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LJBF Rejection after Kiss

adamw

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Just went out with a girl on a after a cold approach. We kissed halfway through, but afterwards she said she just wants to be friends cause she just very recently got out of a 2-yr relationship last week.

I teased her about it (“well today didn’t FEEL very friendly” with a sly smile) and (when she said I looked cute later on, I said “oh don’t say that, we’re just friends” with a cheeky smile). She laughed at both of those frame teases. I can tell that she likes me a decent amount.

But then she restated “LJBF” at the end of our date, cause she literally just got out of a 2-year relationship last week. So I asked directly, “are you saying you’re only interested in hanging out if we’re explicitly just friends?” To which she said “maybe, I don’t know. Are you looking for FWB or a relationship?” I responded that “I’m not looking for anything in particular, I’m open to whatever happens. But I have a lot of friends and am not really looking for more friends. I’m down to hangout again and see what happens.” She replied that she’s probably down to hangout again. So we left it at that – she’s uncertain about whether she wants me as just a friend or as more, but we’ll probably (not guaranteed) hang out in a few days.

How should I act on this next date (and all future dates)? What should my style of texting be? Should I just do the “I’m a lover” frame strategy? I feel like I have to approach this with more nuance than the typical “I’m a lover” strategy?

I have the gut feeling that we gotta at least kiss/makeout next time, if I want to avoid the LJBF-zone. I think I could definitely set a flirty vibe, but I anticipate that setting a SEXUAL vibe would be hard. For example, I likely could see us having one short kiss (and I likely could see her saying “LJBF” again afterwards), but I don’t think she’d be down to makeout/hookup. And I don’t want to be pushy about us getting physical, cause I want her to be comfortable, and I don’t want to seem like I’m not being understanding with her.

I’ve read this article but it doesn’t seem to cover the special scenario I just described.

Any advice about how to proceed?
Adam
 

TomInHo

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Your scenario ain’t special

She used the word friend because she ain’t looking for nothing serious. She just wants to get fucked

Therefore you shouldn’t be worried about kissing on your next date and what she says. But instead be more focus on sticking your dick inside her. Because if you play it too safe she will for sure hook up with someone else that’s more aggressive

Good luck 🍀
 

KJ Francis

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I have the gut feeling that we gotta at least kiss/makeout next time,
Yeah maybe like a passionate manhandle push her against the wall scenario, pretty soon into getting her alone

I don’t think she’d be down to makeout/hookup. And I don’t want to be pushy about us getting physical, cause I want her to be comfortable, and I don’t want to seem like I’m not being understanding with her.

Like he said above, don't get hung up on the words. Don't get in logic convo about conflict. Imagine how you would do it with no words at all... Eye contact, proximity, touch...

Yes to lover frame

She is saying "friends" as in "please don't try to be my boyfriend".
 

gameboy

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Agree with the 2 posts above.

she said “maybe, I don’t know. Are you looking for FWB or a relationship?”

she wants FWB so you're golden

don't lose any time though :)
 

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You were putting to much emphasis on the word friend, this is normal with vulnerable post break up women...I had one that always called me, my friend every 2 seconds I just ignored it, you addressing so much the friend word is basically the equivalent of you failing a shit test, your addressing it so much is unnatractive, you should have ignored it..
 
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Just went out with a girl on a after a cold approach. We kissed halfway through, but afterwards she said she just wants to be friends cause she just very recently got out of a 2-yr relationship last week.

I teased her about it (“well today didn’t FEEL very friendly” with a sly smile) and (when she said I looked cute later on, I said “oh don’t say that, we’re just friends” with a cheeky smile). She laughed at both of those frame teases. I can tell that she likes me a decent amount.

But then she restated “LJBF” at the end of our date, cause she literally just got out of a 2-year relationship last week. So I asked directly, “are you saying you’re only interested in hanging out if we’re explicitly just friends?” To which she said “maybe, I don’t know. Are you looking for FWB or a relationship?” I responded that “I’m not looking for anything in particular, I’m open to whatever happens. But I have a lot of friends and am not really looking for more friends. I’m down to hangout again and see what happens.” She replied that she’s probably down to hangout again. So we left it at that – she’s uncertain about whether she wants me as just a friend or as more, but we’ll probably (not guaranteed) hang out in a few days.

How should I act on this next date (and all future dates)? What should my style of texting be? Should I just do the “I’m a lover” frame strategy? I feel like I have to approach this with more nuance than the typical “I’m a lover” strategy?

I have the gut feeling that we gotta at least kiss/makeout next time, if I want to avoid the LJBF-zone. I think I could definitely set a flirty vibe, but I anticipate that setting a SEXUAL vibe would be hard. For example, I likely could see us having one short kiss (and I likely could see her saying “LJBF” again afterwards), but I don’t think she’d be down to makeout/hookup. And I don’t want to be pushy about us getting physical, cause I want her to be comfortable, and I don’t want to seem like I’m not being understanding with her.

I’ve read this article but it doesn’t seem to cover the special scenario I just described.

Any advice about how to proceed?
Adam

Yeah she's looking for fun, but something about the date made her think you weren't the guy for that. Make sure you're setting a solid sexual frame and coming across as an exciting, sexy dude.

Why do you say "I anticipate that setting a SEXUAL vibe would be hard"? That's exactly what you need to do. Tease her a bunch, innuendo, touch, strong eye contact etc. Fuckboy vibes.

Your response to her question was good, but you gotta seize this opportunity or she'll be out.
 
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