Logistics - Make It Easy For Her

[ProblemSolving]

Looking back, I've lost a lot of girls simply because of poor planned logistics. In the past, I would always get girls to meet me as close to my place as possible in order to make a quick and easy transition back to my house. The only problem is that many girls have to travel 20-45 minutes by transit in order to meet me, and as you might have guessed many of these girls aren't up for a making a long trek for what could be a boring uneventful date. You can't exactly say, "Hey sexy! Let's meet up for some frozen yogurt tomorrow, but don't worry about wasting your time because after we get to know each other a bit, I'm taking you back to my place for an amazing sexual experience." Yeah, that's not happening.

So how do you go about getting with girls that don't exactly live close to you? You make it easy for her to meet you, by meeting close to her house. Once you have her face to face with you, it's easy to lead her back your house. Pick her up in your car, drive home, then grab frozen yogurt/coffee/drinks from a place near your house, and walk back to your place to "watch a movie". What would have been next to impossible to accomplish over text (Getting her to travel to your place), is made super easy when a sexy guy is there to lead the way.

For a long time, I thought there was something different about the girls that lived in my surrounding suburbs because I couldn't seem to get them to meet up consistently. Turns out, all that was needed was to make it easy for them.

 

[PinotNoir]

Good stuff. I'm finding logistics more and more important with every encounter.

I actually get women to drive a long distance (i.e., 20-45min) to where I live pretty easily if I run it like this: "Hey, how about we meet at X place near Y street. I know it's kind of far for you, so I'll pay for your yogurt and coffee so that it's even. Sound good?" Of course, the problem here is that you pay, and I've already been lampooned about this in my paying-for-a-date thread, but women have agreed to it pretty easily.

 

[trashKENNUT]

ProblemSolving, PN,

Yea, Actually Pinot mention something. Incentive. Not in a sense where it's big but something small to let her come (no pun intended!). I think it appreciates girls if it is done without looking like a hassle.

Zac

 

[ProblemSolving]

I actually get women to drive a long distance (i.e., 20-45min) to where I live pretty easily if I run it like this: "Hey, how about we meet at X place near Y street. I know it's kind of far for you, so I'll pay for your yogurt and coffee so that it's even. Sound good?" Of course, the problem here is that you pay, and I've already been lampooned about this in my paying-for-a-date thread, but women have agreed to it pretty easily.

Yeah, I've lost far more girls by trying to get them to make the long trek to my place. It's doable, but not advisable. I had one girl travel 1.5 hours by transit to see me, only for it to go no where because she had me pegged for a boyfriend, so she shut down all my sexual frames haha.

Incentive.

This is true, but put yourself in a hot girl's shoes. You're busy with work, school, and a million of people vying for your attention. You met a sexy guy yesterday when he approached you on the street. You had a brief conversation with him and then gave him your number to meet at another time. Now this guy who you barely know, wants you to travel 30 minutes by train for coffee? You like this guy and find him attractive, but you don't want to make a big time investment in what could very well be a mundane coffee date. So you pass on this guy because he's asking for too much, too soon.

Far easier to meet her on her turf, and then steer the ship into your waters when you are face to face with her.

 

[trashKENNUT]

ProblemSolving,

This is true, but put yourself in a hot girl's shoes. You're busy with work, school, and a million of people vying for your attention. You met a sexy guy yesterday when he approached you on the street. You had a brief conversation with him and then gave him your number to meet at another time. Now this guy who you barely know, wants you to travel 30 minutes by train for coffee? You like this guy and find him attractive, but you don't want to make a big time investment in what could very well be a mundane coffee date. So you pass on this guy because he's asking for too much, too soon.

Far easier to meet her on her turf, and then steer the ship into your waters when you are face to face with her.

I never thought that i could find your blindspot, in a way. We all have some blindspots somewhere. There's a belief that you thinking from a guy's standpoint, but she's a girl, at the end of the day.

However, I think it is important to note down what you wrote. I do believe that there are super attractive girls who are genuinely busy. Usually this girls will free up some day like a Saturday or they will clear up their lunch time or a weekday, Thursday evening.

Most girls have guys treat them on a pedestal and that they will travel to her place and try to convince her and all that. When you ask her to travel for you, you seem different because you do not supplicate. This does not mean you being an ass. So you try to do things as normal even with a hot girl. If she likes you, she tell her schedule and she will try to fit you in her schedule. and if she is genuinely busy, she will not call you or text you on the day itself even if you did text her in the morning to confirm that you meeting.

this is what i found. You can't get every attractive girl, especially when they are busy ones. I kind of spoilt the mainstream on "you can get every girl" type of advice. Eeeks

Zac

 

[ProblemSolving]

When you ask her to travel for you, you seem different because you do not supplicate. This does not mean you being an ass. So you try to do things as normal even with a hot girl. If she likes you, she tell her schedule and she will try to fit you in her schedule. and if she is genuinely busy, she will not call you or text you on the day itself even if you did text her in the morning to confirm that you meeting.

This is precisely why I started this thread. You can easily be stuck in a frame battle with a girl where each of you is trying to make the other supplicate. I once had a girl try to convince me for 2 months to come downtown for drinks, while I tried to convince her to come see me. In the end neither of us supplicated, so we both ended up sexually frustrated. This could have been easily avoided had I just offered to meet her downtown from the beginning, so neither one of us would be supplicating. I'm confident that if I meet a girl face to face, whether I have to travel or she does, she's has a high probability of ending up in my bed. Traveling to meet a girl is something I've field tested extensively and I rarely go home by myself.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Problemsolving,

Yea... Frame battle. But lets hope I didn't come across like that
that. If it is really an inconvenience, then definitely.

I had few girls in which Chase's recent article noted on being socially savvy. I do believe that girls can be blur because while they are busy, yet they do not know what to do.

If it is not possible to get her over because she is busy and she is also blur but she still responsive to your text, then yea definitely you can go there.

I think being chill when meeting her is important. This is what you found out too, I believe.

Zac

 

[PinotNoir]

Yeah, I can see that. It's kind of like how men are expected to approach women. It's the same way with the first date; you just have to suck it up and travel. But, then during the interaction, you lead it to where she's chasing you. Is that in line with your idea ProblemSolving?

I get that and makes sense. Girls are the sellers, and we're the buyers. So, initially, we have to do the approach and then do the travel for date (assuming the initial interaction was not strong enough to already get her chasing you).

I wonder if you can just counter instead and find a place where you both compromise. Example:

Her: "How about we meet at Charlie's Deli?"
Him: "Mmm, that's a little too far for me. How about Henry's Deli?"
Her: "Well, that's too far for me."
Him: "All right, how about we meet in the middle at Mikie's Deli? It's actually closer to you, but not as far as Charlie's "

If she counters this, then it's just getting ridiculous, and you'll either have to ditch her or meet her at Charlie's Deli.

 

[ProblemSolving]

Yea... Frame battle. But lets hope I didn't come across like that
that

I didn't mean having a frame battle with you (No worries there), but with the girls you are trying to meet. It becomes combative instead of cooperative when you ask for too much compliance, too soon. Much easier to just avoid the battle all together by offering to meet her close to her where she lives, AND THEN take her back to your lair and ultimately win the war. It's super easy for girls to be difficult over text, but once you get them in person, where they have to deal with your sexiness and physicality, they become like putty in your hands.

It's the same way with the first date; you just have to suck it up and travel. But, then during the interaction, you lead it to where she's chasing you. Is that in line with your idea ProblemSolving?

Taking a 45 minute train ride to meet a girl is really a small price to pay in the grand scheme of things. I know after I get her back to my place, then she'll be the one traveling to see me from that point on.

The only caution I would give guys is that you must have a solid dating process. If most of your dates end with a kiss on the cheek, then traveling won't really be worth it to you. But if you are consistently closing things out with the girls you meet, then travel away my friend.

I wonder if you can just counter instead and find a place where you both compromise. Example:

Her: "How about we meet at Charlie's Deli?"
Him: "Mmm, that's a little too far for me. How about Henry's Deli?"
Her: "Well, that's too far for me."
Him: "All right, how about we meet in the middle at Mikie's Deli? It's actually closer to you, but not as far as Charlie's "

If she counters this, then it's just getting ridiculous, and you'll either have to ditch her or meet her at Charlie's Deli.

Back in the day I would have said compromise, but now I say, "Get her face to face by any means possible!" because I know I can close her. So if she says:

Her: "How about we meet at Charlie's Deli?"
Me: "Sounds good" Hahaha

I'll meet her at Charlie's Deli and tell her, "I'm not a big fan of deli meats, but I know a good place", and away we go with me leading the way to Pleasure Town. She came to meet you, not the Deli, so it's no big deal.