Night game, drinking, and when to go out.

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I thought I'd ask some of you for some advice here as I have not done night game religiously since I was in college. When I was in college, I felt like 11 to 11:30 is actually when the night began because people would be going out at around that time. Ever since moving to NYC, that is not really the case and I feel like the night perhaps starts earlier than that.

Most of my time going out has been with either groups or more day-drinking.

One other issue I have that has carried over from college is that I drink a lot and at times too much which makes my game suck. My friends who I occasionally go out with drink a ton too and manage to pull, like I am talking hard shots of liquor and up to 4 to 5 whiteclaws at a pregame along with drinks at a bar.

So I had some questions as my big goal for 2020 is to get better at real night game in a major city.

1. When should you ideally aim to be out of your house?

2. For drinking, how much is too much?

3. I keep running into large social groups and large crowds of people out together when doing night game, how do you deal with this if most hot girls are in large social groups?

 

[Velasco]

1. When should you ideally aim to be out of your house?

2. For drinking, how much is too much?

3. I keep running into large social groups and large crowds of people out together when doing night game, how do you deal with this if most hot girls are in large social groups?

1. Depends on how far away you are from the bar area you want to go to. For me I want to walk inside my first bar around midnight. So I plan accordingly.

2. Depends on the person. Some guys as you say can drink a million drinks and operate just fine. While others drinking only 3-4 drinks, makes them completely uncalibrated, and blackout where they don't remember anything from the night. I've had a lot of nights like that...lol. So my advice (as someone who can get messed up very quickly), would be during pregame. drink verrrry slowly. 1-2 drinks. drink a glass of water in between drinks. then at the bar, open 3 sets without drinking. After that, then get a drink. Drink that drink slowly again. And you're not allowed to get another drink until you've made 3 more approaches. If you manage to hook a good set, and pull her then congrats! If not then go back to the bar and get your 2nd drink but this time, get a water too. So you won't get dehydrated. Rinse repeat.

3. I know what you mean. All I can tell you is be patient, keep your eyes open (this can be quite difficult when your blackout wasted haha), and have realistic expectations. Cold approach night game is honestly not the game where you will be pulling the absolute hottest girls in the bar every night if you're not a 9/10 good looking dude (I'll give that honor to elite social circle game). The best you can do is pick up and fuck girls who are very pretty/cute/sexy 7-8s. Some of them will be ONS only (either by your or their choice) and some you'll end up converting to FBs.

 

[naturalmikey]

go out an hour before close and have two string drinks before hand. this puts you in the bar at pull time and assures you’re won’t get too drunk. god i’m glad i live in california and that strategy doesn’t involve being up all night

 

[Space]

go out an hour before close and have two string drinks before hand. this puts you in the bar at pull time and assures you’re won’t get too drunk. god i’m glad i live in california and that strategy doesn’t involve being up all night

That's why I prefer more generic advice to (location) specific ones I can tailor to my circumstances.

Your advice in my case would mean going out at 5AM lol.

Which reminds me of the 6 week old, 3-page dancefloor discussion with @Skills still without any conclusion or actionable advice (one) as far as I'm concerned (two) but it's totally fine. Probably I just came to this forum for rambling anyway.

 

[Skills]

I have a million blog posts, answers and videos full of actionable advice that took me a million years to learn and tons of failures... you want baby sitting, maybe you should learn to ask questions space....

There is typical type of posters that ask? gets the answers, does not do shit! and blame it on the person that gave the answer...

to the op:

1.- early for access to club and to get in free, avoid crowds, and/or get discount entrance.

2.- no drinking (cost money, and kill reference experiences and is a crutch)

3.- either befriend the group, or open the girl when she is separated from the group.

the 3rd question is very complex... You can look for a break of the group, and open and hook the girl, or you can befriend the group and then get the girl...

 

[naturalmikey]

@Space people complain about 2 am closing time in los angeles but i love it. i don’t want it be out until 4 or 6 am. if i can pull at 1:30 i can get to bed at a decent hour. if i pull at 3:30 i’m up so fucking late. maybe that’s the old man in me talking.

 

[Grand Pooba]

@Space people complain about 2 am closing time in los angeles but i love it. i don’t want it be out until 4 or 6 am. if i can pull at 1:30 i can get to bed at a decent hour. if i pull at 3:30 i’m up so fucking late. maybe that’s the old man in me talking.

There is a good argument to be made here, actually. In some ways places where bars close early (i.e. LA, 2am; San Diego 1:30am) are actually superior to places where bars/clubs close late (i.e. NYC 4am, Miami 7am??) for two reasons:

1. Shorter time window forces men and women to make moves sooner, and for women to choose sooner. In a 4am city, a girl can still stay out hoping for another option when it's 1:30am; she doesn't have the same leeway in a 2am city.
2. When bars close early, it's very very easy to invite girls to an afterparty (even impromptu) if they still want to stay out and party or go home with a guy. It's a much harder argument to make when a bar closes at 4am or later - people just feel tired usually.

 

[Space]

@Space people complain about 2 am closing time in los angeles but i love it. i don’t want it be out until 4 or 6 am. if i can pull at 1:30 i can get to bed at a decent hour. if i pull at 3:30 i’m up so fucking late. maybe that’s the old man in me talking.

@naturalmikey, it's not just old man talking, it's any sensible person talking who wants to make girls returning customers by meaningful sexual adventures while not fucking up his (and their) sleeping schedules. But long story short, I'm not moving to selected US cities via fake marriage (which I don't recommend to anyone) for the privilege to live in a city with such and such closing times. What do I do? I adapt.

In other news, happy birthday to you!

There is a good argument to be made here, actually. In some ways places where bars close early (i.e. LA, 2am; San Diego 1:30am) are actually superior to places where bars/clubs close late (i.e. NYC 4am, Miami 7am??) for two reasons:

Fair enough, Chieftan Pooba. But if the best answer the Girl Chase collective as a whole can give to its readers from 90 countries across the world about night game is to move to a select US city with such and such closing times...then maybe I should look for my answers elsewhere. No big deal.