Hey Smith,
There’s a review of his product I believe on dating skills review and it says just about what you say about his marketing being snake oily and crappy and his product being lacking in relation to his marketing.
I remember reading the bit about his ex gf too; it was on aaron sleazys site a while back; and I think that has potential to be legit. I’ve read of a couple of accurate “caught pua’s” who were revealed to be fake and just good at pr and good at marketing. The individuals who were exposed didn’t particularly surprise me though.
I haven’t bought products from nearly anyone (because I do think a lot of what I want is just out there for free, and I have to be discriminating about what I spend my limited funds on).
But a number of ways you can judge I think are helpful. One: what you are doing here helps, asking people who are credible if they’ve tried him or not. I checked out a product a while back because Chase recommended; without that recommendation I would have scoffed and never bought the product but thought it was pretty good once I got it. So that would be a recommendation from someone who I trust and someone who wouldn’t recommend anything that wasn’t high quality in their own mind.
Then after that I think you can judge the individuals on a couple of things. You can judge them on their character and you can judge them on their appearance/presentation and abilities.
This is kind of like “who you are speaks more than what you say or do”; you can get a feel for a guy’s character and how they are with others and judge how honest they would be in their product based on how honest they are with others. Fore example Chase, would go out of his way to answer questions that would be littered on the Girlschase comments and had the moral compass and helping desire to go out of his way to give his 2 cents of help to any who’d ask. Judging from that I would think that yeah if he puts out a product he’ll have the same moral foundation to that, and will have the integrity to put out nothing less than a product that he feels he can really help others with and that is really high value. That’s moral character.
Then there’s who they are and appearance and visuals of their abilities and presentation and stuff. I feel skeptical if Wayne’s legit or not because of the snake oil salesman pitches sure.
Or because of the videos and business model that I've seen other similar guys with little substance but lots of flash present with: the business model of “look here are hot girls, look here I slept with them, looks I'm fat and ugly too and you can do it”. There are guys like this like success channels on youtube that flash their nice sport cars and “look I read all these books and have all this money”, or fitness channels posting abs and snapshots like that every video, “look I have a ripped body and girls are into me, look at the hot girls I'm doing videos with and check me out on vacation on the beach and stuff”.
That’s a business model of “here’s the flash here’s the new money and I’ll tell you just how to get it just find out here watch my videos look at my material, oh and here look at some more of it and im just getting through to telling you the bulk of it and teaching you a great deal of it, but here theres some more to it and so on”. And people become insight junkies continuing to go on and on watching their stuff of which actual substance is very little, and the sellers just keep promising more and more things and just delivering a tiny bit enough of it to keep people feeding like hamsters on feeders.
In appearance that model is offsetting about wayne; there’s that and he’s pretty out of shape too which is odd for any guys I’ve seen that have been good with women. Not because women would be less attracted to them, but because you’d think that if they could get the huge job of figuring women out settled in their life they’d be able to at least get to -20% bodyfat too (but that’s subjective and nothing conclusive lol).
So yeah that’s my opinion on the matter at least man. Maybe he’s legit or has an exceptional product. But maybe likely he’s not and is mediocre at best.
I guess if there’s a money back guarantee, then it wouldn’t hurt to find out for yourself though if your curiosity really pulls you to doing that huh?
Cheers,
Gem