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FR  "Just point and click." Out with 2 buddies.

PinotNoir

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Most of my logs are too short to bother posting (e.g., she said "yes"/"no", the end), so I'm thinking about doing a weekly FR in the future that is just an accumulation of all of my FRs for that week....

Anyway, tonight I went out with 2 friends to a hipster bar. One I consider a partial-natural (i.e., naturally good with women, but not naturally great with women, but could be with more knowledge/practice), which we'll call #1, and the other I consider a beginner, which we'll call #2.

I felt pretty sexy tonight. I had shaved recently. I was wearing a nice, simple chain-linked necklace and one of my favorite tight plaid long-sleeve shirts with turquoise/blue color that just pops. Unfortunately, no successes.

First Girl
I'm coming back from the bar with my 1st drink in hand. As I'm sitting down, my friends are like, "Did you see your twin over there? She's got the same, exact color and pattern shirt as you." I turn and see that she's skinny, but can't see face. I immediately put beer down and walk over.

She has a pretty face, but some acne. Not a huge deal, as it doesn't make her ugly.

Said in a playful tone:
"Hey! Why didn't you call and tell me that you'd be wearing that shirt?"
"Huh? What do you mean?"
"We're wearing the same color and pattern of shirt! I'm so embarrassed."
"Haha, oh my god, I'm so sorry. I should have called you to let you know."
"Well, just remember for next time."
We kind of banter back and forth on this. I wasn't quite sure what to say after this, so:
"How are you doing tonight?"
"I'm doing well, thanks. I actually just got off work from next door."
I ask her if she's single, and she says "yes."
I then deep-dive into what her job is. It's a popsicle store. I ask her if her dream job is cold sticks (trying to use an innuendo, but she didn't pick up on it). She says no, it's just a temporary job. She begins answering in shorter and shorter responses, not good. I find out her college, major, and that she wishes to write non-fiction books, but she won't elaborate more on the books. I joke that the books will be about popsicles.
I invite her over, but she politely declines.
Then I keep deep-diving about career and school some more. She's starting to answer in too short of responses and tells me that she just came by to say "hi" to her bartender friend. I get the hint, so I say:
"Well, I'll give it one last shot. Before I leave, why don't we exchange numbers?"
"Nah... I won't give out my number, but I will give out my facebook."
"Oh ok... no thanks. It was a pleasure to meet you though, Name. Have a goodnight and I'm looking forward to those popsicle non-fiction books coming out!"
"Haha, thanks, nice to meet you too."

Second Girl
Friend #1 approaches a group of 3 girls. He comes back and got rejected. They seem like playful girls, and after a drink, I'm feeling kind of loose. I ask him the exact line he said so that I can jokingly approach with the same line.

I approach the 3 girls:

"Pardon me, but can you guess which one of you that I'm attracted to?"
I think this opener is pretty smooth; because if a girl says "me," game on.
Since my friend had just said this, they all begin to laugh casually and say "deja vu."
"Haha, I just wanted to say the same thing my friend said because I thought it was funny, and I wanted to talk with you."
I direct my eye contact and conversation at the girl I'm interested in (which is not the girl my friend talked with).
"Hi, my name is Pinot. What's your name?"
"Haha, hi Pinot. My name is Name."
"I love that red scarf and matching red lipstick you're wearing. It just makes your face glow."
The whole thing is kind of a joke, so I add in another comment:
"It's like sun drops are raining down upon you."
We're enjoying it and having a good time.
"Are you single?"
"Yes, I am actually."
"Ah, this must be fate. So what is your passion? What do you live for in life?"
"Ummm....."
Her friend chimes in and says, "Well, she's a graphic designer."
I comment on the fact that I'm also in the tech industry.
She tells me some details about her work, etc.
"Well, I don't want to interrupt a girl's night out too long. Before I leave, how about we exchange numbers?"
She politely declines.
One of the girls chimes in, "Well, we have another friend that is single too!"
"Haha, well, I'll be sure to tell my other friend to come over then and say the same line."
The girl speaks up, "Haha, no, I'm engaged. Don't send him over."
Then the normal nice to meet you, have a good night, yadda-yadda-yadda.

Third/Fourth Girl
Friend #2 keeps saying, "Man, it's so tough to approach." Friend #1 just keeps saying, "It's easy man. Just point and click. It's just point and click."

For some reason, this really inspired me. I see a girl that catches my eye, so I decide to go over and talk with her. Nothing special in this one. She brings up her boyfriend almost immediately in conversation, but I deep-dive her anyway just saying that I love to know more about people. She tells me about her dream job of just working as part of a film crew, how she loves Oxford and log cabins, etc. Then the normal nice to meet you and have a goodnight.

Later, I talked to another girl, but pretty much the same scenario (boyfriend).

Final
What baffles me is that I felt so sexy tonight. It just shocked me that these women turned me down, so that's good that my confidence is high. I know that conversation could have been better though, more sexual and direct and less "choppy." I really focused on my voice, but made it too fast at times. Still, I would have thought at least one of them would have given me their numbers.

I guess it just wasn't in the stars tonight. Any advice is welcome, as always.

Thanks,
PN
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Well Pinot, unless your approaches are really targeted, then there are times when four girls reject you. Even the best face rejection like this. I think you didn't approach enough. From reading some FRs, it might seem like everyone has crazy success with all the girls they meet. But really, most FRs tend to focus on the girls that show at least some interest and leave out the failures. It seems like you are having trouble getting girls to hook. Maybe a little work on fundamentals. But don't get discouraged. You just need to approach more.

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PrettyDecent

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Hey Pinot - everybody has nights like this man. Don't sweat it; you'll kill 'em tomorrow ;)

~Nick
 

PinotNoir

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Thanks guys; I appreciate it. At the end of the night, I was trying to get my friends to come with me to another bar, but it was getting late, and we all had to wake up early.

How many girls do you think that I should approach in a night? Maybe 5 in bar #1, 5 in bar #2, and then 5 on the street?

I tend to approach probably less than I should due to my standards (which I need to lower). However, I tend to approach any (slim) girl on the 1st approach just to warm myself up, as is evident with this FR. It seems to do a good job of starting the initial momentum.

My style is more day game, and I still find the night bar scene elusive at times, while I get numbers/dates during day. I'm just not sure how to change my style. Maybe more pre-opening and sexually stimulating conversation?
 
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