It's a very scary trend that will bear very bad consequences to the world.
I find it very interesting cause I love social studies and thinking what would happen and why it happened when it comes to human behaviour.
I know that this won't effect the seducers and guys like Chase and most of us here. But I believe it will have and interesting effect on the world and society as a whole.
I'll explain the idea and give my ideas as to why this is happening.
The idea
I had never heard about this but the last few days I noticed it a lot on YouTube and other blogs.
From what I understand MGTOW is a movement/belief system of men that says:
- you don't need a woman or relationship to be happy
- your worth as a man is not defined by how many women you've slept with or haven't slept with
- you don't need anyones approval to be a man
- also the complete rejection of marriage, it's suicide for a man since you have over 50% of divorce and you lose half your money, house, dignity and pay alimony.I haven't heard of much men who weren't devastated by a divorce. I even read the story about the Russian billionaire who had to pay 4.5 BILLION $ to his wife for the privilege to have been married to her(she wasn't even that attractive tbh).
Basically the idea is that you don't need women. You want women and have desires towards them but you don't need them.
Some have gone to the extreme to become ghosts, meaning complete rejection of women and sexuality. Not even looking at women and only masturbating.
The scary part is that those men completely fall off society. More and more men drop out of high school, never go to university, never find a job and live with their parens or collect unemployment. They have no ambition.
In Japan it's going very bad. There those men are calller herbivore men. The studies show that 25% of all men despise sex and women and would never have sex. Things are so bad that all predictions and expectations and experts say that Japans population (that is now 127 million people) will drop to 47-48 million people till the year 2100. Imagine what would happen to their economy when the workforce drops from 60 million employed in 2014 to 22 million (or less) till 2100.
Those men have realised that if they don't marry and don't have children, they don't need much money. They spend all day playing video games, watching TV, movies, anime, reading books, watching porn.
So what is happening that more and more men are losing interest in women whatever. I read lots of articles about men in universities in the US that are to scared to even look at a girl, because of fear of harassment or rape accusations. They say their career is more important than sex and being fired or expelled for trying to talk to a girl.
Why is this happening?
- men are raised to not be men in todays society. Everything that is manly is frowned upon in school(fighting and rough housing is considered bad), the workplace. Countries like Sweden even make it illegal to pee siting up. They remove urinals and force men to sit while peeing, because in the sweeds words "peeing sitting up is violent, degrading to women and promotes men to become rapists", They remove gender roles so they make boys wear pink dresses and play with Barbie dolls. There are no male role models for growing boys, that teach you that being a man means going for what you want in life and not giving up, be it sex with a girl or a great job.
- men are taught not to talk to women. The cases like Julien Blank that taught men how to talk to women was labeled rapist because he taught men to be confident. Another YouTube guy was named rapist and banned because he made a video where he pinched girl butts.. The YesMeanYes laws in the US make every man a rapist because how many times you've had sex where you had to ask the girl every 5 minutes if she wanted the sex to happen and continue happening.
- marriage equals suicide for man. You lose everything in a divorce: your house, your money, you pay alimony, you lose your kids.
- there is soo much stimulation that didn't exist for out fathers like: thousand of TV channels, millions of movies, video games, porn, internet so men can go without women and still be stimulated in a way.
I believe that guys like us even Chase and the others share a lot in common with those guys. As we don't need women, we want them but not need them. And I believe that a lot of the guys here are against getting married. Where we differ is that we don't reject women and sex like the guys in Japan.
The consequences
When men lose complete interest in women like the herbivore men in Japan and the MGTOW in the west, they lose ambition. Because if you admit it or not men want a high paying job to attract women, they strive to be a good provide. But once that has gone, those men stop studying and working. They stay home and play games and watch porn.
As much as we believe in equal rights, a male and female brain is different. A big difference is that men's brains are wired to be risk takes (you needed to take constant risks to kill a bear and bring meat back to the cave) and women are wired to stay away from risks (not getting killed and gathering berries).
This is why women are good at managerial positions. But also why 99% of companies are started by men and 98% of inventions were made by men. There are very few companies and products started by women (mostly cosmetics and clothing). Everything else like electricity, the internet, cars, planes, computers, phones was created by men.
So it is dangerous when men stop striving for success and stop innovating. Yes there still will be men who do those things for now. But this movement continues growing and more and more men drop off from society every year.
One other thing is that men are the workhorses - they work in the labour intensive jobs in the mines, in the petrol stations, in construction,sewer creaning, police and military, every job that requires strength and is risky. I wonder who will work those jobs when in 20-30 the current workers retire and the men who are left are all playing with Barbie dolls and talk about "their feelings".
Even Stephen Hawking has said that it isn't very likely for humanity to survive more than a few hundred years if we even reach the year 2100.
I honestly see this movement growing very big in 2015 and 2016. I also believe that this will keep growing faster with every year. Since there are hundreds of million of men who can't get a girl, who are frustrated by it and a lot of them even hate women.
What do you think on the subject?
- X
I find it very interesting cause I love social studies and thinking what would happen and why it happened when it comes to human behaviour.
I know that this won't effect the seducers and guys like Chase and most of us here. But I believe it will have and interesting effect on the world and society as a whole.
I'll explain the idea and give my ideas as to why this is happening.
The idea
I had never heard about this but the last few days I noticed it a lot on YouTube and other blogs.
From what I understand MGTOW is a movement/belief system of men that says:
- you don't need a woman or relationship to be happy
- your worth as a man is not defined by how many women you've slept with or haven't slept with
- you don't need anyones approval to be a man
- also the complete rejection of marriage, it's suicide for a man since you have over 50% of divorce and you lose half your money, house, dignity and pay alimony.I haven't heard of much men who weren't devastated by a divorce. I even read the story about the Russian billionaire who had to pay 4.5 BILLION $ to his wife for the privilege to have been married to her(she wasn't even that attractive tbh).
Basically the idea is that you don't need women. You want women and have desires towards them but you don't need them.
Some have gone to the extreme to become ghosts, meaning complete rejection of women and sexuality. Not even looking at women and only masturbating.
The scary part is that those men completely fall off society. More and more men drop out of high school, never go to university, never find a job and live with their parens or collect unemployment. They have no ambition.
In Japan it's going very bad. There those men are calller herbivore men. The studies show that 25% of all men despise sex and women and would never have sex. Things are so bad that all predictions and expectations and experts say that Japans population (that is now 127 million people) will drop to 47-48 million people till the year 2100. Imagine what would happen to their economy when the workforce drops from 60 million employed in 2014 to 22 million (or less) till 2100.
Those men have realised that if they don't marry and don't have children, they don't need much money. They spend all day playing video games, watching TV, movies, anime, reading books, watching porn.
So what is happening that more and more men are losing interest in women whatever. I read lots of articles about men in universities in the US that are to scared to even look at a girl, because of fear of harassment or rape accusations. They say their career is more important than sex and being fired or expelled for trying to talk to a girl.
Why is this happening?
- men are raised to not be men in todays society. Everything that is manly is frowned upon in school(fighting and rough housing is considered bad), the workplace. Countries like Sweden even make it illegal to pee siting up. They remove urinals and force men to sit while peeing, because in the sweeds words "peeing sitting up is violent, degrading to women and promotes men to become rapists", They remove gender roles so they make boys wear pink dresses and play with Barbie dolls. There are no male role models for growing boys, that teach you that being a man means going for what you want in life and not giving up, be it sex with a girl or a great job.
- men are taught not to talk to women. The cases like Julien Blank that taught men how to talk to women was labeled rapist because he taught men to be confident. Another YouTube guy was named rapist and banned because he made a video where he pinched girl butts.. The YesMeanYes laws in the US make every man a rapist because how many times you've had sex where you had to ask the girl every 5 minutes if she wanted the sex to happen and continue happening.
- marriage equals suicide for man. You lose everything in a divorce: your house, your money, you pay alimony, you lose your kids.
- there is soo much stimulation that didn't exist for out fathers like: thousand of TV channels, millions of movies, video games, porn, internet so men can go without women and still be stimulated in a way.
I believe that guys like us even Chase and the others share a lot in common with those guys. As we don't need women, we want them but not need them. And I believe that a lot of the guys here are against getting married. Where we differ is that we don't reject women and sex like the guys in Japan.
The consequences
When men lose complete interest in women like the herbivore men in Japan and the MGTOW in the west, they lose ambition. Because if you admit it or not men want a high paying job to attract women, they strive to be a good provide. But once that has gone, those men stop studying and working. They stay home and play games and watch porn.
As much as we believe in equal rights, a male and female brain is different. A big difference is that men's brains are wired to be risk takes (you needed to take constant risks to kill a bear and bring meat back to the cave) and women are wired to stay away from risks (not getting killed and gathering berries).
This is why women are good at managerial positions. But also why 99% of companies are started by men and 98% of inventions were made by men. There are very few companies and products started by women (mostly cosmetics and clothing). Everything else like electricity, the internet, cars, planes, computers, phones was created by men.
So it is dangerous when men stop striving for success and stop innovating. Yes there still will be men who do those things for now. But this movement continues growing and more and more men drop off from society every year.
One other thing is that men are the workhorses - they work in the labour intensive jobs in the mines, in the petrol stations, in construction,sewer creaning, police and military, every job that requires strength and is risky. I wonder who will work those jobs when in 20-30 the current workers retire and the men who are left are all playing with Barbie dolls and talk about "their feelings".
Even Stephen Hawking has said that it isn't very likely for humanity to survive more than a few hundred years if we even reach the year 2100.
I honestly see this movement growing very big in 2015 and 2016. I also believe that this will keep growing faster with every year. Since there are hundreds of million of men who can't get a girl, who are frustrated by it and a lot of them even hate women.
What do you think on the subject?
- X
