, really have to unlearn that and negging, forget about that last years tough)
-I want to open two-sets on a day game basis, don't know how yet (getting past the other girl(s)), would really appreciate some help here!!!
-Have to train that eye contact, and posture, and voice, sense of style, and so on
-Night game we shall see
-Girlschase folks from Belgium or the Netherlands, say hi!
-Girls, even from lower quality, sometimes make "the moves" as well it seems, women choose, but sometimes it looks like they are really using kino and other pick stuff too to keep you orbiting around her, somehow this seems... unfair... actually always felt this way, and sometimes it's like they are asking for compliance too ("to friendzone you, perhaps to boyfriendzone you?")
-Shit test, ball breaking, but somehow you can sometimes feel them coming up mere moments before they do, and hey, I start enjoying myself failling (or passing them), though the drawn-out ones I still get busted in, sometimes, with girls I'm not interested in (because too young probably), it feels like I'm passing them better, and don't even notice them. Same goes for compliance, the girls I don't want/can't want, I treat them more as "little" girls automatically
-Chase frames, looks like an interesting thing, let them do all the work, don't chase, replace
-Sexual talk, first date sex, seems like a far away thing, though never done the whole months chasing and getting her too
-RSD guys told me I have a whole boyfriend vibe, someone to settle with, not to sleep with on the first day (I was dressed up better than usual tough), not sure if this has to be a bad thing, and of course nobody is a saint
-What about asking "Are you single?" a bit indirectly, like talking about shopping, then saying "is that where you go with your boyfriend?", had some desired results...
-What if during dates, I grab her hand quickly, what if I just go for the goddamn kiss already, instead fumbling and probably wasting hours of her and my time
-Girls so easily take off their headphones
-So much more work to do...
Might have forgotten stuff, but it's a really long post, really hope to hear some feedback
