Opening - is there a middle ground

[greenleaf]

If you're curious about this I used to be a regular part of the RooshV community and have met about a dozen members

The membership can be sorted into 3 categories

1. Coping ugly ethnics who get nothing
2. Coping sub6 crackers who chase ugly Asian girls and fatties
3. A small sliver of legit 7+ guys who clean up on online dating

If you read through the "Just Got Laid" thread you will see that a quarter to a half of all lays are reported as Asian

Yeah, I noticed some patterns myself. As you say, it was mostly people chasing Asian fatties/tourist game. The thing is, they wanted a pat on the back for this and their 'game' and would brag, but they must have felt stupid when loads of incel types (with literally ZERO game. like autistic etc) started doing the same thing and uploading their sexual adventures on youtube! (you seen them channels lol?? Maybe unlisted. I'm not sure)

The other pattern was guys who were just very good looking, banging girls on tinder. Again, i'm not sure where i stand on that sort of thing when it comes to 'game'.

I mean, without going off track, one of my friends has VERY limited game, but he's been blessed with exceptional good looks. Actual 'head turner'. And despite his lack of 'game' (I mean. He's not remotely weird. He's normal. But he doesn't do LOTS of the stuff PUA's do and in script form, his game would read terribly) I'd put him up against ANY PUA i've ever come across lol. I've been out with him so many times and seen some crazy shit and how girls react to him like he's a celeb, that I don't think anyone could match him.

 

[greenleaf]

Got laid last night. Was only using self amusement openers (testing a few). Didn't get any luck. Maybe partly it was too early in the night and the girls weren't drunk (social enough). I've noticed that my liklihood to 'hook' changes a fair bit based on time of the night here. Could have also just been very uninterested girls. (one particular set was these 2 ridiculously hot blonde girls. Very young.) There was also a gorgeous bargirl working there but really didn't know where to start with that sort of approach, tbh!

Anyway, the group I was with got talking to some Swiss girl so I didn't even really need to 'open' as such. Kind of just fell into convo. We started chatting and I could tell fairly fast that I had a decent shot. By herself on NYE visiting from another country and was very receptive in general. I introduced some sex talk at some point. We started making out as most of my group left after midnight. I invited myself to her place (hotel) a few times (she kind of semi rejected the idea first time, but bought her another drink, made out more and tried again lol). I wish I could remember more about the set tbh. Even though it was likely a strong 'yes girl' (very rare for me) I think I done some good stuff but I wish I could remember what lol. She likely made it easy for me, but I still love having more point of references for each part of an interaction (like 'exactly how/when did I start flirting', 'what did I even talk about to be able to talk for hours!', 'how did the first makeout actually 'happen' '', etc etc!. My memory is dog shit)