London or NYC?

[chaseboy321]

I am trying to figure out which of these two cities is best for a guy like me

Goal:
Be able to meet and sleep with tons of attractive women in their 20s, early 30s.
Race preference:
white
north east asian

about me:
guy in early 30s, office job 40-50 hours a week, decent salary, fairly attractive, south asian origin

pickup experience
beginner- so the city i choose should be conducive for a newbie to learn and grow
ideal pickup situations
street (not a nightlife guy)

other considerations
whichever city I pick I want to live there for many years (moved quite a bit in my 20s)
should have good career opportunities

so basically that says it all. I want to focus on my career and bedding attractive women for the next few years.

i have read some threads on other forums on how it is to date in NYC vs London

here is the gist of what i gathered:
London
on avg. women are more attractive, not many ugly fat women.
lots of women from other european countries (who i find very attractive).
not many north-east asian women (could be wrong here). so not enough variety.
may be not as good for career as NYC
hard to rise socially due to class based society

NYC
women - many attractive women but also many unattractive women
more asian women
good for career
more open society
dating is easier - not sure what that means. is it easier to pickup models quality on street? lol

more into sports (US culture in general) - favors extroversion, many muscular dominant guys (not sure how women perceive them though). I am not exactly a social party guy, am skinny (good fashion sense) and can comfortably hold conversations.


from what i know so far, I am inclined towards NYC (even though as % it has less attractive women) because my understanding is that it more dating friendly, women are more open so if I just focus on picking up women on street I should be able to pickup high quality women (i.e. model quality) faster.

would you like to hear thoughts on this. am i missing something? also, any other cities that can offer similar abundance of high quality women and career opportunities that I may have missed.

 

[Bismarck]

New York has a higher girls:guys ratio, where in London it’s a sausagefest.

Not sure if it’s changed since 2010/11 but back then my impression was that English girls are on average unattractive.

There are hot girls, but they tend to act like they’re the tits because there’s so few of them. By contrast, lots of warpigs.

Regarding NYC it seems they’re all about sex-positive feminism. Girls I’ve fucked from NY tended to be easy.

 

[chaseboy321]

Thanks for your input! +1 for NYC.

Agree, that brit girls aren't usually attractive in Europe, but when I was in London couple of years back - there were many eastern european girls as well.

 

[hater58]

I thought previous posts suggested that NY C was in decline

 

[chaseboy321]

Hi @hater58 can you please explain a bit more?

 

[hater58]

Hi @hater58 can you please explain a bit more?

What makes a city good for pickup? Business move.

So before Queen Corona hit I did research endlessly on countries and cities to travel to to get my first overseas experience. As we all know that has to be on hold now. But it seems Eastern Europe and Latin America rule for most desired. I'm an American and I have a business that started...

www.skilledseducer.com

I was referencing some comments from the thread above.

 

[chaseboy321]

What makes a city good for pickup? Business move.

So before Queen Corona hit I did research endlessly on countries and cities to travel to to get my first overseas experience. As we all know that has to be on hold now. But it seems Eastern Europe and Latin America rule for most desired. I'm an American and I have a business that started...

www.skilledseducer.com

I was referencing some comments from the thread above.

Understand you. In my experience, having lived in some cosmopolitan cities, usually it is the immigrant women from other countries to go for. They are self-selected as being more open (and so are willing to leave their home country) and do not have strong social circle. So, I think is I was to live in NYC and London, my focus will be women who are not local.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I live in NYC and it is not what it used to be anymore. Back in the day it was a prime city but as soon as the world heard about the ratios, every guy flooded in. Most bars were sausagefests before lockdowns hit, it truly was slim pickings. Forget cold approaching as most people went out with their crew and social circles, you had to know how to navigate that. The popular spots like Mr Purple and PhD got overrun with PUAs, some of these guys had the vibe of someone straight out of a mystery bootcamp.

 

[pikachu]

I live in NYC and it is not what it used to be anymore. Back in the day it was a prime city but as soon as the world heard about the ratios, every guy flooded in. Most bars were sausagefests before lockdowns hit, it truly was slim pickings. Forget cold approaching as most people went out with their crew and social circles, you had to know how to navigate that. The popular spots like Mr Purple and PhD got overrun with PUAs, some of these guys had the vibe of someone straight out of a mystery bootcamp.

Me, a tech guy, planning my move to NYC after lock down

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Me, a tech guy, planning my move to NYC after lock down

I hate to be that guy but don't bother. The city is going downhill fast, our richest people are leaving, crime is skyrocketing, bars and nightclubs go out of business left to right, and the ratios are already terrible because dudes years back did what you want to.

 

[hater58]

I live in NYC and it is not what it used to be anymore. Back in the day it was a prime city but as soon as the world heard about the ratios, every guy flooded in. Most bars were sausagefests before lockdowns hit, it truly was slim pickings. Forget cold approaching as most people went out with their crew and social circles, you had to know how to navigate that. The popular spots like Mr Purple and PhD got overrun with PUAs, some of these guys had the vibe of someone straight out of a mystery bootcamp.

I feel like nearly everyone is always out in groups of at least two, this happens everywhere IMO. Around when would you say it began to get noticeably worse?

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I feel like nearly everyone is always out in groups of at least two, this happens everywhere IMO. Around when would you say it began to get noticeably worse?

Around 2018 is when it got really bad and by 2019 you noticed it. As soon as Google and the tech giants opened up offices in the city, you got an influx of the Silicon Valley crowd. They are not even competition but they kill the vibe wherever they go, it is a very toxic and dry kind of vibe they bring too. You know, the type that is judgmental and nitpicky but ironically the people are unattractive themselves. Then by 2019 I was noticing mass PUAs at nightclubs and bars that were my favorites, it got cringey. Less and less good looking women were found in places like Mr Purple for example.

Back in the day, the worst you dealt with were rude Jersey people but even then they were solid people. As soon as the Silicon Valley crowd flooded the city, the nightlife died a very slow and painful death.

 

[pikachu]

I hate to be that guy but don't bother. The city is going downhill fast, our richest people are leaving, crime is skyrocketing, bars and nightclubs go out of business left to right, and the ratios are already terrible because dudes years back did what you want to.

Still a million times better than my city. I've been browsing on dating apps. Much better quality and quantity in NYC than here.

 

[Starboy]

Around 2018 is when it got really bad and by 2019 you noticed it. As soon as Google and the tech giants opened up offices in the city, you got an influx of the Silicon Valley crowd. They are not even competition but they kill the vibe wherever they go, it is a very toxic and dry kind of vibe they bring too. You know, the type that is judgmental and nitpicky but ironically the people are unattractive themselves. Then by 2019 I was noticing mass PUAs at nightclubs and bars that were my favorites, it got cringey. Less and less good looking women were found in places like Mr Purple for example.

Back in the day, the worst you dealt with were rude Jersey people but even then they were solid people. As soon as the Silicon Valley crowd flooded the city, the nightlife died a very slow and painful death.

Maybe nightgaming in nyc sucks,but a lot of pretty women are always out during the day. I never went out to bars on my own with the intention of gaming,but even then I always peeped most of the bars I saw in nyc were like sports bars where friend groups always went to chill. But during the day there are always women to be found and there no barriers really except your own fear and anxiety.