Not masturbating the day of getting girls?

[Godsninja]

I was thinking about Chase's post on porn addiction, and how he said not to masturbate the day of going out and getting girls. I can understand how this can be easy when you have a steady stream of girls and have your shit together, but when you don't, AND when your at your prime, and your sexual drive is going HAYWIRE, this can be a little difficult. One may think it doesn't matter, especially if you jerk off early in the morning, since your pretty much always ready to go. Right?

But then I was thinking, there should be some sort of supporting evidence. Why should you not masturbate the day you go out? (Not talking about right before you go out, that's obvious because then your desire to hump goes down a little)

When you get a little addicted to porn, this can be really hard. It's always worth it to control the amount you release... but if you're just SHAKING to get it on, is it really worth it to can your instinct and hope that you'll find a girl to mount that day?

Where is the evidence that says anything about you not being able to be on your A game that day, just because you released your spunk earlier that day?

Hope I can get some good minds pondering this issue of mine, and probably, a lot of young guys my age as well.

 

[PinotNoir]

This conversation has actually come up before on the forums.

As far as hard evidence, you'll really have to make your own. Everyone is different. Try a date where you masturbate beforehand and try one where you don't.

A valid source that we can pull from that has been studied extensively is how sex affects athletes....

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/02/0222_060222_sex_2.html
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/10/health/sex-athletes/
https://www.google.com/search?q=athletes+sex+day+of

I will cover the key points.

First, the sweet spot for an athlete is right in between aggressive and passive. An athlete that is too aggressive from lack of sex is actually equal to that of an athlete that has had too much sex and is passive (i.e., not as good).

So, if you feel as aggressive as you say, then it's probably best to masturbate the day before.

However, if you feel very passive (e.g., like you're probably not going to make a move and kiss her), then abstain from masturbating.

Secondly, this depends on the sport. It's suggested that it's actually better to be too aggressive for boxers/fighters compared with other athletes.

With us, maybe this would be a woman with lots of anti-slut resistance or a very strong-willed, independent woman.

Thirdly, from the article: "After three months without sex, which is not so uncommon for some athletes, testosterone dramatically drops to levels close to children's levels." So, if you're not having sex on the regular, it's probably best to masturbate.

Fourthly, if we consider point #1 where a guy is masturbating too much and is too passive, which I think Chase is really addressing here, then you will be too passive and not aggressive about going out and meeting new women. In the article, he talks about the cliche guy sitting at home playing video games, while Chase is off having sex. Even though masturbation is not true sex with a woman, your body still "thinks" it is, so your body is like, "Well, we've already spread our seed this week; let's take a break and enjoy some games."

If you feel like you're too aggressive with women, then you should probably masturbate more.

If you feel like you're too passive with women, then you should probably masturbate less.

If you're not sure, then you should probably masturbate at a healthy amount, like once a week, in order to keep your testosterone up.

Fifthly, masturbation, like almost anything in life, can be addictive. Do it in moderation. You know when you're doing it too much.... when you're not actively trying to bed real women.

Lastly, almost every study I have read says to refrain from it the day of competition. They say that the night before is fine, as long as you get an adequate amount of sleep (~8 hours or whatever that is for you). But, right before a competition, it can be too draining.

I'm not sure if this is a 1-to-1 to seduction, but I'd suggest masturbating the night before and not the day of based on this.

 

[Pmfroy]

It's interesting you bring this up. I read a post on iflscience a while ago about how watching too much porn and masturbating can lead to a decrease in motivation, an increase in the amount of serotonin needed to achieve happiness/satisfaction, and also a decrease in grey matter.

http://www.iflscience.com/brain/researc ... tter-brain

It's hard to say if it is due to porn/masturbation but there is an association. Do with that what you will.

Personally, I wouldn't rub one out before going on a date.

 

[Franco]

Godsninja,

Pinot gave you some good supporting evidence and advice here. For the most part, this is something you just have to try on your own to see the effects of it.

As for myself, I noticed that after about 5-8 days of no masturbating or sex, I was unusually sexually aggressive and horny, and it made me much more likely to act on impulses than I would under normal circumstances. However, after 7 or 8 days or so, I noticed that my aggressiveness seemed to transpire, and at that point it was better to just have sex or masturbate to restart the cycle.

The important aspect is the "more likely to act on impulses" part, which mainly helps with approach anxiety. I found that I was much more likely to approach women out of sheer lust rather than letting my logical brain decide whether or not I should proceed. I think it's helpful for beginners to do this so that they can go out and get some good experience approaching women if they're still nervous about approaching.

Now, with this being said, just being horny isn't going to get you laid. You still have to know what you're doing and have a methodical approach toward bedding a girl that takes time and practice to learn. So if you think you can just skip reading the material on this website and not masturbate for a week (and still get laid when you have no experience), then you need to think again.

- Franco

 

[Godsninja]

Thanks for the tips guys, they seem good enough to re-read.

No Franco, I don't think I have that problem, but I tested it myself and that is why I asked. I truly feel no different within my game..but there is a difference which was mentioned, and it's aggressiveness. That's probably why I approached so many girls when I wasn't masturbating.

I'm a little confused what you ment by "However, after 7 or 8 days or so, I noticed that my aggressiveness seemed to transpire, and at that point it was better to just have sex or masturbate to restart the cycle."

 

[Franco]

I'm a little confused what you ment by "However, after 7 or 8 days or so, I noticed that my aggressiveness seemed to transpire, and at that point it was better to just have sex or masturbate to restart the cycle."

Well, naturally when I first tried this, I got curious after I noticed how aggressive I was after 6 or 7 days of not masturbating. So I decided to experiment to see how aggressive I would be if I waited even longer! I thought maybe, "hey, if I'm THIS aggressive after only 7 days of not masturbating, I bet I'll be SUPER aggressive after 12 or 13 days!" However, I noticed that sometime after like 7 or 8 days of not masturbating, that aggressiveness just started to decline. It's almost as if my body's biology was like, "well, if you haven't gotten laid in a week, then it's probably not going to happen for awhile! Let's take a rest and we'll try again later."

When I noticed that waiting too long to masturbate or have sex actually lowered my aggression, I made sure just to masturbate or have sex after around 8 days so that I could restart the cycle to work towards being that aggressive again. So basically what I'm saying is, if you get to point after not masturbating that you feel LESS aggressive than the day before, then it means you've probably peaked and your body isn't going to continue giving you that extra adrenaline to procreate. So at that point, it might be better just to get your rocks off however you want, which will make your body reset its cycle toward becoming more aggressive again.

- Franco

 

[Godsninja]

I actually laughed at how you put it! Thanks, you've helped me out a lot!