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Hi everyone!
Just wanted to introduce myself, this is actually the first time I've ever joined an online forum. Been lurking for awhile, started reading articles on GirlsChase about a month ago and just recently discovered the forums. Gotta say I have a lot of respect for the people here, most people I've read up on in PUA/Seduction communities are bitter and misogynistic; and for awhile I was like that too. I'd much rather think of girls as silly creatures that we should love, rather than hate. I'm really glad I found this site!
A bit about me: I'm a 22 year old Real Estate Broker in my sophomore year of college. I had a digestive disease all through high school and early college that caused me to lose my intestines at 19; I thought the bag I now have to wear would be a huge blow to my self confidence, but it's actually just made me want to be even MORE better with women! I've been modeling since high school and despite having the bag I still do it (just not the shirtless stuff anymore), I don't consider myself good looking; I.E. girls will approach my "better looking" friends on Facebook or at parties for dates/sex (I tend to roll with extremely good looking cats, no game honestly but they have the looks factor going lol). This used to bug the hell out of me and made me feel not good enough, but it's also made me quite ballsy and able to quickly move on. I have a rule where I absolutely NEVER do the friend zone with a girl, lest I become an orbiter. Despite the comparative looks aspect I've gotten quite a few lays under my belt, used a combination of Okcupid/POF/Tinder/Cold Approach/Warm Lead Approach/Party Hookups. I also had an easy in because I started my own Nightclub/Rave/Yacht Party company at 19 and ran that for a couple years (used the authoritative figure approach).
Game: I think I have "decent" Fundamentals, but I'd rather classify myself as a complete newbie/beginner. I got really used to girls approaching me on Facebook or at parties for my connections/hookups and I'd turn that around into a lead/lay for myself. Once I ditched my Rave company I also started dating this girl I knew back in high school (but was too much of a pussy/weak) to approach back then. We dated for four months and then she ditched me for one of her many orbiters, could never figure out why but I suppose it really doesn't matter does it? Anyway I've just started cold approaching again and had some decent success these last couple weeks. I've had one lay that I picked up at school when I was there for an advisory meeting, had two dates this week with different girls that were unfortunately rather unsuccessful.
Last two dates: First one was kinda an oddball tbh, I grabbed her number after a horribly unsuccessful night (but plenty of approaches ^_^), used direct game to grab it and closed interaction after about 30 seconds. During the date itself I may have talked a bit to much (mostly during stories, I have fucking awesome stories but really just need to shut my mouth) I'd say interaction was 60-40 her way. Also I may have painted myself as "other" vs. her feminist ideals. Anyway when I closed out the date on the walk back to my car, I kissed her and she melted in my arms, quite literally melted. However when I took her over to the park to progress further, she got more and more uncomfortable and while continued to kind of kiss me here and there she ended up just reaaaaally wanting to go home; didn't seem to be a persistence issue so I said "ok". She was a bit strange though and accused me of being a player because of how fast I tried to move, which I thought was interesting lol. Perhaps I didn't create enough of an emotional connection, anyway I missed her exit and she offered to take the bus home, so I dropped her off; closed out with a kiss and told her to text me. Never got a text from her (unsurprising though).
Second one, so I'm leaving my current brokerage (where I'm office manager/front desk) to go work as a buyers agent on a team, the woman replacing me was SUPER FUCKING HOT, so I decided to grab her number at the holiday party. She didn't bring a date, she brought her little sister, which I thought was a bit odd. Ended up coming to sit by her after I was done with reception responsibilities and had about a 15-20 minute interaction with her and grabbed her number; BUT I DIDN'T COMMENT ABOUT HER LOOKS OR ASK FOR THE DATE (major mistake I think). Anyway I set it up for that Tuesday over text when i get home (this was Saturday) and when I asked her I told her over text I thought she was gorgeous (probably looked weak to not say that in person). So we go out last night to dinner, things go pretty well at first, she seemed pretty interested; I committed to the touch a few times, showed her my new tattoo, lead her outside (I'm practicing leading, this one's a bit hard for me) while we waited for them to call my name (the dinner lineup was about 15 minutes). It went pretty well, I'd say the date was about 90 minutes or so, bit long but she was kind of a chatterbox (which I found odd for a 26 year old). Went really well, I deep dived, got her talking, built as much of an emotional connection as I could, told her I thought she was a fox etc. etc. Things seemed to be going pretty well, BUT THEN I PAID FOR THE DATE (because I'm so used to doing so... it's still very hard for me to say "split check"). Dunno if that was the off putter, the girl previous to this ended up paying for the entire date while I was in the restroom lol; that was accidental. Anyway I lead her out to the park which was a quick block down the street, it's very chilly but I thought this would work in my favor. So we go and she keeps say she's cold so I take this to mean "warm me up
" so I put my arms around her tryna warm her up, as we get to the fountain in the park I maneuvered her so I was facing her and went for the kiss; got nothing back lol. Didn't take offense just backed up and lead her to the bench and tried to kiss her again, finally she tells me that she's not interested in me like that and likes me as a friend (I thought this was funny as I told her on the date both my buddies and myself don't do the friend zone with women, like ever). I say that's not what I'm looking for and she says she really wants to see me as more but she can't (letting down easy perhaps), I tried one more time to kiss her, we kind of kiss for a few seconds and she just tells me she's not feeling it at all. This is where I started acting a bit needy I think, dunno why but the first thing that came to mind was I said "I guess my game wasn't up to par, any mistakes you can point out?", she said "sometimes you just have to blame the girl, I really don't think you're bad looking, you're KIND OF good looking!). At this point I'm not really getting anything out of the situation so I tell her "your loss" and dip out, the entire time repeating the phrase "I will not let this make me bitter" to myself. I think my emotional armor just needs some improving as well, I'm a bit rusty after my last relationship.
Anyway, as I said just wanted to say hello and give some updates on my progress! Any advice is of course more than welcome, really gotta say I love this site! I've committed myself to getting better with women THE RIGHT WAY. There are no cheat codes (I'm a gamer) and I know there will be plenty of hurt, ego destroying moments and feeling like it's not worth it; BUT IT IS WORTH IT, and I'm gonna do whatever it takes to get better! I think it's also worth mentioning that I was diagnosed with extremely bad social anxiety, and I have to work at it everyday for it not to beat me.
Just wanted to introduce myself, this is actually the first time I've ever joined an online forum. Been lurking for awhile, started reading articles on GirlsChase about a month ago and just recently discovered the forums. Gotta say I have a lot of respect for the people here, most people I've read up on in PUA/Seduction communities are bitter and misogynistic; and for awhile I was like that too. I'd much rather think of girls as silly creatures that we should love, rather than hate. I'm really glad I found this site!
A bit about me: I'm a 22 year old Real Estate Broker in my sophomore year of college. I had a digestive disease all through high school and early college that caused me to lose my intestines at 19; I thought the bag I now have to wear would be a huge blow to my self confidence, but it's actually just made me want to be even MORE better with women! I've been modeling since high school and despite having the bag I still do it (just not the shirtless stuff anymore), I don't consider myself good looking; I.E. girls will approach my "better looking" friends on Facebook or at parties for dates/sex (I tend to roll with extremely good looking cats, no game honestly but they have the looks factor going lol). This used to bug the hell out of me and made me feel not good enough, but it's also made me quite ballsy and able to quickly move on. I have a rule where I absolutely NEVER do the friend zone with a girl, lest I become an orbiter. Despite the comparative looks aspect I've gotten quite a few lays under my belt, used a combination of Okcupid/POF/Tinder/Cold Approach/Warm Lead Approach/Party Hookups. I also had an easy in because I started my own Nightclub/Rave/Yacht Party company at 19 and ran that for a couple years (used the authoritative figure approach).
Game: I think I have "decent" Fundamentals, but I'd rather classify myself as a complete newbie/beginner. I got really used to girls approaching me on Facebook or at parties for my connections/hookups and I'd turn that around into a lead/lay for myself. Once I ditched my Rave company I also started dating this girl I knew back in high school (but was too much of a pussy/weak) to approach back then. We dated for four months and then she ditched me for one of her many orbiters, could never figure out why but I suppose it really doesn't matter does it? Anyway I've just started cold approaching again and had some decent success these last couple weeks. I've had one lay that I picked up at school when I was there for an advisory meeting, had two dates this week with different girls that were unfortunately rather unsuccessful.
Last two dates: First one was kinda an oddball tbh, I grabbed her number after a horribly unsuccessful night (but plenty of approaches ^_^), used direct game to grab it and closed interaction after about 30 seconds. During the date itself I may have talked a bit to much (mostly during stories, I have fucking awesome stories but really just need to shut my mouth) I'd say interaction was 60-40 her way. Also I may have painted myself as "other" vs. her feminist ideals. Anyway when I closed out the date on the walk back to my car, I kissed her and she melted in my arms, quite literally melted. However when I took her over to the park to progress further, she got more and more uncomfortable and while continued to kind of kiss me here and there she ended up just reaaaaally wanting to go home; didn't seem to be a persistence issue so I said "ok". She was a bit strange though and accused me of being a player because of how fast I tried to move, which I thought was interesting lol. Perhaps I didn't create enough of an emotional connection, anyway I missed her exit and she offered to take the bus home, so I dropped her off; closed out with a kiss and told her to text me. Never got a text from her (unsurprising though).
Second one, so I'm leaving my current brokerage (where I'm office manager/front desk) to go work as a buyers agent on a team, the woman replacing me was SUPER FUCKING HOT, so I decided to grab her number at the holiday party. She didn't bring a date, she brought her little sister, which I thought was a bit odd. Ended up coming to sit by her after I was done with reception responsibilities and had about a 15-20 minute interaction with her and grabbed her number; BUT I DIDN'T COMMENT ABOUT HER LOOKS OR ASK FOR THE DATE (major mistake I think). Anyway I set it up for that Tuesday over text when i get home (this was Saturday) and when I asked her I told her over text I thought she was gorgeous (probably looked weak to not say that in person). So we go out last night to dinner, things go pretty well at first, she seemed pretty interested; I committed to the touch a few times, showed her my new tattoo, lead her outside (I'm practicing leading, this one's a bit hard for me) while we waited for them to call my name (the dinner lineup was about 15 minutes). It went pretty well, I'd say the date was about 90 minutes or so, bit long but she was kind of a chatterbox (which I found odd for a 26 year old). Went really well, I deep dived, got her talking, built as much of an emotional connection as I could, told her I thought she was a fox etc. etc. Things seemed to be going pretty well, BUT THEN I PAID FOR THE DATE (because I'm so used to doing so... it's still very hard for me to say "split check"). Dunno if that was the off putter, the girl previous to this ended up paying for the entire date while I was in the restroom lol; that was accidental. Anyway I lead her out to the park which was a quick block down the street, it's very chilly but I thought this would work in my favor. So we go and she keeps say she's cold so I take this to mean "warm me up
" so I put my arms around her tryna warm her up, as we get to the fountain in the park I maneuvered her so I was facing her and went for the kiss; got nothing back lol. Didn't take offense just backed up and lead her to the bench and tried to kiss her again, finally she tells me that she's not interested in me like that and likes me as a friend (I thought this was funny as I told her on the date both my buddies and myself don't do the friend zone with women, like ever). I say that's not what I'm looking for and she says she really wants to see me as more but she can't (letting down easy perhaps), I tried one more time to kiss her, we kind of kiss for a few seconds and she just tells me she's not feeling it at all. This is where I started acting a bit needy I think, dunno why but the first thing that came to mind was I said "I guess my game wasn't up to par, any mistakes you can point out?", she said "sometimes you just have to blame the girl, I really don't think you're bad looking, you're KIND OF good looking!). At this point I'm not really getting anything out of the situation so I tell her "your loss" and dip out, the entire time repeating the phrase "I will not let this make me bitter" to myself. I think my emotional armor just needs some improving as well, I'm a bit rusty after my last relationship.Anyway, as I said just wanted to say hello and give some updates on my progress! Any advice is of course more than welcome, really gotta say I love this site! I've committed myself to getting better with women THE RIGHT WAY. There are no cheat codes (I'm a gamer) and I know there will be plenty of hurt, ego destroying moments and feeling like it's not worth it; BUT IT IS WORTH IT, and I'm gonna do whatever it takes to get better! I think it's also worth mentioning that I was diagnosed with extremely bad social anxiety, and I have to work at it everyday for it not to beat me.
