I'm a youthful 80+ white guy.
I have a son who tells me that for many years he was clueless with girls but more recently has been learning "seduction" and has been able to get even a college girl half his age into bed on a casual basis.
I am in a new situation right now and he wanted to give advice but said that he is still just learning and also doesn't have "data points" relevant to my case. He suggested I talk to more experienced "seducers".
For background, I was married to his mother but had to separate 40+ years ago as she had major issues. Several years later I got with a girl way way younger than me, but troubled; we were together a few years & very sexual, but eventually she drifted away. I then had a brief affair with a married girl who wanted to leave her husband but abruptly disappeared completely (and 20 years later I was introduced to twins who wanted to meet their biological father). That affair was the last time I had penetrative sex, 35+ years ago.
A few years later I pursued a girl who worked in the same building as me, and started meeting and talking to her very regularly. She was my lady interest, and the only one, for 15+ years, but I was never able to interest her in sex. (My son says it was "oneitis" but also notes she seems celibate.) We are still fairly close friends, and my family has regarded her as my partner.
I have two other lady friends, who I have known for a number of years. I haven't slept with either. My son says they sucker me into doing them favors, buying them dinner, etc. I do enjoy their company, though.
About 15 years ago, I met a black lady, Eve, about 20 years my junior, in a church I was going to at the time. I basically just went up to her and talked to her, and told her she should leave her husband and marry me. (My son said this is a bad habit, when I am hitting on girls, of speaking of marrying them. By that I mean having a sexual relationship with them, but he says, younger generations will not see it that way.)
After that I started sitting with her in church, which she liked. About a month or two later I was at her apartment and helped her with some redecorating. When we were done, she rested lying on the floor and made some moaning sounds, but I didn't do anything and moments later her estranged husband dropped by. After that, we had some sexy phone calls, but it sort of petered out. For a number of years we have kept periodic contact, mostly by phone.
A couple weeks ago we started talking more, and I had her over. On my loveseat, I felt her up and we cudddled. On several occasions since, we've had some sexual contact. I've fingered her, on more than one occasion. While showering together, she pushed my penis up against her vagina. However I haven't had an erection in years so we were not able to have penetrative sex. Eve didn't mind, and told me so. I will have to see a doctor.
Eve was concerned whether I'd sleep with other girls. I told her it was unlikely.
Eve indicated that she prefers I have no contact with other women, but I got her to back down a bit, so I'm allowed to maintain my platonic friendships with other women, but they have to know basically that Eve is queen.
The other day my sister had us over for dinner. My mentally handicapped nephew gave Eve a hug, which my sister says he doesn't usually do, so I think that's a big sign.
I have had Eve over almost every day (and she's not getting her own housework done, though she likes to help with mine). I just gave her a key to my condominium. She says, I think jokingly, that now she will be able to catch me if I have other girls over.
I've asked Eve to sleep over, more than once, but she expresses reluctance due to church rules. However, she also has suggested a different parking arrangement she can use when she's going to sleep over, which is a bit confusing. It's also confusing considering what we did in the shower.
My son has overheard some recent calls with Eve, and from that said that I seem pedestrian and way too agreeable. I don't think I'm that bad. He said I would probably come from a stronger "frame" if I had other girls I was having sex with.
He generally likes Eve but is concerned that still she might have me wrapped around her finger if I let us rush into commitment, especially he says without really having "abundance mentality" and being so long since I had sexual contact.
I can sort of see what he is saying about needing to play the field more, but I'm not sure if I'd go out to pick up strange girls randomly like he does. I do sometimes talk to strange girls incidentally, but I don't do it to hit on them.
I also am concerned because, at my age, I need a girl who will be there to help me when eventually I get helpless. It may help that Eve is a PSW.
I don't like girls my age (or fat girls).
Eve and I are in love with each other.
How do you guys think I should approach things, with Eve and in general?
I have a son who tells me that for many years he was clueless with girls but more recently has been learning "seduction" and has been able to get even a college girl half his age into bed on a casual basis.
I am in a new situation right now and he wanted to give advice but said that he is still just learning and also doesn't have "data points" relevant to my case. He suggested I talk to more experienced "seducers".
For background, I was married to his mother but had to separate 40+ years ago as she had major issues. Several years later I got with a girl way way younger than me, but troubled; we were together a few years & very sexual, but eventually she drifted away. I then had a brief affair with a married girl who wanted to leave her husband but abruptly disappeared completely (and 20 years later I was introduced to twins who wanted to meet their biological father). That affair was the last time I had penetrative sex, 35+ years ago.
A few years later I pursued a girl who worked in the same building as me, and started meeting and talking to her very regularly. She was my lady interest, and the only one, for 15+ years, but I was never able to interest her in sex. (My son says it was "oneitis" but also notes she seems celibate.) We are still fairly close friends, and my family has regarded her as my partner.
I have two other lady friends, who I have known for a number of years. I haven't slept with either. My son says they sucker me into doing them favors, buying them dinner, etc. I do enjoy their company, though.
About 15 years ago, I met a black lady, Eve, about 20 years my junior, in a church I was going to at the time. I basically just went up to her and talked to her, and told her she should leave her husband and marry me. (My son said this is a bad habit, when I am hitting on girls, of speaking of marrying them. By that I mean having a sexual relationship with them, but he says, younger generations will not see it that way.)
After that I started sitting with her in church, which she liked. About a month or two later I was at her apartment and helped her with some redecorating. When we were done, she rested lying on the floor and made some moaning sounds, but I didn't do anything and moments later her estranged husband dropped by. After that, we had some sexy phone calls, but it sort of petered out. For a number of years we have kept periodic contact, mostly by phone.
A couple weeks ago we started talking more, and I had her over. On my loveseat, I felt her up and we cudddled. On several occasions since, we've had some sexual contact. I've fingered her, on more than one occasion. While showering together, she pushed my penis up against her vagina. However I haven't had an erection in years so we were not able to have penetrative sex. Eve didn't mind, and told me so. I will have to see a doctor.
Eve was concerned whether I'd sleep with other girls. I told her it was unlikely.
Eve indicated that she prefers I have no contact with other women, but I got her to back down a bit, so I'm allowed to maintain my platonic friendships with other women, but they have to know basically that Eve is queen.
The other day my sister had us over for dinner. My mentally handicapped nephew gave Eve a hug, which my sister says he doesn't usually do, so I think that's a big sign.
I have had Eve over almost every day (and she's not getting her own housework done, though she likes to help with mine). I just gave her a key to my condominium. She says, I think jokingly, that now she will be able to catch me if I have other girls over.
I've asked Eve to sleep over, more than once, but she expresses reluctance due to church rules. However, she also has suggested a different parking arrangement she can use when she's going to sleep over, which is a bit confusing. It's also confusing considering what we did in the shower.
My son has overheard some recent calls with Eve, and from that said that I seem pedestrian and way too agreeable. I don't think I'm that bad. He said I would probably come from a stronger "frame" if I had other girls I was having sex with.
He generally likes Eve but is concerned that still she might have me wrapped around her finger if I let us rush into commitment, especially he says without really having "abundance mentality" and being so long since I had sexual contact.
I can sort of see what he is saying about needing to play the field more, but I'm not sure if I'd go out to pick up strange girls randomly like he does. I do sometimes talk to strange girls incidentally, but I don't do it to hit on them.
I also am concerned because, at my age, I need a girl who will be there to help me when eventually I get helpless. It may help that Eve is a PSW.
I don't like girls my age (or fat girls).
Eve and I are in love with each other.
How do you guys think I should approach things, with Eve and in general?
