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I would like to talk about a specific phenomenon in game which doesn't seem to be that commonly discussed.
Passive seduction
What do I mean by passive seduction?
I'm talking about a situation when:
- a girl approaches you
- a girl is more active during the conversation than you are
- a girl is offering you to share her drink with you
- a girl is physically escalating on you
- a girl is trying to pull you home
In other words, it seems like SHE IS TRYING TO PICK YOU UP.
Is this any different than chase frame? I tend to believe so. Because it seems to be much less verbal, going slow not going fast is a mantra, and there seems to be no need for active strive for comfort and rapport.
In the recent months this has happened a lot to me. When I go to a club I get approached at least few times, every night. I get approached in a line, I get approached in a smoking area, next to a bar, I get invited to a dance. I also get reapproached. I had this situation that a girl which I spoke few times over the night, when she saw me I was about to leave the club alone, she grabbed my hand and started to pull me in the direction she chose.
What usually allows me to find myself in these situations are the following:
- not giving attention to women, not looking at women, especially in a direct, confrontational way, staring in the background instead, relaxing in a stationary position, light smile to no one (self-satisfaction kind of smile)
- talking very little, instead of talking just listening (NOT looking at her while listening), not replying immediately, instead taking time to think and carefully consider my answer, be very thrifty in words (one word, once sentence answers, not trying to redirect the conversation)
- being unreactive with my body language
- NOT being interested in her, not asking questions about her or giving her praise, simply giving my position on what she is saying in the moment
- NEVER EVER trying to pick her up in an active, kind of traditional sense
- being very sparing with my emotional expression (slight smile, subtle nods), not much besides this
- being stationary and relaxed (consciously relaxing my body almost immediately makes her active, she is trying to get closer either verbally or physically)
- instead of approaching her, the way to start the interaction I would just position myself nearby, stand, don't pay attention to her, and just wait
- generating attraction and arousal is based on: body language, subconscious communication, natural sexual attraction between sexes (as described by Christ Sixty)
- patience is critical, waiting seems to be doing in this type of game
PRINCIPLES
Less is more - this seems to be the core mechanism. The less I do, the more she does. The slower I progress the interaction, the more she tries to progress it. The less attention I give to her, the more attention I get from her.
Tension seems critical. Maintaining tension keeps her around, break tension and she leaves.
Sexual tension is created automatically through body language, silence, non-reactiveness.
TEXT GAME
In text game what brings the most progress is: not replying to her texts, never mentioning anything sexual (in other words not trying to sexualize the conversation).
PSYCHOLOGY BEHIND
I realized that this type of game/behavior boosts respect immediately in the eyes of other people (now only women)
This type of game also makes her submit, become submissive.
ANTI-PATTERNS
Talking seems to be the biggest anti-pattern here. Once I start talking, it all falls apart. Never ever a gambit worked for me. Generally speaking, verbal sexualization doesn't work. I seem to generate all sexual tension in her energetically (and physically in later stages).
Generally anything that suggests that I'm interested in her, breaks things down.
Apologizing, trying to be nice, trying to fix my "mistake" after I see from her reaction that she didn't like something. This is another anti-pattern.
This type of game has been the most interesting type of game for me. However, I have never achieved a full success just focusing on this type of game. I can see that it works in different stages in seduction. It works in a way that it generates interest, gives her space to be active, and puts her in the chase frame. In my succesful seductions, I always incorporated elements of this strategy but I never succeeded based solely on this approach.
IN BED
This also works in bed. Let's say that we are in a private location. If I get active, I will get resistance, if I just sit, relax and look away, she starts pulling herself closer and touch me. When I verbally ask for a blowjob, I won't get it. When I sit, smile and look and think I would like her to kneel in front of me, she will do it. When she is on top of me, fucking, the best way to make here orgasm, the best thing to do is relax my body, and let her jump until she orgasms.
I'm interested to master this approach and would be great to hear from guys who know what I'm talking about.
What can I do to make this strategy better and more consistent?
Passive seduction
What do I mean by passive seduction?
I'm talking about a situation when:
- a girl approaches you
- a girl is more active during the conversation than you are
- a girl is offering you to share her drink with you
- a girl is physically escalating on you
- a girl is trying to pull you home
In other words, it seems like SHE IS TRYING TO PICK YOU UP.
Is this any different than chase frame? I tend to believe so. Because it seems to be much less verbal, going slow not going fast is a mantra, and there seems to be no need for active strive for comfort and rapport.
In the recent months this has happened a lot to me. When I go to a club I get approached at least few times, every night. I get approached in a line, I get approached in a smoking area, next to a bar, I get invited to a dance. I also get reapproached. I had this situation that a girl which I spoke few times over the night, when she saw me I was about to leave the club alone, she grabbed my hand and started to pull me in the direction she chose.
What usually allows me to find myself in these situations are the following:
- not giving attention to women, not looking at women, especially in a direct, confrontational way, staring in the background instead, relaxing in a stationary position, light smile to no one (self-satisfaction kind of smile)
- talking very little, instead of talking just listening (NOT looking at her while listening), not replying immediately, instead taking time to think and carefully consider my answer, be very thrifty in words (one word, once sentence answers, not trying to redirect the conversation)
- being unreactive with my body language
- NOT being interested in her, not asking questions about her or giving her praise, simply giving my position on what she is saying in the moment
- NEVER EVER trying to pick her up in an active, kind of traditional sense
- being very sparing with my emotional expression (slight smile, subtle nods), not much besides this
- being stationary and relaxed (consciously relaxing my body almost immediately makes her active, she is trying to get closer either verbally or physically)
- instead of approaching her, the way to start the interaction I would just position myself nearby, stand, don't pay attention to her, and just wait
- generating attraction and arousal is based on: body language, subconscious communication, natural sexual attraction between sexes (as described by Christ Sixty)
- patience is critical, waiting seems to be doing in this type of game
PRINCIPLES
Less is more - this seems to be the core mechanism. The less I do, the more she does. The slower I progress the interaction, the more she tries to progress it. The less attention I give to her, the more attention I get from her.
Tension seems critical. Maintaining tension keeps her around, break tension and she leaves.
Sexual tension is created automatically through body language, silence, non-reactiveness.
TEXT GAME
In text game what brings the most progress is: not replying to her texts, never mentioning anything sexual (in other words not trying to sexualize the conversation).
PSYCHOLOGY BEHIND
I realized that this type of game/behavior boosts respect immediately in the eyes of other people (now only women)
This type of game also makes her submit, become submissive.
ANTI-PATTERNS
Talking seems to be the biggest anti-pattern here. Once I start talking, it all falls apart. Never ever a gambit worked for me. Generally speaking, verbal sexualization doesn't work. I seem to generate all sexual tension in her energetically (and physically in later stages).
Generally anything that suggests that I'm interested in her, breaks things down.
Apologizing, trying to be nice, trying to fix my "mistake" after I see from her reaction that she didn't like something. This is another anti-pattern.
This type of game has been the most interesting type of game for me. However, I have never achieved a full success just focusing on this type of game. I can see that it works in different stages in seduction. It works in a way that it generates interest, gives her space to be active, and puts her in the chase frame. In my succesful seductions, I always incorporated elements of this strategy but I never succeeded based solely on this approach.
IN BED
This also works in bed. Let's say that we are in a private location. If I get active, I will get resistance, if I just sit, relax and look away, she starts pulling herself closer and touch me. When I verbally ask for a blowjob, I won't get it. When I sit, smile and look and think I would like her to kneel in front of me, she will do it. When she is on top of me, fucking, the best way to make here orgasm, the best thing to do is relax my body, and let her jump until she orgasms.
I'm interested to master this approach and would be great to hear from guys who know what I'm talking about.
What can I do to make this strategy better and more consistent?
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