My game is better when I'm drunk...How to fix

[barneystin]

So I recently made an interesting observation from all the night game outings I've had over the past couple of months. I initially did night game fully sober because I thought it would be better for learning and consistency. Recently, I've experimented with getting drunk while going out and my game seems to be a lot better. I'm specifically referring to the opening/hooking phase and getting that social momentum. I struggle so much with hooking when I'm sober but after a couple of drinks, this issue goes away ENTIRELY. I'm always surprised at how much better I get at banter and making fun interesting conversation when I'm drunk.

I'm even contemplating recording my drunk conversations so I can study them to see what I do differently. My goal is to reach the same/close to the same level of effectiveness while sober. Has anyone experienced something similar?

 

[TomInHo]

Don't think you're better drunk because of what you say

Meaning you probably come across more relaxed while buzzed compared to being sober. So recording conversations may not be very insightful in the content but rather your vibe

I mean if having a drink or 2 makes you want to socialize more and puts you in the mood, I see no harm in drinking

 

[Skills]

Drinking increase my desire to open and want to pull, have sex and etc. If I'm not drinking sometime I just don't feel like doing shit. personally 1-3 drinks a week isn't horrible. Sober game is just a bit weird personally.

The never drinking type of dudes I've seen were robotic and sucks. some of the veteran OGs night gamers always tend to be in limbo of getting drunk and reach epiphany "NEVER DRINIkNG AGAIN"

none sense... Some people actually have real confidence and real charisama... brah... total cope

 

[Skills]

So I recently made an interesting observation from all the night game outings I've had over the past couple of months. I initially did night game fully sober because I thought it would be better for learning and consistency. Recently, I've experimented with getting drunk while going out and my game seems to be a lot better. I'm specifically referring to the opening/hooking phase and getting that social momentum. I struggle so much with hooking when I'm sober but after a couple of drinks, this issue goes away ENTIRELY. I'm always surprised at how much better I get at banter and making fun interesting conversation when I'm drunk.

I'm even contemplating recording my drunk conversations so I can study them to see what I do differently. My goal is to reach the same/close to the same level of effectiveness while sober. Has anyone experienced something similar?

Did you get laid while drunk??

 

[barneystin]

Did you get laid while drunk??

Yeahh

 

[Skills]

Yeahh

I seen guys that are good when for example my wing cash, Julien used for a while to get drunk and jeffy and others...... Reliance on alcohol for me is not something i think is optimal, cause of many reasons:

-I personally would lose lays (i gotten so many lays by being the sober person driving)
- I would be affected if i would like to go out multiple nights ( ex. thursday, friday and saturday)
-would be affected if i have to workout next day, or clients, or work...
-would affect my shape (drinks have too many calories)
- would be reliant on alcohol (without alcohol you won't be able to game)
- this is kj but they say it can affect sexual performance..
-expensive (if you want to go out a lot)

I can go on and on.... You just need a lot of reps sober, even if your game sucks, till you improve gradually sober, reps and reps... No short cuts.... Second, you need to give yourself a pass for the first 2 hours of the night don't count mentality.... Have some type of warm up venue or warm up part of the club, then go to another venue or another part of the club..... Prior to all this do aa drills during day game.... warm up talking shit to a body or wing on purpose.... if you dance dancing will get the endorphins going...

but bottom line a lot of rep sober and being comfortable being sober... if you have to tape your outings drunk comparing them with sober is ok...

For me personally reliance on alcohol and drugs is cope, but is my personal opinion... I personally get ask "what are you on" in person and even in cyber chats, when i join a new chat that people don't know me they think i am actually on drugs.... There are many guys that game sober, dww, me, tyler rsd, style, cajun etc.... i can name drop all day... and there are also a lot of gamers that relied on alcohol and went sober julien, jeffy, etc......

bottom line reps, and reps and reps...

Alcohol and drugs when dealing with approach anxiety in clubs

If you are still relying on alcohol and drugs to pick up women then you have to start fresh from zero working on your approach anxiety.

www.theskillsmethod.com

 

[isildur1]

@Skills already said everything

when i was transitioning from night game to daygame in 2014 it really hit me how much i relied on alcohol for confidence- it was incredibly sad looking back but i barely had any social experience sober

the more your game improves when sober the better it will be for your health overall - i found my testosterone also increased after i cut alcohol out of my life.

Just start slow make small goals like one compliment for a girl on the street sober one week the next week two then transition to conversations - also there are things that can help reduce your anxiety like meditation , infrared sauna use , exercise - do these pre - approach you may find your interactions to be better.

 

[barneystin]

Just start slow make small goals like one compliment for a girl on the street sober one week the next week two then transition to conversations - also there are things that can help reduce your anxiety like meditation , infrared sauna use , exercise - do these pre - approach you may find your interactions to be better.

I can definitely handle the initial parts of conversation like compliment openers and introductions. I just run out of things to say after that and this rarely happens after I’m drunk. When I’m drunk, I usually feel more present and I’m able to make more interesting cold reads and interesting conversations. I also become really outcome independent

But this flips when I’m night gaming sober, except I’m in a really good mood. It’s like I filter my thoughts and I’m stuck in my head. I’ve gotten a lot of reps but I still can’t get past this hurdle

 

[isildur1]

I can definitely handle the initial parts of conversation like compliment openers and introductions. I just run out of things to say after that and this rarely happens after I’m drunk. When I’m drunk, I usually feel more present and I’m able to make more interesting cold reads and interesting conversations. I also become really outcome independent

But this flips when I’m night gaming sober, except I’m in a really good mood. It’s like I filter my thoughts and I’m stuck in my head. I’ve gotten a lot of reps but I still can’t get past this hurdle

Meditation can help alot - usually a lot of trial and error after that , it took me a while as cold approach requires more maturity and patience with hooking than night approaching .

The transition can be tough- some basic shit like making guesses about her “you look like a science student.” Might be good to try and make prolonged conversation

it took 6-12 months of consistent daygaming to get used to the process of hooking conversations with sober people - the more interests hobbies and travel you do the more life experience you have it becomes far easier to make that connection

I no longer drink now and only do sober approaching - I found going through this although it hurt a lot at the beginning was great long term as I’m now no longer reliant on alcohol . You need to push through the discomfort and as skills said without emerging deeply into more sober approaching it will be difficult to make the problem go away without consistent practice

 

[isildur1]

Also whilst I did manage to get laid a couple of times while drinking in clubs the alcohol was fucking up other parts in my life - it was causing decreased testosterone and ED plus it was absolutely wrecking my sleep which was having a detrimental effect on my studies and causing me to lose muscle mass. There’s definitely a cost to alcohol way beyond just hangovers also a lot of alcohol most notably beer feminises men and may Cause weight gain .

I found my sex improved a lot when I completely cut alcohol from my life as well as my sleep quality in many ways daygame was a precursor to this as I released shit sleep quality and a hungover brain was ruining my daygame interactions

This isn’t meant to come across as some “I quit alcohol look how cool I am “ post btw just stating the impact it had on me personally