Older Guy Getting Started

[HoofHearted]

Hi!

I'm an older guy (33) and just getting started. I've had sex with 10 women, but not at once, and not well.

I want to learn the cold approach, and I've sometimes done it by accident. But I'm worried about a few things.

1) Am I too old for this shit? Hope not, I love it.

2) I'm err kinda fluffy. I also have large stature (6'4" 230lbs) so I'm worried about scaring the shit out of people. I am trying to lose weight, but I didn't want to... wait before learning. I understand this will hurt my success with the ladies, but I guess the idea is more like acquire the skills now.

So iow I want to approach fine, sexy women but I'm a bit old and kinda look like hot garbage. Weightloss is slowgoing so I can't just magically fix this. Usually I get 'knight' or 'caveman' when girls talk about my appearance because I have long hair and am thicc I guess.

I think I am an uncommonly bold person, but these things have stopped me dead in my tracks. I almost feel like I should wait, but time is such a valuable commodity for acquiring skills and assets. Would appreciate any perspective about this.

My recent strategy has been travelling to city center to go to the gym on the weekend. I love to lift weights, so I lift there. Then I spend about 4hrs trying to meet ladies, usually in coffee shops and bookstores (I am an intellectual). They look pretty young these days, but I still wanna do 'em (remember, I'm an intellectual).

Last time I went out I was real scared. Normally I can be hypersocial and talk to everyone but not like this, too scared. I did end up making an approach but fuck it ended up turning rather professional (she was randomly a book reviewer and I am a novelist, we ended up exchanging info about my upcoming release. But that's not what I wanted at all! I wanted a different kind of release! I was just scared).

I dream of baggin' a class of lady far beyond what I've known. I'm actually pretty cool, you have to believe me. I can partner dance, own a small business, am well travelled, bilingual, educated, play instruments, am a novelist and a poet, and I have plenty money/free time from workin' with computers. This shit don't seem to matter for the cold approach, I noticed.

I kinda love that though. It's kinda brutal that none of that matters. So what does matter? What's holding me back? Why am I not drowning in pussy, or terrorized by tiddies, or simpin' in 12 different friendzones?

Thanks for your input. Please do not ask me anything about women, I don't know shit 'bout them.

Where to start under the circumstances?

EDIT: I guess I should say what I *think* I'm pursuing. I would like to be able to see a woman I like, and go to her all Paul Newman-like, and take my golf shot percentage chance at the hunt. Right now usually too scared to swing. Would like to develop a good, high percentage swing.

 

[switchblade]

Maybe see if you can find infields (hidden footage of people approaching girls) to give you an idea of what to try saying and doing?
Sounds like you're talking about day game/approaching girls in the day
Maybe someone like Tom Torerro or TaySocial or Coach Kyle - they're some of the names that spring to mind. Oh, and of course Todd V who most people online say is the best there is

 

[Warped Mindless]

I'm an older guy (33) and just getting started. I've had sex with 10 women, but not at once, and not well.

I want to learn the cold approach, and I've sometimes done it by accident. But I'm worried about a few things.

1) Am I too old for this shit? Hope not, I love it.

33 is NOT old. Like, that’s crazy talk! Also LOTS of women love older dudes. I’m 32 and can still fuck 18yo women with no problems. The older you get the more you have to take care of yourself though. Eat right, exercise, sleep, stay hydrated, dress stylish, pluck grey hairs, etc.

2) I'm err kinda fluffy. I also have large stature (6'4" 230lbs) so I'm worried about scaring the shit out of people. I am trying to lose weight, but I didn't want to... wait before learning. I understand this will hurt my success with the ladies, but I guess the idea is more like acquire the skills now.

So iow I want to approach fine, sexy women but I'm a bit old and kinda look like hot garbage. Weightloss is slowgoing so I can't just magically fix this. Usually I get 'knight' or 'caveman' when girls talk about my appearance because I have long hair and am thicc I guess.

Approach from the front and smile so you offset the physical size. Dressing right can help minimize the effect of being overweight but keep working on getting the extra pounds off.

EDIT: I guess I should say what I *think* I'm pursuing. I would like to be able to see a woman I like, and go to her all Paul Newman-like, and take my golf shot percentage chance at the hunt. Right now usually too scared to swing. Would like to develop a good, high percentage swing.

So it sounds like you are interested in daygame. First thing you need to do is get a basic grasp of pick up/seduction theory. Right now you are at the “don’t know what you don’t know” stage and you need to become aware of all the principals and concepts.

Two good ways to do:

1) Chase has an excellent book called “How to make girls chase” that is an excellent introduction book.

2) He, and other authors, have tons of articles on girlschase.com . My advice is to purchase a subscription and go to the “start here” page to read the reccomended articles first. Take notes.

After that search his articles for “day game” and you’ll find quite a few more specific ones that will help you.

Then to read my thread on how to actually learn game quick
Thread 'Using neuroscience to learn game fast and efficiently….'
https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/using-neuroscience-to-learn-game-fast-and-efficiently….26475/

For best results start a journal on here and guys like me will chime in and help you along

 

[climbingup]

Welcome man!

 

[Toby2030]

Welcome onboard,
IMO there's 5 factors to great succes when you are all new to this:

- Pick one product and focus only on the info from there for the first 6-12 months time. I would recommend http://witch60.com/
- Work on your fundamentals. Lose weight, get a nice haircut, work on your style, make good eye contact, work on your posture etc.
- The guys that do best in most things are guys who create habits around their goals. You get results because you consistently work on them. Make it a habit to go out every friday and saturday (or similar)
- Create a journal on this site where more experienced guys can give you advice on your approches.
- Always focus on the ONE thing that gives you the biggest results when you go out. Eg. when you are new, you shouldn't use all your energy on learning how to reduce last minute resistance, but focus 100% on improving your approches.

Good luck, I'm looking forward to see you around!

 

[HoofHearted]

For best results start a journal on here and guys like me will chime in and help you along

Like this idea.

Thank you kindly gents. I am out hawkin' today. Would love tips about where to go. I know bookstore and coffeeshop.

 

[Warped Mindless]

Like this idea.

Thank you kindly gents. I am out hawkin' today. Would love tips about where to go. I know bookstore and coffeeshop.

What type of women do you most want to meet? No where do those types visit during the day?

In my old city there was strip mall type area that had a modeling agency, a hair salon, a nail place, and a womens clothing store all right together. Guess where I went to day game a lot?

 

[HoofHearted]

What type of women do you most want to meet? No where do those types visit during the day?

In my old city there was strip mall type area that had a modeling agency, a hair salon, a nail place, and a womens clothing store all right together. Guess where I went to day game a lot?

Haha my man, that sounds like quite the spot.

I've always found that question kind of silly, which is probably not going to be a popular take. I want to meet women I respond to! And experience has shown that's a wide range of women, some of which is unexpected.

What I'm really looking for is quantity, age 21-29. I'm sure from a general pool in most places I can find something I like.

Thanks for responding, you're great!