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Will_V

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Hey guys, I thought I'd give a little of my perspective on this topic, since it's something that's been on my mind lately, and in some ways I've felt like it's always been a part of my life in one form or another.

I don't want to make this about any particular issue, because although lately things have gone south in a big way all around the world, as we all know it's only the cloud at the top of the volcano that has been boiling for millennia. Societies have always been hostile to individuals, to people who seek to become conscious of themselves and maneuver outside of the boundaries that societies set for them.

I also don't want to make this about myself, but I do want to give a small bit of context. To put it bluntly I have never been someone who fits comfortably into any position someone else has set for me. I have always had a deep love for the world that I live in, for the people striving in it to make it a better place, even for the nature of this reality we live in that is not always pleasant, accommodating, or just. But I have always been anti-authority, I have always seen risk in places where others see comfort, felt oppressed by boundaries that others conform to so easily that it seems they do not even notice. In some ways I am far more optimistic and idealistic than others I know, while at the same time I know that my nature is of someone who is built for war and not peace. Perhaps that is what makes it difficult for me to live comfortably in the restrictions of society, because when I feel backpressure it is as if I have found the catalyst for who I really am, rather than a sign that I should take a step back.

Take that for what you will, I only want to point out that it is possible to reconcile the predilection to fight against the impositions of a society with a deeply constructive and accepting mindset, rather than a nihilistic or some other equally degenerate perspective. Anything else is likely to eventually end in self destruction or, facing such, a desperate leap into the lifeboat of conformity, to which sequence of events nature has attached a virtually permanent future incapacity of self-determination.

With that in mind, here are my reflections on living well in a hostile society.

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The Top And Bottom Are Similar, But It's Better To Be At The Top

I have never been rich, but it seems to me that there are a lot of similarities between being at the top and bottom of a society, with some important differences.

Society is built around the middle class, and this is the safest, most conformist place to be. When you are middle class, you are at the center of the herd. There is nothing particularly distinguishing about you for anyone to target. All the propaganda of society is created for you, you are society's favorite resource because although you are not the biggest resource individually, together you constitute the stable and easily led 'body' of society. Laws, regulations, public infrastructure, all of it is built for your permanence and general wellbeing (as long as you stay there and accept what society takes from you).

When you are at the bottom of society, by default everything is hostile to you. You have little value to society or to other people, you are looked down on and questioned as to why, if you have any use whatsoever, you are still down there? Society looks at you as a burden rather than an asset. Women (all else being equal) want nothing to do with you, and people often try to find ways to grind you down a bit for their own pleasure.

When you are at the top, when you are very rich, in some ways, everything is also hostile to you, because everyone wants some of what you've got. Governments pursue you for money, your friends and family pursue you for money, women pursue you for money. The threat of kidnap, blackmail, or robbery is ever present. The public infrastructure of society does not receive you easily, as it was built for the middle class and cannot cater to your additional requirements.

But there are important differences: at the bottom, most of the people with whom you share this space are disfunctional, desperate, and unreliable. You have no money or power to build alternatives to the things that are out of your reach. Whereas at the top, you have private networks, private parties, you have the money to make problems go away, to secure certain freedoms, to build spaces in which you can thrive with others of your kind. So long as you are willing to accept that everything needs to be paid for and secured, vetted, and maintained carefully, the world is pretty much your oyster.

What does this have to do with living in a hostile society? Well, if you society is hostile to you, either you aren't in the middle class, or very likely soon you won't be. And since there is nothing good at the bottom, you really must aim for the top. Build a reserve of ‘f*** you’ money, and focus on creating relationships and networks with people who are either moving toward the top, or already there. Even if money was never your thing and you dislike rich people and think they’re all greedy fatcats, it’s time to get practical. It’s your only way to thrive long term.

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The other thing about the top and bottom of society is that, as strange as it sounds, it’s far easier for someone at the bottom of society to offer something to someone at the top, than it is for them to offer something to someone at the middle.

When I have gamed girls very poor (like someone who has not had more than a few hundred in their account for six months or more, which tends to reflect in certain ways) I ran into an interesting occurrence: beautiful girls either rejected me nicely or enthusiastically talked to me, while average girls regularly gave me harsh or dismissive rejections. And when my circumstances changed, this changed as well: average girls would be interested or nice, while very beautiful girls would often look very annoyed by my approach.

This led me to two important realizations: average people (or middle class people in financial terms) are impressed by those things that make you the ‘best’ of the middle class: stability, conformity, reliability, speaking the ‘language’ of normality. Essentially, these people value security above everything else, because that is what they feel is their strong point, and what they either have or don’t have in common with you. They are filled with jealousy toward what is above, and despise what is below, and are on high alert to anything different to themselves, and their first instinct is to see you, especially if you look like you come from below, as a threat.

On the other hand, non-average people are impressed by non-average things. When you approach a beautiful girl, a girl who knows she’s beautiful, and you don’t look like you belong anywhere near the same crowd as she does, several possibilities occur to her: a) you think you deserve her anyway, which raises all kinds of questions. b) you think you share with her something that lies outside of the classes that you two operate in, which raises even more interesting questions and c) you’ve got a big pair of balls to go and take your shot like that, which is interesting to her because audacity and courage are attributes that not only operate outside of class altogether, but make her question herself, as someone who probably hasn’t ever had to have either of those to get the things she wants, and who wonders in the small hours of the morning when life might get around to testing her on these things. And because you don't look like you come from the middle class, you look like you are the embodiment of these things, like the incarnation of something powerful from the chaos of the wild.

This goes for rich people in general, not just women. If there is one principle that this article revolves around, it’s this: when you can show other people how to live well, how to squeeze the juice out of life and lick it off, you will always have a place with them. Because money cannot buy audacity, courage, strength of character, the understanding of how to live and love alongside all the problems that the world imposes on human being. But if you can even, for a moment, show someone that you understand these things, they will give you things in a moment that others toil their entire lives for, just to discover how to acquire some of it for themselves.

And when you have a victim mentality, when poisonous resentment and hatred fill the corners and crevices of your mind, no societal rank or amount of money will get you the adoration of anyone, and even the trophies you have will corrode, and your friends and acquaintances will turn into pernicious enemies, and at the end of your life all the material securities you relied on will disintegrate right before you do.

Body And Mind

There are a lot of bad situations you can find yourself in. Perhaps you are in jail, locked in a tiny cell with no chance of liberty for many years. Perhaps you are in a similar situation, except you are a child and it’s your family home. Perhaps you were living the typical middle class lifestyle, and then someone you love got horribly sick and it wiped out your wealth and happiness simultaneously. Perhaps outwardly everything is fine, and you are locked into a prison of disfunctional or negative thoughts. Or, perhaps society has decided that, for one reason or another, you are no longer compatible with its ‘values’, and the opportunities you always thought were a given, have suddenly vanished.

The first thing to realize is that everything you have can be taken away, at any time. Even your life and liberty are not sovereign. You have no right to not feel pain, to not face troubles or difficult decisions, to not have to make mistakes and bear them. Just as you did not decide to come into existence, you do not decide when you will leave the same, or even what happens in between. Your life is only ever slightly within your control, and even when you do things well and are rewarded, the next day it could all change.

What then, is your role in this existence?

Your role is to learn and adapt, to take what you can control and try to turn it into slightly greater influence and slightly better results, and accept when something is just not yours to decide.

The first thing, of course, is your mind. The mind is your most powerful resource, because it controls your internal reality. Isn’t it surprising how independent the mind is from circumstances, how one person can be in horrible circumstances with a strong, peaceful mind, and another is in relative comfort and riddled with anxiety and anguish? To have mental peace, first someone must accept reality, stop trying to deny it or force it out, but instead welcome it, and sit with it without struggle. Maybe all they will be given is the chance to observe this reality for a few moments longer, or perhaps they will be given a chance to change it. This is not within their control. But what is in their control is to simply dismiss the mental chaos of anger or denial, and be ready, ready for what is happening now, and ready in the following moment, for what comes in the following moment.

Your body is the next thing you can control. It is not always in your control, but it usually is. It is your greatest asset, the inheritance that nature has given you to maintain and to grow. It is the most ready reflection of your mind to those who look upon you, both in terms of what you have created with it, and how you move it. It is like a horse, the reflection of its owner. When it moves effortlessly, easily, capably, without concealed tension, violence, pain or discontent, people perceive its owner as understanding the true nature of things and how to manipulate it. But when it is neglected, or moves jerkily as if hampered by unseen restraints, people perceive its owner as being neglectful, or harbouring disfunctional or unseen mental burdens.

Meditate, exercise, eat well, sit with your body regularly and listen to what it tells you, guide it toward proper expression, and it will be your loyal horse and reflect well on you wherever you go.

The next thing you can control, is how you adapt to the situation you find yourself in. This is a problem for people who perceive themselves as fighting for something, who perceive the volume of their discontent as a form of self-validation. But it’s not hard to do if you don't let your ego run rampant, and it pays dividends.

Is your lifestyle suddenly restricted in some way? Find enjoyment and satisfaction in adaptation. Try to think of small ways to express yourself, to create opportunities, to be resourceful. The beautiful thing is that this is what the human mind is built for – adaptability. It is why humans are soft and unarmored creatures. Even the strongest man alive is vulnerable to virtually every predator in nature, even the weakest or youngest of these predators. This is because nature prepared a much better gift than claws or teeth, a gift that would give us rule over all the other animals and take us so far beyond them that we scarcely perceive as having come from the same root: adaptability.

Be grateful for the chance to use it. Smile in your effort to survive, be alert to what is effective and useful, open your mind to possibilities you never considered. Look forward to tomorrow when your mind will be stretched a little further, become a little more adaptable. Take pride in your successes, and laugh at your failures, and soon you will thrive anywhere.

This is your lot, your role, it is this experience of moving into adaptability that you will carry with you to the end of your life and reflect upon with contentment, and you will look with pity on those people whom nature never tested, for nature only tests those she wishes to work upon.

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Those are a couple of my thoughts on how to live well in a hostile society. In some ways, what has happened recently is a good thing, because it's very hard to make the decision to live a certain way when one's enemies are so obscured, and restrictions are so integrated and invisible, that one wonders if they even exist. But when they manifest themselves openly and painfully, when one realizes that that uneasy feeling as one wandered the garden was real, it is both a relief and an opportunity: now the problem is in the open, now it can be dealt with, and now is the time to live decisively, intentionally, for the things that one values.
 

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Congratulations on such a dense and well-thought-out, coherent text!

I found myself nodding at much of it.

I especially like your comments about the bottom, middle, and upper classes.

I would add that the middle class is afraid of risk - that can be something as inane as securing a line of credit for half a million to renovate a building and transform it into a source of passive income, for example. The motto that you should have "no debts" is the motto of the peasant, as is the motto that "the money you make is to spend and enjoy life." The entire compass is misplaced here.

The objective is to be able to live off passive income so that whatever labour you exchange for money is never an obligation requiring any servile bondage from you. Those brought up in the lower classes can have a structural aversion to such talk though, and assume it as simply impossible to execute in real life.

Regarding the most beautiful girls, I can say that I've had a number of shots with what the community calls "10" girls and that what has led me to not sleep with a "personal '10'" yet is simply my mind not accepting that I was worthy of sleeping with them. But yeah I found it easier to entice them when I was working in an unstable, uncommon, etc. job (as a tour guide) and/or doing day game approaches than I do nowadays that I've navigated to a "conformist" "middle-class" "9-to-5" job.

The thing is: full-time work consumes a lot of your time (and psychological space) and so you end up taking less action on the girls front. What I've been doing is substituting cold approach for social circle game, which is slower and where the quality is, on average, lower. I'm working on a number of prospects, and some are what you'd call above average gals, in the 8 range 2 of them (not ugly but not beautiful, with tight bods), but the rest are around the 7 range.

The part about your body is also very important. I am still recovering from low back injury and working around certain constraints (chronic pain if I don't stick to a careful regimen, diet and exercise, length of time sitting, etc.) and I can tell you that not being able to sit with a girl for more than 30 minutes straight (1 hour at the absolute most) without feeling pain makes it harder to seduce them on dates haha.
 
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Glad you enjoyed it @Bismarck!
I would add that the middle class is afraid of risk - that can be something as inane as securing a line of credit for half a million to renovate a building and transform it into a source of passive income, for example. The motto that you should have "no debts" is the motto of the peasant, as is the motto that "the money you make is to spend and enjoy life." The entire compass is misplaced here.
Very true, it's interesting how that also adds to the similarity between the bottom and the top - in both instances you own very little, whereas at the top you have a lot more power than even the middle class who own and strive to own the most.
Regarding the most beautiful girls, I can say that I've had a number of shots with what the community calls "10" girls and that what has led me to not sleep with a "personal '10'" yet is simply my mind not accepting that I was worthy of sleeping with them. But yeah I found it easier to entice them when I was working in an unstable, uncommon, etc. job (as a tour guide) and/or doing day game approaches than I do nowadays that I've navigated to a "conformist" "middle-class" "9-to-5" job.

Yes I'm not sure if it's entirely easier to sleep with them (at least long term) but I definitely found them much more accepting of my approach when I looked poorer than average girls (and especially average foreign girls, who worship the middle class).

I think it's also an internal reality thing - when you are poor you consider yourself a scrapper, a fighter, someone who wakes up every day and takes life by the horns, someone whose gains are not given but taken. But when you have a work routine, loads of bills to pay, and a certain combination of vague discontent with no actual adversity, it reflects in a sort of blandness in one's overall presentation.

The thing is: full-time work consumes a lot of your time (and psychological space) and so you end up taking less action on the girls front. What I've been doing is substituting cold approach for social circle game, which is slower and where the quality is, on average, lower. I'm working on a number of prospects, and some are what you'd call above average gals, in the 8 range 2 of them (not ugly but not beautiful, with tight bods), but the rest are around the 7 range.
I've never had a substantial social circle, but I have seen good evidence that it works reasonably well when someone operates in the right scenes with a good level of intentionality. It's probably the most evolved form of game, and is probably ideal when one is already near the top of a scene and easily comes across as the highest value. Overall I consider it to be the ideal one to work toward long term in combination with the rest of one's lifestyle, but not particularly good for learning or making rapid progress with women.

The part about your body is also very important. I am still recovering from low back injury and working around certain constraints (chronic pain if I don't stick to a careful regimen, diet and exercise, length of time sitting, etc.) and I can tell you that not being able to sit with a girl for more than 30 minutes straight (1 hour at the absolute most) without feeling pain makes it harder to seduce them on dates haha.

Hope it heals up soon! I find it a bit startling how much a semi-concealed injury can affect other people's perception - I had a foot injury last year and walked with a very slight limp for a few months, and it seemed to me that people were generally far less apprehensive about playing those little games with personal space that you sometimes get in a city.

I'm not sure if it's simply a sort of animal instinct toward seeing someone injured, or whether they perceive it not as an injury but as a psychosomatic effect of low self esteem, but it was a marked difference. I did find that being slightly aggressive with body language was usually enough to equalize it, so I think it's somewhat of the latter.

I usually have very good body language, it's something I enjoy using to capture attention and get those reflexive IOIs when I am out and about, so I know how much it can influence things for better or worse. Especially with people who don't know you, it's virtually everything they go by in terms of what kind of person they think you are.
 

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Regarding the healing soon, I'm working on it haha. Been like this since March 2017 though so pretty chronic. Tried a few things but current regimen (following it since January 2021 or so) has been proving pretty efficient at making me at least functional in many ways, though I still can't swim, run, jump, or carry more than 5kg on each arm.

I wanted to add one thing to your meta-theory regarding the upper class though. I don't know how much contact you've had with the elites but they can often also be just as easily swayed or "brainwashed" by the zeitgeist/mass media as the middle class. The only difference is they have more money/assets. I think we tend to idealize the upper class as if they were gods but I believe it is only a minority of the upper class that is truly autonomous/independent/sovereign and answers to no one, and that minority is usually the fortune makers and not the inheritors.

Fuck you money is good, yes, but it often isn't enough. Like you said, the mind is the key. I'm lucky that I was raised without a television in the house, and so have been accustomed, from an early age, to have a generally skeptical attitude towards the "zeitgeist" or those "values" as you call them in your stream of consciousness prose above.
 

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Regarding the healing soon, I'm working on it haha. Been like this since March 2017 though so pretty chronic. Tried a few things but current regimen (following it since January 2021 or so) has been proving pretty efficient at making me at least functional in many ways, though I still can't swim, run, jump, or carry more than 5kg on each arm.

I wanted to add one thing to your meta-theory regarding the upper class though. I don't know how much contact you've had with the elites but they can often also be just as easily swayed or "brainwashed" by the zeitgeist/mass media as the middle class. The only difference is they have more money/assets. I think we tend to idealize the upper class as if they were gods but I believe it is only a minority of the upper class that is truly autonomous/independent/sovereign and answers to no one, and that minority is usually the fortune makers and not the inheritors.

Fuck you money is good, yes, but it often isn't enough. Like you said, the mind is the key. I'm lucky that I was raised without a television in the house, and so have been accustomed, from an early age, to have a generally skeptical attitude towards the "zeitgeist" or those "values" as you call them in your stream of consciousness prose above.
Regarding your injury problem, I Ve made a post about this, including lower back pain. I Ve gone through and some friends as well. We were told no lifting, and other shit by doctor, and always the the best route is often the other. I Ve seen this pattern so often, it s becoming ridiculous. From January till now is a very long time without sport. 4 years means you're clearly doing something wrong and many aspects can be improved.

This reply is not to insult your doctor or your efforts, but to show how there is a better way at handling this type of situation.

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Regarding the healing soon, I'm working on it haha. Been like this since March 2017 though so pretty chronic. Tried a few things but current regimen (following it since January 2021 or so) has been proving pretty efficient at making me at least functional in many ways, though I still can't swim, run, jump, or carry more than 5kg on each arm.
Sounds like a nasty one, I don't have experience dealing with significant long term injuries but I hope you find a solution that makes you as functional as possible.

There are a lot of possibilities to explore - you see athletes go through horrific injuries and come back to the arena in the time it takes for most people to recover from a sprain, so there's a lot of knowledge out there when it comes to healing.
I wanted to add one thing to your meta-theory regarding the upper class though. I don't know how much contact you've had with the elites but they can often also be just as easily swayed or "brainwashed" by the zeitgeist/mass media as the middle class. The only difference is they have more money/assets. I think we tend to idealize the upper class as if they were gods but I believe it is only a minority of the upper class that is truly autonomous/independent/sovereign and answers to no one, and that minority is usually the fortune makers and not the inheritors.

Agreed, especially when the fortune has been made in certain types of industries.

When you work like hell to create a fortune, I imagine your reality can be put in stark contrast with the 'truths' that the average people swallow - but it probably depends on the extent to which you had to create the fortune from nothing yourself, and see the entire cross-section of realities on your way up, or whether you were brought up in a 'functional illusion' already rich.

I'm not trying to say rich/elites are better than anyone else, I am trying to say that it's the best place to be as an escapee of the middle class. I was brought up in an unusual environment where both my parents were 'retired' and I was homeschooled. The crucial aspect of this was that while my family was never poor or even close to it, we escaped downward in a sense, not upward. The net result was that although we had great autonomy as a family, and never lacked resources, we lacked any integration with the top part of society - or the middle class for that matter - and so it became very easy to slide into a sort of comfortable comraderie with people who were outwardly 'revolutionists' in the sense that they were unhappy with the status quo (like us) but in practical terms were highly disfunctional people whose actual reasons for escaping society were perhaps not so pure as their idealism.

You can see this easily if you go to a convention on any hot issue such as climate change/environmentalism, socialism, etc. And even more so in churches. Many people who are squeezed out of society for practical reasons (which usually amounts to the inability to hold a job) end up substituting idealism for fixing their actual practical shortcomings.

Not everyone is like this, of course. There are people who walk a different path in life because they have different values, but these are actually far more rare than those people who would like to be seen that way.

So I have been very interested in understanding whether it is better to escape upward or downward. Because no doubt, as you say, there are certain safe illusions and certain disfunctionalities that plague the upper class. What makes the top better than the bottom, to me, is that a) the people at the top are almost always very practical, functional people, which is not a bad crowd to be in and b) when you have money you can put together the lifestyle you want, throwing this out and bringing this in, determining what you like and what you don't - whereas at the bottom this is very difficult to do (although, as you pointed out, the mind is very powerful, and can create a very constructive reality in almost any circumstances).
 

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What makes the top better than the bottom, to me, is that a) the people at the top are almost always very practical, functional people, which is not a bad crowd to be in and

They are not "practical".

In fact, it's easier to sell more stuff to them :) Once you have an established "trust" (brand).

They are in their own bubble. I once accidentally insult a group of realtors in a room. :) because if you happen to be around here often, I can be very transparent.

Sincerely.... With COVID, everyone and everything is really exposed. :) And I am serious about this so bad that I wish people know.

As an Asian whom we are accustomed to 'sleight of hand' by females, bosses, other men and I have serve the military for 2 years where the game of chicken is considered "normal".

I think Westerners, Europeans will benefit if they just observe or quietly learned from "third world Asians," ghetto people.

Anyway,

The people at the "bottom" when they share the same beliefs as you and you share the same beliefs as them, there's a certain level of happiness that you can never achieve with rich and successful people.

But I'm not sure if it's money. Still figuring it out.

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I have revealed how I do certain "dark" things in Girlschase so that I can gauge where someone is at. I'm very sensitive to small things if that makes sense. I am not sure where the small things is at. I just don't Iike if the world is too "unfair".

I do this thing in disingenuous ways at times to destroy/expose the disingenuous act. I never use it for personal benefit. It's very evil.

We all are fragile, really. It's not funny at all. :/

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They are not "practical".

In fact, it's easier to sell more stuff to them :) Once you have an established "trust" (brand).

They are in their own bubble. I once accidentally insult a group of realtors in a room. :) because if you happen to be around here often, I can be very transparent.

When I say 'practical' I mean that they are often people who have goals and know how to reach those goals. Which is a better crowd to be in compared to the raft of people squeezed out of the bottom of society whose idealism masks a very undisciplined and inconsistent perspective on even the goals they have set for themselves.

Maybe I've just had too much of that - I used to be an environmentalist/socialist at university and go to various conventions on these topics, and looking back, the average person who frequented these events was very much at the bottom of society and socially valueless in a general sense - often lacking calibration, showing depressed/anxious tendencies, and generally just with an overwhelming sense of ego masking a completely disfunctional internal reality (I mean just look at Greta Thunberg, and imagine her even less attractive and completely broke). And when you spend time in this ambience you start to trade off your habits of discipline, consistency, and your ability to rationalize cold hard truths for that shared ego/idealism trip.

Maybe this happens at the top of society as well in some sense, I mean I know silicon valley have their own sort of blinders and disfunctionalities, but I think the average person trying to start or maintain a business, who has a lot of money to manage, needs to be pulled together on some level in order to do their job.

I'm sure in the end it's more of a situation where quality social connections are relatively few anywhere you go, but the problem with rubbing shoulders at the bottom is that most of the people there will probably not be useful to you, and possibly a liability.

Sincerely.... With COVID, everyone and everything is really exposed. :) And I am serious about this so bad that I wish people know.

As an Asian whom we are accustomed to 'sleight of hand' by females, bosses, other men and I have serve the military for 2 years where the game of chicken is considered "normal".

I think Westerners, Europeans will benefit if they just observe or quietly learned from "third world Asians," ghetto people.

Within organisations (especially hierarchical ones) there's definitely a lot of bs to deal with. What I'm considering is how to grow my network with the more 'free floating' entrepreneur types - those people who have decided to take matters - financial, mental, dating, and otherwise, into their own hands and triumph with it on their own terms.

The internet is the last bastion of real freedom that exists in the world, probably because it's just too big to control right now (although that could change). But it still offers incredible opportunities of moneymaking, information sharing, and distributed networking.

Maybe when I refer to the 'top' of society, I'm not so much referring to the traditional upper class so much as this new class of people who independently actualize themselves in every domain, with the internet as their primary tool. I think these people are the real antibodies to the sickness of modern society - primarily because they are successful, which gives them the ability to build and construct things, and operate certain levers.

Anyway,

The people at the "bottom" when they share the same beliefs as you and you share the same beliefs as them, there's a certain level of happiness that you can never achieve with rich and successful people.

I'm sure this is the case - there are people at every level who have something to offer in terms of understanding how to get more out of life - but there is also, in my opinion, a poisonous disfunctionality that often comes part and parcel with the apparent deeper understanding of reality that you share with them.

There are very, very few people who are capable of understanding a contradiction of reality deeply, and constructing and following a path that goes some way toward fixing it, and many more who use that understanding as a way to escape from an otherwise disfunctional existence.

I think this is a pernicious problem, it's something that can ruin a man who had his foot braced against the block, ready to spend himself in decisive action, and who ends up doing nothing more than sitting there holding up one corner of the psychological frame that keep him and his companions blinded to nature's unbearable judgement.

That's why I always judge myself in two ways: according to my ethics, and according to the ethics of nature - the ethics of practical success, of power and expansion. If one of these these tests is not passed, I consider myself a failure.

Because idealism is like a beautiful but vulnerable girl, powerful enough to make the garden of reality bloom in full force, but too weak to save herself from being sullied or destroyed by uncouth beasts of insurgent reality. So a man must become something of an uncouth beast himself, an engine of practical success by any means possible, so that he can coopt those two realities simultaneously, and make it possible for them to truly live and manifest in him, on his own terms.
 

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Being outcome independent is also a way to ascend to some kind of an exclusive "upper class club".

Even when you make middle class money, being 100% unphased by the world's BS is a powerfull magnet to other people.

Very true. I do think though that if you really are middle class - tethered to a particular location, deep inside a career that you have to maintain, saving for your retirement etc - it's simply going to be hard to make your own choices about things. You just have too much to lose, and what you have is tightly integrated to a society which may turn hostile to you and your beliefs.

On a personal level, I 100% agree - I think seduction itself is just the tip of the iceberg of the collection of skills and perspectives that enable you to inspire other people to live a better life, which draws them in toward you. A charismatic person is often nothing more than someone who seems to be more certain of how to be happy and successful than you are - and you definitely can't express that while running around getting jaded and crushed by things out of your control.
 
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