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I made a post on how to properly go into an ltr (though nobody really follows the advice a waste of my time)....Dating a guy like me is pretty much BRUTAL..... It is tough to be in a relationship with a dude that breath, eats and shit seduction.... My life is pretty much seduction, I go clubbing ALONE, minimum once a week and max 3 times a week, I am constantly bombarded by texts and calls from women, I am constantly making videos and post and interacting win forums/chat etc.... (though this has slow down in recent years) still, no progression, multiple women etc.... You guys get the picture, so back to the topic why is the hoc is one of my biggest epiphanies when it comes to screening, for many reasons based on multiple women that i have dated with hoc and no hoc, so let me tell you the difference IN MY EXPERIENCE:
- women with no hoc are no shady and barely if ever lie.
- With women with no hoc you don't have to worry about her going out, her traveling, you traveling...
- you can be more outcome independent with this women without being stress and worry...
-During the rough times and during autorejection and checking out stages you don't have to worry or be stress about her banging other dudes or messing with other dudes...
- During checking out, autorejection, break up they are not revengeful, spiteful etc....
I am not going to go over the hoc girls cause is just the opposite of what i wrote above....^
Now i am going to address all the constant objections that i have heard from people trying to debunk my theory:
- "Who cares about all that shit I just move on?" This sounds good in text and is right advice, but do you rather move on and deal with break up in a smooth, easy manner or in a more painful, hurtful manner.... Also, this are women you made main, or you fell in love with this are not fuck buddies.... My point is, it is way easier to move on from a smooth break up than from a painful break up specially when as you trying to move on you know she is fucking other dudes... In other words the move on stages is way easier when you don't have to deal with being cuck.
- "who cares i am poly?" what does this has to do with anything, when you are poly and she is your "main" you instinctively know that she is not going to exercise as a main the poly pass (which is true and i agree with this), but again do you rather a main that will just move on smoothly or one that will show or those negatives i mentioned previously.... There is a huge different with mains of no hoc and mains with hoc, huge.... I AM NOT TALKING FRIENDS WITH BENEFITS OF MULTIPLE LONG TERM RELATIONSHIPS.... I am talking open long term relationships, mains, girlfriends, wives. (women you love and are pair bonded with poly or not make no difference will hurt the fucking same)
- " I just care about how the girl treats me, i don't give a fuck about hoc".--- This is one of the dumbest objections i have ever heard, no shit! Being treated well is part of the fucking screening that is why she is main i hope, and has nothing to do with nothing... Hoc has nothing to do with how you being treated is an addition on how you been treated..... So again a girl that will treat you well (common fucking sense) and no hoc will be superior to girl that will treat you well and hoc...
- "i know a mormon that had a girl that was a mormon and had no hoc and did a 3 some with some couple".- I hope you already catch the issue is normie mormon, not a fucking seducer that went into a relationship I bet a million dollars in the way i posted in the link on how to enter into a proper relationship or give main status.... guarantee.... Most of the times is dudes that mention what they are looking for or bluff and the girl molds to his desires to get him and take him of the market.....Funnily enough more of the red pillers are the dumbest ones that fall into that trap.
-"I picked my girlfriend cause she was hot and then i realized she had no hoc after I bang her". So you cut corners, got lazy, did not screen and just got lucky... Good for you.... Has nothing to do with nothing.....
^ This is shit i keep hearing over and over from actual seducers just lol, again, guys this is not me kj this is actual experience of me dating long term girls with no hoc and hoc in all type of set ups..... Hopefully, some of you will actually listen to me and you will realize that is a HUGE PART of screening..... HUGE.... For me any other matrix is silly like "no tats" "meeting them in day game" "lay count" and the other none sense is silly.... No hoc is huge..... If not you guys can go ahead and ltr and hoc girls and a no hoc girls, be my guest and see the difference for yourself... but why?
- women with no hoc are no shady and barely if ever lie.
- With women with no hoc you don't have to worry about her going out, her traveling, you traveling...
- you can be more outcome independent with this women without being stress and worry...
-During the rough times and during autorejection and checking out stages you don't have to worry or be stress about her banging other dudes or messing with other dudes...
- During checking out, autorejection, break up they are not revengeful, spiteful etc....
I am not going to go over the hoc girls cause is just the opposite of what i wrote above....^
Now i am going to address all the constant objections that i have heard from people trying to debunk my theory:
- "Who cares about all that shit I just move on?" This sounds good in text and is right advice, but do you rather move on and deal with break up in a smooth, easy manner or in a more painful, hurtful manner.... Also, this are women you made main, or you fell in love with this are not fuck buddies.... My point is, it is way easier to move on from a smooth break up than from a painful break up specially when as you trying to move on you know she is fucking other dudes... In other words the move on stages is way easier when you don't have to deal with being cuck.
- "who cares i am poly?" what does this has to do with anything, when you are poly and she is your "main" you instinctively know that she is not going to exercise as a main the poly pass (which is true and i agree with this), but again do you rather a main that will just move on smoothly or one that will show or those negatives i mentioned previously.... There is a huge different with mains of no hoc and mains with hoc, huge.... I AM NOT TALKING FRIENDS WITH BENEFITS OF MULTIPLE LONG TERM RELATIONSHIPS.... I am talking open long term relationships, mains, girlfriends, wives. (women you love and are pair bonded with poly or not make no difference will hurt the fucking same)
- " I just care about how the girl treats me, i don't give a fuck about hoc".--- This is one of the dumbest objections i have ever heard, no shit! Being treated well is part of the fucking screening that is why she is main i hope, and has nothing to do with nothing... Hoc has nothing to do with how you being treated is an addition on how you been treated..... So again a girl that will treat you well (common fucking sense) and no hoc will be superior to girl that will treat you well and hoc...
- "i know a mormon that had a girl that was a mormon and had no hoc and did a 3 some with some couple".- I hope you already catch the issue is normie mormon, not a fucking seducer that went into a relationship I bet a million dollars in the way i posted in the link on how to enter into a proper relationship or give main status.... guarantee.... Most of the times is dudes that mention what they are looking for or bluff and the girl molds to his desires to get him and take him of the market.....Funnily enough more of the red pillers are the dumbest ones that fall into that trap.
-"I picked my girlfriend cause she was hot and then i realized she had no hoc after I bang her". So you cut corners, got lazy, did not screen and just got lucky... Good for you.... Has nothing to do with nothing.....
^ This is shit i keep hearing over and over from actual seducers just lol, again, guys this is not me kj this is actual experience of me dating long term girls with no hoc and hoc in all type of set ups..... Hopefully, some of you will actually listen to me and you will realize that is a HUGE PART of screening..... HUGE.... For me any other matrix is silly like "no tats" "meeting them in day game" "lay count" and the other none sense is silly.... No hoc is huge..... If not you guys can go ahead and ltr and hoc girls and a no hoc girls, be my guest and see the difference for yourself... but why?