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Space Monkey
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About Me:

Late 20's, 6'2" brown dude, lifter's build. I have tattoos and am into the arts and music. I'm making a career change into tech. I live in the Bay Area, California.

I will use this journal to try new things, track progress, reflect and experiment.
 

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Space Monkey
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Two weeks ago I arrived back in the Bay Area after 6 months away.

Men all over the internet complain about the dating game in the Bay Area. Bad gender ratios, poor attitudes, angry feminists, overdependence on dating apps, these are all purported factors that lead to an unbalanced dating environment that heavily disfavors men in their dating efforts.

Based on early returns I don't really believe any of that shit. I've spent the last week hitting the apps. I got about 60 matches total and scheduled dates with 6 girls between this week and next week. Either I am on a hot streak on the apps that won't sustain, or all the talk about the Bay Area being the toughest dating market is hot air.

I will also work on IRL game and that's the primary focus of this journal, but if apps are a good use of my time I'll continue to use them.
 

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Date Notes - Wed
[transcribed from cellphone ramble]
The girl was from an app. We met at a bar.

She was pretty, prettier than I thought from her pictures. In pictures she was cute, but in person she was straight-up tall and pretty. Thin with big eyes, nice lips, curly dark hair.

This was my first date in a while and I was horrifically out of practice. Conversation was ok but stunted due to my inability to lead. I defaulted to too much buddy-buddy platonic behaviors; I'd laugh a bit too hard at her jokes. The little kind of try-hard things I'd do when I was getting zero attention from girls, I reverted back to. Too much forced rapport-seeking, seeking commonalities, and I gave her too many compliments about the life she was leading. Body-wise, we were both at the bar. I was facing the bar and her whole body was facing me. Our legs touched a lot, and she never drew back.

The simple fact is that we over-talked. We spent 2 hours at the first bar chat-chat-chatting about this and that. On reflection it was physically exhausting talking so much and I was a little drained. The only physical thing happening was our legs touching beneath the bar occasionally, but I failed to escalate on that. I wanted to. I wanted to grab her hair and pull her in for a kiss but I bitched out.

I think she was into me the first hour. She was asking me lots of questions about my plans---she said that she planned to stay in the area for the next year, was I going to be around for the same timeframe? I said yeah probably. I missed escalation windows and have difficulty spotting them in the first place because it's been ages since my last date. I asked if she had to be up early the next day, and she said no.

After two hours at the first bar, I asked if she wanted to go to another. On the 3-minute walk from the first bar to the second, some kind of lightswitch seemed to go off in her, and she seemed to suddenly stop liking me.

At the second bar, I bought us both drinks (we split the bill at the first bar). [The bartender was wonderful. She whispered to me, "I made hers a little stronger" and winked at me. I'm going back and overtipping that wonderful lady whenever she's there.] We got our drinks and sat at a booth. I sat first and she sat across from me (BAAAD). We got into very dark subjects; painful familial histories and genocide. Legit genocide, I was talking about genocide at a first date because I couldn't lead for shit. Fuck. After about

--- INTERRUPTION ---

Girl texted me for potential booty call, will continue ramble later
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

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[continued]

Nvm, can't go on booty call, I have far too much to do tomorrow starting at 8am. Fuck. I need to see this girl because we clearly dig each other. Just texted her I want to see her tomorrow.

Anyway. At the 2nd bar we talked about dark shit and she got colder and colder towards me. And as she got colder, I got warmer (chasing her). She really suddenly got very cold and distant after I came back from the bathroom. She said she had to leave.

I walked her to her car, she ran ahead to it and got in-- probably to prevent a goodnight kiss. She said I should text her when I got home. I did, no response. Texted a Hail Mary "Hey" two days later, no response to that either.

Reflection
I moved too slow and lost out. I didn't lead. I didn't make moves, and so the entropy took the date where it wanted to go-- into a literal discussion about genocides.

After browsing the Girls-Chase articles I found the one about Escalation WIndows and Auto-Rejection. It's exactly what happened. That's why I'm a subscribing member to GC, it's the only place on the internet where subtle things like AutoRejection are identified and analyzed.

Ah, this sounds like something that used to plague me all the time when I was starting out. It feels super-confusing when it happens to you, too – why on Earth would a girl who really, really liked you one night suddenly pull a complete 180 and be cold to you the next time you saw her? It’s bizarre and mystifying to us, because as men we don’t act that way. Either we like a girl, or we don’t like her. We don’t really, really like her, and then suddenly we hate her guts and treat her like a leper. It does not compute with us.

What causes this reaction in women, though, is in fact the making of the most painful mistake you can realize you’ve made in seduction – having a girl who wanted you but with whom you missed the window to bed her in.

When attainability drops too low – when a girl reaches a point where she feels like she just can’t get what she wants with you – she’ll go into something called auto-rejection, or self-rejection, which is where she, sensing that you don’t want her and won’t give her what she wants, will reject you first to prevent you rejecting her and her suffering that blow to her ego that accompanies rejection.

We spent two hours exhaustively talking at the first place, nothing happened because I didn't move fast enough, and she went into Auto-Rejection mode.

Takeaways: review all the GC articles on moving faster, LEARN, and with future prospects MOVE FASTER.
 

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Sunday Update
I'm seeing 2 girls from apps tomorrow. 2 others who are more clearly into hookups will let me know what works with their schedule. 2 have said that next weekend is best.

I have yet to do my first approach. Will start working on that too this week.
 

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Date Report - Rhonda
Girl from Apps

I reviewed GirlsChase articles all day yesterday between chores and errands, thinking about how I would do this date differently than I did the last one. I wanted to focus on being calm, less spastic, less 'excitable', and I wanted to try a bit of 'Deep Diving' -- not only because it's part of the GC mindset but because I'm an adherent of Jordan Peterson's '12 Rules for Life', one of which is "Assume the Person You're Talking to Knows Things You Don't."

My primary takeaway from Chase's articles was that it was my job on the date to make a girl feel comfortable, calm, and well-understood. Given that she would not feel comfortable expressing her sexuality until that happened, I made it my primary focus not to 'attract her' or to 'game her'. But just to get her comfortable and, I suppose, let my fundamentals do the talking.

I met this girl at a bar about 40 minutes from my house, and 5 minutes from hers. Once again, I thought my internet date was prettier than her pics. She was ok in pics, but in person she was a petite brunette with big eyes and a nice body.

We sat at the bar, I ordered a Jack and Coke and asked her what she wanted while tossing a 20 on the counter. I wonder now if the simplified, nonchalant act of tossing cash on the counter helped me take the lead and moved things along, in that the girl no longer had to tire herself with 'Do I pay? Does he pay? Is he poor?'' etc. On my previous date I made zero effort to pay for the girl at the first place, she just took out her wallet herself.

Well we talked for an hour, and I legitimately found her interesting, and the feeling was mutual. Once again our legs were touching underneath the bar.

After bitching out on making a move last time, I set an alarm on my phone--it would ring an hour into the date and that was when I had to try to kiss her. When it did go off she laughed and was like, "Why the fuck do you have an alarm going off at 9PM? That your bedtime?"

I waited about ten minutes until after the make-a-move alarm before deciding to go for it. She was rambling away about work, and meanwhile my dumb heart was pounding and I was getting flushed with stress. I chewed up some ice from my drink. Then I faced her, put my hand on her neck, and dragged her in for a kiss. She was into it, but nervous about the other people at the bar watching. We talked, held hands, and kissed for awhile at the bar. She was not too excited about kissing in front of other people; come to think of it, we were probably making a scene. So I told her we should go sit at a booth for some privacy.

We moved to a booth; she tried to sit across from me, I made her sit next to me. We spent the next hour in the bar alternating making out, talking, joking, holding hands. She had to leave because she had work the next day and I offered to walk her to her car. As soon as she go to her door I told her, 'wait, meet me in the backseat, just for a few minutes'.

We were back there kissing, cuddling, and petting each other for about a half hour. I pulled her hair, choked her, rubbed her ass, rubbed her crotch over her jeans. I really enjoyed choking that nice lady.

It was getting late, so I let her go.

I got to my car and checked my texts; another girl -- "Eliza" -- had hit me up, texting that she had alcohol. I began driving over to her city thinking, 'Oh shit, am I going to kiss two girls the same night, and maybe bone one?'

Just as my pride was swelling over the piece of shit I was becoming, she texted again to say she was almost asleep, let's hang another time. So instead I went to a burger place and ate up, then went home.

Positive Takeaways
-I was more aggressive than the last date. Made the move from platonically chatting away, to making out at the bar.
-I was more persistent than the last date. When dropping her off at her car, I made her meet me in the backseat for more time alone.
-I was calmer this time. Wasn't spastically laughing my head off at her jokes and being an overexcited twat, stoked to for once be on a date.
-I was kindof getting gnawed at about the girl from Wednesday's date, which went poorly. But after this one I immediately forgot about her.

Other Takeaways
-In the future I'd like to work more on my calmness, aggressiveness, and my ability to lead on dates. This is what made this date awesome.

The fundamentals pulled her in, not game. She was rubbing my arms and chest the whole night---all the drop sets paid off. She said she was turned on by my tattoos, my buff-ass arms, my body. It took several months of hard work at the gym to get to the good level of muscularity I've got going right now. The tattoos I was born with.

Other prospects
A few more from the apps. Working on scheduling them for this week.
 

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Annoyed at my general lack of productivity since I started with the apps. I'm winding down my efforts in this arena to better concentrate on my other pursuits.

I'm instituting new policies that will restore my ability to focus:
1. Only check apps twice a day, at 9AM and 9PM. Otherwise they are uninstalled and off my phone.
2. Keep phone off all day before 8PM. I'll check it only on at noon, 4PM, and 8PM in case any girls texted me and wants to meet up.
3. Work on two girls at a time. Six was too much, and after getting physical with one I lost interest in most of them.
 

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Date tomorrow with "Patricia" -- another girl from the internet. We were supposed to go out sooner but schedules didn't align.

My plan for tomorrow:
-Have a solid productive day
-Meditate before the date
-Be calm and collected throughout
-Review GirlsChase materials on calmness, moving faster, decisiveness, touching
-Clean out car before date so maybe we can fool around in the backseat
-Stay at 1st bar for one hour. Make incidental contact under bar. 1st drink will be something light, like beer.Then ask her to another one within walking distance.
-While there, order drinks, get a booth and make a move
-Move to my car, and the backseat

Of course, if she doesn't like me I won't push anything. I'm not up for more than making out and heavy petting since my own place is 40 minutes away, and I'm not yet at the level where I can just go home with a girl immediately.
 

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Date Notes - Patricia
Girl from Tinder

Met at first bar. I had a Guinness while waiting for her. She came a bit late, a thin and pretty blond girl with big eyes (kind of looked like a young Kristen Wiig), and we both got Mezcal. Conversation was good, getting to know you type of stuff. I tried to keep in mind Deep Diving but only partially succeeded in integrating it into our conversation. Moved to a second bar an hour in; ordered two drinks there. I made my move and kissed her while we sat; we kissed a couple times but she kept her mouth closed and otherwise leaned away. She bought two more drinks and we sat longer. Then we left--at this point I was hosed and all plans had gone out the window. We went to a third bar and had two more drinks (Now I was 5 in). She got into a heated discussion with some guy there, yelled at a bartender. We ended up talking a bit in the bathroom about private, painful shit--she asked 'What do you want from me?' We left and I drove her home. She said I could stay till I sobered up. We got in bed, she wouldn't let me do anything. I tried to kiss her and she said something crabby, so I left. Unmatched her and blocked her number.

On the outset it seems like I wasted six or so hours with a chick didn't fuck me. But I'm learning from the experience. On reflection I am glad nothing happened; she had a long history of drug use, selling drugs, and got really belligerent and uncontrollable with people when she was drunk. She was also very hot and cold on the date, and would go from being into me and initiating physical contact to getting upset almost at random. The indication is that the poor girl has had a rough life. I also got the impression that while she was partially into me, she's been ghosted and hurt so many times from dudes from Tinder that she doesn't trust herself now to let go and be in the moment with them.

While I do want pussy, I do not want cynical, crazy pussy.

Positives
-I took the lead and moved us from first bar to second bar in the first hour
-I made my move in the first hour. It was less nerve-racking to kiss her than the date I had a few days ago. A good sign that I'm getting bolder due to my experience.
-Conversation was alright, but I need to lead and learn more about Deep Diving before my next date
-I did go home with her

Negatives
-I drank too much again. Should have limited it to two drinks total for the night. Instead I had like six. (Besides dates and social gatherings, I don't drink.)
-Lost composure, calm, and planning due to overdrinking
-Talked again about private painful shit. When a girl goes there I need to figure out how to lead her out of that dark mood rather than joining her in it.
-I am annoyed at myself for wasting four hours between the third bar and at her place. I should have figured out she wasn't into me enough to fuck me. In the future I will need to discern at the 2-hour mark if we should continue or just call it a night.

Takeaways
On future dates I want to:
-Have a plan and stick to it.
-Drink minimally.
-Make my move and physically escalate quickly, to figure out if we have physical chemistry
-Kiss her at the 1-hour mark, and try to fuck her at the 2.5-hour mark. If neither succeeds I'll bounce, I hate wasting time on girls when I have a lot of shit to do

Part of the date went poorly because she was nutso. I didn't get laid. But on the whole it was a good learning experience and I'm going to consider it when planning out what I'll do on future dates.

Break on internet dates because I'll be traveling heavily over the next 2 weeks. I'll update with approaches I do on my travels.
 

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Update:

I've been regularly seeing a girl the last few weeks from my social circle. We dig each other. I am moving away at the end of the month so I'm just enjoying it and seeing where it goes, while also concentrating on my work.

I can't overstate how much happier I am with the process of dating a girl from a social circle versus trying to tag cynical Tinder bitches who ghost on a dime.

I still have a lot of work to do on my fundamentals, vibe, body language, flirting, all of it. I've got to drop 10 lbs and grow out my hair, up my cardio and fix up my diet.

Over the past few years I got too deep into Red Pill / Rollo Tomassi / MGTOW shit and it soured me on the opposite sex. I will have to return to 'game' shit when I leave this city -- but for now I'm really enjoying having positive interactions with this girl and it's improved my outlook.
 

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Single again and back in California.

I'm putting this journal on hiatus because I've gotta go Monk Mode for awhile to shore up my fundamentals. I have to concentrate on some projects, hit the gym hard, drop some weight.
 
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