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So this is my first lay from cold approach.
fuck yeah
Now I know this shit is possible for real, If I can fuck one, why not a thousand?
Lets begin:
I was eating lunch outside on my college campus when I see this African bitch with FAT ass walk by.
I paused my lunch to jog after her.
I think this was the day after I had "cracked the code" of cold approach. I had this realization (probably from being more aware of my fundamentals) that the approach consisted of several key elements strung together into a work of art. These elements are:
Me: "Hi" (smile)
Me: "I was walking by (point to where you were while looking in that direction, keep the grin), And I noticed you looked Beautiful, (do a small nervous laugh while emphasizing the word beautiful, it's hard to explain what it looks like but it shows how excited you are. I also gesture at her like "wow, look at you!") and wanted to come over and say hi
Then wait for her to respond
that is a lot to remember for like 3 seconds of interaction, I don't expect you to remember it, just the general idea, you'll have your own way of coming across raw. Shoutout to @Hector Papi Castillo, he created the raw opener, I figured out how to pull it off properly this week.
During those 5 days of texting, nothing really stands out to me. I didn't really text her that often because I feel the more I text the more opportunities I have to fuck up. I would take a while to respond, trying to space it out so we weren't texting all the time
She had a hard time finding the coffee shop, so I helped her out over the phone. I feel like that helped my chances with her a little bit bc she was reliant on me.
when we meet I start escalation slowly (hug, shoulder tap, arm around shoulder etc.)
Conversation goes okay, just typical small talk, after the energy grows a bit stale in the coffee shop, I move us to a bench outside. When we're sitting side by side on the bench, she's telling me what her life is like, moving to America, workaholic, troubles speaking English etc. and I've moved up to touching her leg a little, tapping it when I make a point. That moves up to me stroking her leg a bit, and by that point I'm like yeah I might be able to kiss her. So when she asks what the word fun means (she's an immigrant) I say "This is what fun is" then go for the kiss but she pulls away. We talk for a little longer, I try to kiss once more (nope), then decide we go for a walk around the neighborhood.
As we were walking, I try to hold her hand, we hold hands but her grip is pretty faint so I decided to let go. Talking is going well, mostly talking about her life. hopes, dreams, fears etc. She's very close to me, like bumping into me while we walk
We reach this park in the middle of the neighborhood. We sit together on this bench, I try to kiss her again but instead she lets me kiss her cheek. She asks me why I like her and then I bring up all of the good qualities she passively mentioned about her self during the date.
She starts to get more vulnerable talking about her fears. During more positive fun parts of the convo she starts touching me back, I kiss her on the cheek a couple more times.
I ask if she wants to come back to my place she says no, I say it would be fun, tying back to the frame I set when I tried to kiss her, she picked up on me implying intimacy and maybe sex
I could tell because then she starts brining up how she likes sex a lot, but only with the right person because she doesn't want to be a slut. She talks about how many times a week we would fuck if I was her boyfriend.
I think I said I wanted to be her boyfriend at one point because by how she was talking I could tell was looking for a long term partner, this I regret saying because I was unsure when I said it and it made the seduction harder later on.
We make plans to go back to my place next week and watch a movie. I tell her to sit on my lap and she does (her big ass feels good lol). We talk a bit more and than I decide to get going. When we're walking back to our cars I'm grabbing her ass a lot, and she likes it.
That's date 1.
The next day I send her the text: "I enjoyed hanging out with you yesterday"
She doesn't respond the whole day and I think she's not interested anymore. So I decide to send a Hail Mary text. Some context before I show you it tho:
I had a coaching call with @Hector Papi Castillo the morning after the date and he told me how she probably didn't want to kiss me because the connection wasn't there, basically I didn't share enough about myself. With just the arousal and compliance, when she looks back on the date she thinks I didn't really care about because of the lack of similarity and connection.
So I sent this text in order to fix the mistakes I made on the date, your gonna cringe I swear not my best moment:
"I know you probably don't think we had a connection or that I just wanted to have sex with you. But that's not true. I would love to see you again and we do not have to do anything sexual, we can do whatever makes you comfortable and I am open to sharing with you my struggles, I know you shared a lot of your own"
So yeah pretty much simping, but it was genuine, if we had a casual relationship it wouldn't just be sex we would also get to know each other, and I was willing to do a slower seduction, I mean I don't have a lot of options at the moment so not a horrible idea as long as it doesn't take forever
@Hector Papi Castillo said this was an overcorrection. He said If you want a girl to fall in love with you, you say shit like that
He was right, this is what she said back:
(First a paragraph explaining how her phone fell in water and was broken for a bit) then
"Good morning"
"Are you coming to school today?"
"I want to see you"
"Because my session is ending today"
Then we met at school that day for a bit, same vibe of the date, a lot of toucing
But then she starts sending heart emojis in her texts. And asking over text why I keep my phone always off (she was calling me) I tell its because of Do Not Disturb setting then she types
"Is that the reason darling or are you cheating on me?"
And now I'm like oh shit she's sprung
I read an article by @Chase about how to deal with difficult testy questions like this so I said
"That is the reason"
"I keep on DND so my phone doesn't distract me"
Then she heavily apologizes in her broken English, and I just like the message because I don't to say "I forgive you" and reward bad behavior on small shit like this, she may think it's okay to pull shit like that if I keep forgiving her and saying it's totally fine.
Texting continues and my @Hector Papi Castillo tells me I should talk to her about that "are you cheating" message and her catching feelings really fast. This is like 2-3 days away from her coming over to my place date. I decide to call her and ask her if that message was just her flirting with me or was she serious about cheating.
And she said she was serious about it. So I had to tell her "hey you know this is moving too fast for me, It takes me a while to get attached to someone so maybe we shouldn't do this unless your okay there being a difference in attachment levels, let me know what you think"
and on the call she's quiet after that for like 2 minutes, I have to get going to class so I tell her to text me how she feels if she can't talk now and then I hang up.
Jeez
At night I ask her how she is and she responds "I'm fine thanks"
Then the day of the date, I send a confirmation text (hey see you at x time). She doesn't respond to that.
So I call her a couple hours before she's supposed to come over and she picks up and says she's coming.
Date 2:
When she arrives at my house I give her a light peck on the lips (I think we kissed that on campus meet up at school too). We're like 5 minutes into the movie and I'm already making out with her.
She says how she wants to watch the movie and we can do that later. I keep making out with her and I've got my hand on her pussy too.
We alternate between doing this for a bit and stopping when she brings up objections about how her culture is different and she doesn't to be a slut, then we go back to making out and fingering.
On the last objection she tells me the whole story, About how when she divorced her husband and moved to America she promised to God that she would not have sex until she found her future husband.
That combined with seeing her upset about this made me stop anddecide to give up like "damn she's really set on this"
butttt.....
then I got horny again and started making out with her rubbing her, and then this time when I grabbed for the condom she didn't stop me.
Before I put it in I asked her twice "are you sure you want to do this" and she said yes.
I smiled at her and said "I don't have to be your husband you know" then put it in.
The rest is history
P.S. We switched to raw dawg because it was difficult to stay hard with the condom and that shit feels so much better!
fuck yeah
Now I know this shit is possible for real, If I can fuck one, why not a thousand?
Lets begin:
I was eating lunch outside on my college campus when I see this African bitch with FAT ass walk by.
I paused my lunch to jog after her.
I think this was the day after I had "cracked the code" of cold approach. I had this realization (probably from being more aware of my fundamentals) that the approach consisted of several key elements strung together into a work of art. These elements are:
- Energy: High POSITIVE energy (keyword positive). This energy is an indicator to what type of man you are. They want a man that has his shit together. Positivity and Confidence together indicate you can be a emotionally stable partner. So what is an effective way to cultivate high energy? Create momentum. This can be done a variety of ways, I like to listen to music and sing along in the car on the way to an outing, I do a compassion meditation that makes me more positive open, and I've heard having positive interactions with others works too but I haven't found that to work with me. The music I listen to is some really arrogant rap that makes me feel like THE MAN. And the compassion meditation makes it easier to socialize.
- Opener: The opener's gotta be raw, I couldn't do a raw opener until about a week ago. Raw meaning it doesn't sound like a prepared line, it sounds genuine. This is done with attention to detail in your fundamentals. Let me explain:
Me: "Hi" (smile)
Me: "I was walking by (point to where you were while looking in that direction, keep the grin), And I noticed you looked Beautiful, (do a small nervous laugh while emphasizing the word beautiful, it's hard to explain what it looks like but it shows how excited you are. I also gesture at her like "wow, look at you!") and wanted to come over and say hi
Then wait for her to respond
that is a lot to remember for like 3 seconds of interaction, I don't expect you to remember it, just the general idea, you'll have your own way of coming across raw. Shoutout to @Hector Papi Castillo, he created the raw opener, I figured out how to pull it off properly this week.
- Conversation: You have to cover several topics briefly until you find one that sticks and captivates her. The basic idea is your mining for gold, your gonna find a lot of dirt, but once you find that gold, she's hooked. Remember to keep fundamentals all on point so you don't look boring
- Gauging her interest: This takes some time figure out but eventually you will get a sense for when a girl is ready for you to ask for the number. Be watching her and her signals so you can accurately judge when to ask her out
During those 5 days of texting, nothing really stands out to me. I didn't really text her that often because I feel the more I text the more opportunities I have to fuck up. I would take a while to respond, trying to space it out so we weren't texting all the time
She had a hard time finding the coffee shop, so I helped her out over the phone. I feel like that helped my chances with her a little bit bc she was reliant on me.
when we meet I start escalation slowly (hug, shoulder tap, arm around shoulder etc.)
Conversation goes okay, just typical small talk, after the energy grows a bit stale in the coffee shop, I move us to a bench outside. When we're sitting side by side on the bench, she's telling me what her life is like, moving to America, workaholic, troubles speaking English etc. and I've moved up to touching her leg a little, tapping it when I make a point. That moves up to me stroking her leg a bit, and by that point I'm like yeah I might be able to kiss her. So when she asks what the word fun means (she's an immigrant) I say "This is what fun is" then go for the kiss but she pulls away. We talk for a little longer, I try to kiss once more (nope), then decide we go for a walk around the neighborhood.
As we were walking, I try to hold her hand, we hold hands but her grip is pretty faint so I decided to let go. Talking is going well, mostly talking about her life. hopes, dreams, fears etc. She's very close to me, like bumping into me while we walk
We reach this park in the middle of the neighborhood. We sit together on this bench, I try to kiss her again but instead she lets me kiss her cheek. She asks me why I like her and then I bring up all of the good qualities she passively mentioned about her self during the date.
She starts to get more vulnerable talking about her fears. During more positive fun parts of the convo she starts touching me back, I kiss her on the cheek a couple more times.
I ask if she wants to come back to my place she says no, I say it would be fun, tying back to the frame I set when I tried to kiss her, she picked up on me implying intimacy and maybe sex
I could tell because then she starts brining up how she likes sex a lot, but only with the right person because she doesn't want to be a slut. She talks about how many times a week we would fuck if I was her boyfriend.
I think I said I wanted to be her boyfriend at one point because by how she was talking I could tell was looking for a long term partner, this I regret saying because I was unsure when I said it and it made the seduction harder later on.
We make plans to go back to my place next week and watch a movie. I tell her to sit on my lap and she does (her big ass feels good lol). We talk a bit more and than I decide to get going. When we're walking back to our cars I'm grabbing her ass a lot, and she likes it.
That's date 1.
The next day I send her the text: "I enjoyed hanging out with you yesterday"
She doesn't respond the whole day and I think she's not interested anymore. So I decide to send a Hail Mary text. Some context before I show you it tho:
I had a coaching call with @Hector Papi Castillo the morning after the date and he told me how she probably didn't want to kiss me because the connection wasn't there, basically I didn't share enough about myself. With just the arousal and compliance, when she looks back on the date she thinks I didn't really care about because of the lack of similarity and connection.
So I sent this text in order to fix the mistakes I made on the date, your gonna cringe I swear not my best moment:
"I know you probably don't think we had a connection or that I just wanted to have sex with you. But that's not true. I would love to see you again and we do not have to do anything sexual, we can do whatever makes you comfortable and I am open to sharing with you my struggles, I know you shared a lot of your own"
So yeah pretty much simping, but it was genuine, if we had a casual relationship it wouldn't just be sex we would also get to know each other, and I was willing to do a slower seduction, I mean I don't have a lot of options at the moment so not a horrible idea as long as it doesn't take forever
@Hector Papi Castillo said this was an overcorrection. He said If you want a girl to fall in love with you, you say shit like that
He was right, this is what she said back:
(First a paragraph explaining how her phone fell in water and was broken for a bit) then
"Good morning"
"Are you coming to school today?"
"I want to see you"
"Because my session is ending today"
Then we met at school that day for a bit, same vibe of the date, a lot of toucing
But then she starts sending heart emojis in her texts. And asking over text why I keep my phone always off (she was calling me) I tell its because of Do Not Disturb setting then she types
"Is that the reason darling or are you cheating on me?"
And now I'm like oh shit she's sprung
I read an article by @Chase about how to deal with difficult testy questions like this so I said
"That is the reason"
"I keep on DND so my phone doesn't distract me"
Then she heavily apologizes in her broken English, and I just like the message because I don't to say "I forgive you" and reward bad behavior on small shit like this, she may think it's okay to pull shit like that if I keep forgiving her and saying it's totally fine.
Texting continues and my @Hector Papi Castillo tells me I should talk to her about that "are you cheating" message and her catching feelings really fast. This is like 2-3 days away from her coming over to my place date. I decide to call her and ask her if that message was just her flirting with me or was she serious about cheating.
And she said she was serious about it. So I had to tell her "hey you know this is moving too fast for me, It takes me a while to get attached to someone so maybe we shouldn't do this unless your okay there being a difference in attachment levels, let me know what you think"
and on the call she's quiet after that for like 2 minutes, I have to get going to class so I tell her to text me how she feels if she can't talk now and then I hang up.
Jeez
At night I ask her how she is and she responds "I'm fine thanks"
Then the day of the date, I send a confirmation text (hey see you at x time). She doesn't respond to that.
So I call her a couple hours before she's supposed to come over and she picks up and says she's coming.
Date 2:
When she arrives at my house I give her a light peck on the lips (I think we kissed that on campus meet up at school too). We're like 5 minutes into the movie and I'm already making out with her.
She says how she wants to watch the movie and we can do that later. I keep making out with her and I've got my hand on her pussy too.
We alternate between doing this for a bit and stopping when she brings up objections about how her culture is different and she doesn't to be a slut, then we go back to making out and fingering.
On the last objection she tells me the whole story, About how when she divorced her husband and moved to America she promised to God that she would not have sex until she found her future husband.
That combined with seeing her upset about this made me stop anddecide to give up like "damn she's really set on this"
butttt.....
then I got horny again and started making out with her rubbing her, and then this time when I grabbed for the condom she didn't stop me.
Before I put it in I asked her twice "are you sure you want to do this" and she said yes.
I smiled at her and said "I don't have to be your husband you know" then put it in.
The rest is history
P.S. We switched to raw dawg because it was difficult to stay hard with the condom and that shit feels so much better!
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