losing motivation for the game?

[Swati]

hey guys, have you guys experienced this? Not as excited about gaming anymore? I want to feel the drive for gaming girls and getting validation etc.... something in me just not having the fire like before.

when I was night gaming, half of the time I NEEDED to drink to be more fun and get more motivated to fuck more.

now even if I see "beautiful" girls I'm just numb to the idea of gaming her or going on a date, maybe it's cause I've fucked too much? I don't know

my body adjusting for night game takes time, and once the full-blown night game schedule. I wake up at like 5 pm and feel hazy.

I hope this is a resting period, but it seems to be longer than I assume. It's been a couple of months now.

previously if I saw my wings pushing to approach, that helped tremendously, now I no longer have that them around most of the time.

 

[Chase]

@Swati,

hey guys, have you guys experienced this? Not as excited about gaming anymore? I want to feel the drive for gaming girls and getting validation etc.... something in me just not having the fire like before.

when I was night gaming, half of the time I NEEDED to drink to be more fun and get more motivated to fuck more.

now even if I see "beautiful" girls I'm just numb to the idea of gaming her or going on a date, maybe it's cause I've fucked too much? I don't know

my body adjusting for night game takes time, and once the full-blown night game schedule. I wake up at like 5 pm and feel hazy.

I hope this is a resting period, but it seems to be longer than I assume. It's been a couple of months now.

previously if I saw my wings pushing to approach, that helped tremendously, now I no longer have that them around most of the time.

Most folks go in cycles with motivation.

I have noticed it in my life with all sorts of things. Pickup. Business. Sex drive in general.

I have tried to nail down patterns and figure out some way to just always be consistent, but we are men, and not machines.

You can build good habits that keep you running during the low times. But you kinda just have to ride those out.

There is also a larger, more lasting motivation drop-off once you attain whatever your primary goal in pickup was or has become. For a lot of guys this goal is largely subconscious. You know you've hit it when you get that feeling like, "Shit. I did it. I got to where I needed to get to. I've done what I set out to do here. I can now die happy!"

You can still motivate yourself to keep going after that point, but the kind of hunger you had when you were insecure and had something to prove (be it to yourself, women, or the world) is gone. The good news is your skills are a lot sharper so you can get what you want without having to exert nearly as much effort to get it.

But anyway, here are the best hacks I have found for motivating yourself to pick up:

• Spend 10 minutes a day staring at the asses of women. In particular look for that pronounced hip swing that denotes a woman is highly orgasmic.
  
  
• Strike up casual conversations with girls around you for no reason. Not to game, just to chat. Typically you will fall into old habits pretty fast.
  
  
• Make it a point to pay genuine compliments to people. It's an easy way to provide value, it trains up your eye for interesting/valuable things to compliment on, and it trains up your ability to make excellent compliments and provide more value socially. Plus sooner or later you will find yourself in a conversation with a hot girl who is all gushy and bubbly over your compliment.

The other thing to remember with motivation is you don't go from 0 to 100.

You go from 0 from 10. Then from 10 to 20. Then 20 to 30.

Especially if you have enjoyed those super motivated stretches in the past, you can look back at those when you're under-motivated and say, "Sheesh, how do I get back to THERE again?"

But the key to getting there is to not worry about getting there for now. The key is to worry about getting from 0 mph to 10 mph.

Then once you're at 10 mph you take it up to 20 mph.

It starts going pretty quick after that. Then at some point you're looking around going, "I'm back! How'd I get here? Oh right... it was those little steps I took back when I wasn't motivated. Huh. I'm surprised that worked to get me all the way up here..."

Chase

 

[Swati]

@Swati,



Most folks go in cycles with motivation.

I have noticed it in my life with all sorts of things. Pickup. Business. Sex drive in general.

I have tried to nail down patterns and figure out some way to just always be consistent, but we are men, and not machines.

You can build good habits that keep you running during the low times. But you kinda just have to ride those out.

There is also a larger, more lasting motivation drop-off once you attain whatever your primary goal in pickup was or has become. For a lot of guys this goal is largely subconscious. You know you've hit it when you get that feeling like, "Shit. I did it. I got to where I needed to get to. I've done what I set out to do here. I can now die happy!"

You can still motivate yourself to keep going after that point, but the kind of hunger you had when you were insecure and had something to prove (be it to yourself, women, or the world) is gone. The good news is your skills are a lot sharper so you can get what you want without having to exert nearly as much effort to get it.

But anyway, here are the best hacks I have found for motivating yourself to pick up:

• Spend 10 minutes a day staring at the asses of women. In particular look for that pronounced hip swing that denotes a woman is highly orgasmic.
  
  
• Strike up casual conversations with girls around you for no reason. Not to game, just to chat. Typically you will fall into old habits pretty fast.
  
  
• Make it a point to pay genuine compliments to people. It's an easy way to provide value, it trains up your eye for interesting/valuable things to compliment on, and it trains up your ability to make excellent compliments and provide more value socially. Plus sooner or later you will find yourself in a conversation with a hot girl who is all gushy and bubbly over your compliment.

The other thing to remember with motivation is you don't go from 0 to 100.

You go from 0 from 10. Then from 10 to 20. Then 20 to 30.

Especially if you have enjoyed those super motivated stretches in the past, you can look back at those when you're under-motivated and say, "Sheesh, how do I get back to THERE again?"

But the key to getting there is to not worry about getting there for now. The key is to worry about getting from 0 mph to 10 mph.

Then once you're at 10 mph you take it up to 20 mph.

It starts going pretty quick after that. Then at some point you're looking around going, "I'm back! How'd I get here? Oh right... it was those little steps I took back when I wasn't motivated. Huh. I'm surprised that worked to get me all the way up here..."

Chase

Damn, thanks Chase! you are always coming in clutch putting into words with people's issues.

There is also a larger, more lasting motivation drop-off once you attain whatever your primary goal in pickup was or has become. For a lot of guys this goal is largely subconscious. You know you've hit it when you get that feeling like, "Shit. I did it. I got to where I needed to get to. I've done what I set out to do here. I can now die happy!"

Makes sense, a lot of the long lasting guys are technical addicts, love to dive into the details way more than me, that's their approach to the game, where mine was probably just getting laid more than the average PUA at first LOL

this may sound egotistical. proving to others and myself phase is mostly over....now i need to find Villains to defeat

Just remembered an article mentioning 2 level of mystery by Carousel

Men who have no problems interacting with average women may start self-sabotaging around more desirable women, as they often lack the required reference experiences and confidence to be calm enough to execute the game they’ve otherwise mastered. These problems may be remedied, but most men do not have strong enough incentives to work through these problems in order to reach the next level. Often this is rationalized as more desirable women being “difficult”.

I think I've achieve "good enough" level in my head, I need to find a reach to the next level. TBF I've passed up on pussies cause I valued my semen more than a nut this year,

i need to reconstructed the ego inside. I think to get there I need to rerun the process like before

I have noticed it in my life with all sorts of things. Pickup. Business. Sex drive in general.

Got to live to do both


Thanks a lot Chase!

 

[Skills]

hey guys, have you guys experienced this? Not as excited about gaming anymore? I want to feel the drive for gaming girls and getting validation etc.... something in me just not having the fire like before.

when I was night gaming, half of the time I NEEDED to drink to be more fun and get more motivated to fuck more.

now even if I see "beautiful" girls I'm just numb to the idea of gaming her or going on a date, maybe it's cause I've fucked too much? I don't know

my body adjusting for night game takes time, and once the full-blown night game schedule. I wake up at like 5 pm and feel hazy.

I hope this is a resting period, but it seems to be longer than I assume. It's been a couple of months now.

previously if I saw my wings pushing to approach, that helped tremendously, now I no longer have that them around most of the time.

if is not your testosterone levels (horniness and drive), then it could be indifference.. As chase says sometimes this cycles... And recent break up, or getting rid of girl/girls, hurting a girl, a tough rejection, financial stress periods, family issues, can shift priorities..... for example a lot of my player friends dropping out and doing "biz" i wonder if has to do with the financial uncertainty in some western countries and inflation...

Now sometimes is cope, guys are finding excuses cause bad momentum... (make sure is not cope)

We discuss some here (read answers as well):

Observations - The seduction overdose

At the beginning you dream of getting laid Then you dream of having any girlfriend Then you dream of having a hot girlfriend to show of then you dream of being able to meet a stranger and be able to fuck her on the same day then you dream of having a multiple girls then you dream of having a 3...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[Swati]

if is not your testosterone levels (horniness and drive), then it could be indifference.. As chase says sometimes this cycles... And recent break up, or getting rid of girl/girls, hurting a girl, a tough rejection, financial stress periods, family issues, can shift priorities..... for example a lot of my player friends dropping out and doing "biz" i wonder if has to do with the financial uncertainty in some western countries and inflation...

Now sometimes is cope, guys are finding excuses cause bad momentum... (make sure is not cope)

We discuss some here (read answers as well):

Observations - The seduction overdose

At the beginning you dream of getting laid Then you dream of having any girlfriend Then you dream of having a hot girlfriend to show of then you dream of being able to meet a stranger and be able to fuck her on the same day then you dream of having a multiple girls then you dream of having a 3...

www.skilledseducer.com

Well I went through like 4 breakups last year, 1 ghosted, 1 cheated, 1 kicked out during New years from my flat, and 1 I got kicked out of her flat, lol

so indifference to some level,

bad family situation back home. I've noticed I get mad when average girls give me attitude. All the reasons to avoid them altogether and only approach the prettier ones, which I don't have a problem with.

everything in the Western sphere is insanely expensive now, yeah that's an obvious side of the stress people could be encountering as well. I mostly avoided it and didn't allow it to do too much damage to me, for now.

 

[Skills]

Well I went through like 4 breakups last year, 1 ghosted, 1 cheated, 1 kicked out during New years from my flat, and 1 I got kicked out of her flat, lol

so indifference to some level,

bad family situation back home. I've noticed I get mad when average girls give me attitude. All the reasons to avoid them altogether and only approach the prettier ones, which I don't have a problem with.

everything in the Western sphere is insanely expensive now, yeah that's an obvious side of the stress people could be encountering as well. I mostly avoided it and didn't allow it to do too much damage to me, for now.

Well there you have it,unless you live in ukraine, Thailand if you into asians, sweeden, South of Brazil or some Colombian cities...is autistic to go for only 9s and 10s...you Will get you 6 to 8s rare 9 maybe once a year a 10 this is active gaming... Targeting 10 is cope a sure way of going for long fap streaks... whoever says otherwise a car salesman...or a nice way to cope... There has been posters with the 10 none sense, they had in common, no getting laid...

 

[Swati]

Well there you have it,unless you live in ukraine, Thailand if you into asians, sweeden, South of Brazil or some Colombian cities...is autistic to go for only 9s and 10s...you Will get you 6 to 8s rare 9 maybe once a year a 10 this is active gaming... Targeting 10 is cope a sure way of going for long fap streaks... whoever says otherwise a car salesman...or a nice way to cope... There has been posters with the 10 none sense, they had in common, no getting laid...

well yeah, I'm the only one on this forum who's actually opened about the qualities I fuck. so yeah I get it, just bad momentum/ current state speaking for me.

LOL, anyone who's speaks of the quality too much is not getting that much and just chewing shit in their mouth.

 

[Teevster]

hey guys, have you guys experienced this? Not as excited about gaming anymore? I want to feel the drive for gaming girls and getting validation etc.... something in me just not having the fire like before.

when I was night gaming, half of the time I NEEDED to drink to be more fun and get more motivated to fuck more.

now even if I see "beautiful" girls I'm just numb to the idea of gaming her or going on a date, maybe it's cause I've fucked too much? I don't know

my body adjusting for night game takes time, and once the full-blown night game schedule. I wake up at like 5 pm and feel hazy.

I hope this is a resting period, but it seems to be longer than I assume. It's been a couple of months now.

previously if I saw my wings pushing to approach, that helped tremendously, now I no longer have that them around most of the time.

It comes and go. I am in a similar situation right now.

Can't give you any advises here as this is just a feature of the journey.

Take a small break (as in only go out when you feel like it, and approach only girls you are genuinely curious about) and use the rest of the time to focus on something else.

-Teevster

 

[Teevster]

Well there you have it,unless you live in ukraine, Thailand if you into asians, sweeden, South of Brazil or some Colombian cities...is autistic to go for only 9s and 10s...you Will get you 6 to 8s rare 9 maybe once a year a 10 this is active gaming... Targeting 10 is cope a sure way of going for long fap streaks... whoever says otherwise a car salesman...or a nice way to cope... There has been posters with the 10 none sense, they had in common, no getting laid...

Yeah. And the 7 or 8 can be a better pull than certain 10s. You know cool easy going girl who isn't a 10, or that non-binary woke girl who is a 6 with blue hair, and belly fat who likes to get fucked in the ass, because it makes her identify as a gay man... I mean I'd fuck that over a 9 any day just for the lolz.

Best,
Teevster

 

[Swati]

non-binary woke girl who is a 6 with blue hair, and belly fat who likes to get fucked in the ass

you either pay the tax or they come to collect at some point. So i come to terms with stomaching it when needs be!

It comes and go. I am in a similar situation right now.

Can't give you any advises here as this is just a feature of the journey.

Take a small break (as in only go out when you feel like it, and approach only girls you are genuinely curious about) and use the rest of the time to focus on something else.

-Teevster

yeah I keep thinking about how motivated i was 2022-2023 compared to now ..... ehhhh, got to say tho, the barrier to approach/hooking/dating higher quality has gotten better no doubt.

thanks for the feedback playa

 

[Bill]

Just follow nature testosterone increasing methods and do nofap. Simple but works.

 

[Skills]

@Swati can you clarify "waking up at 5 pm" what ate you talking about? If club coses at 2 am you will wake up around 10 am if club closes 4 to 5 am you Will wake up around 12 pm ..even if you bang and do all nighter then yes sometimes that could happen if she sleeps over and You do breakfast and second rounds but unusual

 

[Swati]

@Swati can you clarify "waking up at 5 pm" what ate you talking about? If club coses at 2 am you will wake up around 10 am if club closes 4 to 5 am you Will wake up around 12 pm ..even if you bang and do all nighter then yes sometimes that could happen if she sleeps over and You do breakfast and second rounds but unusual

when I need to I adjust to sleeping late and waking up late for the sake of the game. I don't function by the club's schedule. sometimes I'd drink coffee, alcohol, etc, or have my wing debriefing too long. I get back around 4-5 am then I sleep a bit later.

If you are going to bed at 2am you aren't really getting too much out of it just based on that schedule only, also you didn't account for "street night game" during closing hours which is 45min or so.

The 5 pm wake-up time was during a time when I was living at a different place with clubs closing at 6 am, I was not in momentum, pushing it to the bitter end, then going to eat with people getting back at like 8 am then going to sleep. those times were horrible for my body. it's not abnormal or unheard of.

2am is a normal city club closing time, a lot of the clubs close at 3-5am

 

[Skills]

when I need to I adjust to sleeping late and waking up late for the sake of the game. I don't function by the club's schedule. sometimes I'd drink coffee, alcohol, etc, or have my wing debriefing too long. I get back around 4-5 am then I sleep a bit later.

If you are going to bed at 2am you aren't really getting too much out of it just based on that schedule only, also you didn't account for "street night game" during closing hours which is 45min or so.

The 5 pm wake-up time was during a time when I was living at a different place with clubs closing at 6 am, I was not in momentum, pushing it to the bitter end, then going to eat with people getting back at like 8 am then going to sleep. those times were horrible for my body. it's not abnormal or unheard of.

2am is a normal city club closing time, a lot of the clubs close at 3-5am

I don't know were you are geographically located so i included 2 am clubs...you have your answer no debriefing, do it some other time over the phone or chat or tell him to stop rambling, dont eat after or go hpme and have high protein quick snack... again, no need to wake up that late, also make sure you are working out that jelp with endurance....nobody goes harder than me since i do dancefloor and o do all the things you mentioned... My point is try to find a more optimal way... Waking up at 5 pm horrible and no sustainable...

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